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California votes against 'kill switch' legislation for smartphones

By Shawn Knight ยท 8 replies
Apr 24, 2014
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  1. In what can only be seen as a victory for wireless carriers, law makers in California on Thursday shot down a bill that would have required smartphone manufacturers to include a kill switch on new devices sold in the state.

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  2. OneSpeed

    OneSpeed TS Evangelist Posts: 312   +125

    Now let's see. Which company in California would benefit greatly from this...? I wonder...
  3. KG363

    KG363 TS Guru Posts: 523   +15

    California voted to NOT expand government power?!? I guess I should check the sky for some pigs.
  4. "In what can only be seen as a victory for wireless carriers"
    How about a victory for freedom.
    The freedom to buy a phone without a kill switch.
    The freedom to have my phone/personal assistant/navigation/notebook/camera/voice recorder that can't be remotely killed by a company, government or hackers.
    p51d007 and DjKraid like this.
  5. Rippleman

    Rippleman TS Evangelist Posts: 871   +393

    for those that don't know... apple made a kill switch built into all ios7+ devices... any device with ios7+ stolen with someone icloud info in it becomes a brick.. and there is no way around it... The device serial number is tied to the apple ID on apple servers. upon activation after a device wipe, or even a whole IOS version replacement, it will simply ask for the apple id. Don't have the ID? too bad... bricked device... UNLESS you can prove with original purchase receipt.
  6. gamoniac

    gamoniac TS Evangelist Posts: 358   +102

    People seem to have forgotten how easily Matt Honan's (Wired journalist) iPhone got hijacked and remotely wiped out, losing all his data and worst of all, have access to all his contacts' phone, email, etc. There is no 100% security. (See http://www.wired.com/2012/08/apple-amazon-mat-honan-hacking/ )

    So I think the lawmakers made the right choice. Features like this should be left up to individual phone manufacturers and carriers. If there is enough demands (consumers vote with wallets), they would provide the feature.
  7. p51d007

    p51d007 TS Evangelist Posts: 1,965   +1,230

    I'd never buy a device with a "kill switch" for several reasons.
    #1, I would not have 100% absolute control over the "kill" part of the switch!
    If it can be killed by the carrier, a hacker, the NSA or other alphabet labeled
    group from the government, I wouldn't want it. I know what will happen though.
    Some group, state, phone device manufacturer will allow this, and in a few months,
    it will be said that this is a win for the consumer, look how safe you are bla bla bla.
    Then, after a few more devices get it, then it will become mandatory. Now, you have
    control of the device, given to the carriers/government. You think if there is ever a
    public uprising, they won't flip the switch? Those who give up freedom, in the name of
    security, deserve NEITHER!
  8. Totally agreed!
    p51d007 likes this.
  9. treetops

    treetops TS Evangelist Posts: 2,563   +550

    If used as intended this is a great idea.

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