Can't Install Windows XP think its MBR or RAM failure?
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Ok guys i just installed a new dvd drive into the desktop which is set up in the BIOS all fine. I have cleaned the XP cd, not a scratch on it and am still getting the NTDLR message!!!
the dvd drive definately works as i am running memtest86 again and so far still no errors so what the hell could be wrong?
a mate of mine at work said something about swapping over the pins near the motherboard battery to reset the BIOS, what do you guys think???
the dvd drive definately works as i am running memtest86 again and so far still no errors so what the hell could be wrong?
a mate of mine at work said something about swapping over the pins near the motherboard battery to reset the BIOS, what do you guys think???
superty12
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Bobbye
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Sam, see if this helps: Go from this part:
Make a NTLDR boot disk to get back into Windows.
The quick test to make sure your OS installation is still good is to create an MBR and NTLDR on a floppy disk and check if you can just boot back up into your system, this disk will check many of the partitions for a working windows installation. Here are the instructions to do this:
http://www.tinyempire.com/notes/ntldrismissing.htm
Make a NTLDR boot disk to get back into Windows.
The quick test to make sure your OS installation is still good is to create an MBR and NTLDR on a floppy disk and check if you can just boot back up into your system, this disk will check many of the partitions for a working windows installation. Here are the instructions to do this:
http://www.tinyempire.com/notes/ntldrismissing.htm
gbhall
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I only know one way to get the message you give. Which is to attempt to boot off a HDD with any one of many faults which cause NTLDR and/or boot.ini to be missing or damaged.
There is NO way to get that message if you are booting off a CD
Ergo, you are NOT booting off the install CD. As far as I am aware, you HAVE set the DVD drive as 1st boot, and you have a new DVD drive too. Does the DVD drive light when you boot with the CD in the drive? I asked this already.
Some bios have two channels IDE and SATA. It is important to get the channel order right as well as the boot order (on that channel). Check that. I gather you have a floppy drive. You could download a Dos system e.g. http://www.optimizingpc.com/install/bootdisk.html and having booted that, have a look at what the install CD looks like (it will be drive D
. If it can read the CD ok, then we will think again. If it cannot, well.....weird but we are making progress.
As to resetting the bios, yes definitely worth a try. You just short two jumpers for 15 seconds, or failing to know which jumpers, just take the battery out for 10 minutes and put it back. You will then be in an absolute basic bios setup with a date/time years ago. Correct that, but my advice is not to touch the boot order yet, as by default it will have CD first already.
There is NO way to get that message if you are booting off a CD
Ergo, you are NOT booting off the install CD. As far as I am aware, you HAVE set the DVD drive as 1st boot, and you have a new DVD drive too. Does the DVD drive light when you boot with the CD in the drive? I asked this already.
Some bios have two channels IDE and SATA. It is important to get the channel order right as well as the boot order (on that channel). Check that. I gather you have a floppy drive. You could download a Dos system e.g. http://www.optimizingpc.com/install/bootdisk.html and having booted that, have a look at what the install CD looks like (it will be drive D
. If it can read the CD ok, then we will think again. If it cannot, well.....weird but we are making progress.As to resetting the bios, yes definitely worth a try. You just short two jumpers for 15 seconds, or failing to know which jumpers, just take the battery out for 10 minutes and put it back. You will then be in an absolute basic bios setup with a date/time years ago. Correct that, but my advice is not to touch the boot order yet, as by default it will have CD first already.
Well guys I have finally fixed it!!!
I was going through mu cds and found a boot cd that i bought off ebay ages ago, i put it in and booted from cd and it loaded its kind of a windows interface called windows pe and it has loads of tools and utilities that does all kinds of things. anyway found an MBR fixer on there, did the business, shut it down xp cd in, reboot and install and voila!!!!
this cd really is goo, i highly recoomend it.
thanks for all your help i wouldn't have got this far without your help, never thought i would have had to take out one of the old RAMs and use memtest86 to big thanks you!!
right to my next issue. now the pc is up and running i want to set up a NAS i bought off ebay, it's a...
Envizage present this Brand new external USB and 10/100 network attached (NAS) 500GB hard drive unit. The drive is USB2 but also supports USB1 and comes pre-formatted and is ready for immediate use. Just plug in, turn on and you're done - these really are that simple to use! Network set up is also easy with its own web based management application. Supports both Static IP and DHCP address allocation.
Just connect to your router or wireless router and share files instantly on your network. Alternatively, connect the USB port to a PC and use solely on one machine.
If you are unsure about setting up the drive on your network, call us and we can guide you through step by step.
Features:
* Provides an instant share of photos, videos, music and data over your network using the built-in Network Attached Storage(NAS).
* Easy configuration using the web based management application - no software required.
* Built-in Samba server- for cross platform transfer amongst different operating systems
* Built-in NFS server- for native Linux platform.
* Built-in FTP server to provide data transfer over the internet.
* Easy installation, support cost is low, suitable for home or office networks.
* Can be used as a standard USB2.0 device also.
* USB Host enables transfer of files from USB devices such as memory / flash drives.
Specification:
* File Systems Supported: FAT32, NTFS, EXT3.
* Supports USB2 and USB1.
* USB Host Port.
* Language support for English, Arabic, Greek, Hebrew, Thai, Russian, Chinese.
But i cannot get past the first stage where you have to go to http://NAS it won't work. i read somewhere it might because i am using a sky wireless modem, sky provide my broadband. i do have a spare netgear wireless router.
any ideas on how i can set all this up???
I was going through mu cds and found a boot cd that i bought off ebay ages ago, i put it in and booted from cd and it loaded its kind of a windows interface called windows pe and it has loads of tools and utilities that does all kinds of things. anyway found an MBR fixer on there, did the business, shut it down xp cd in, reboot and install and voila!!!!
this cd really is goo, i highly recoomend it.
thanks for all your help i wouldn't have got this far without your help, never thought i would have had to take out one of the old RAMs and use memtest86 to big thanks you!!
right to my next issue. now the pc is up and running i want to set up a NAS i bought off ebay, it's a...
Envizage present this Brand new external USB and 10/100 network attached (NAS) 500GB hard drive unit. The drive is USB2 but also supports USB1 and comes pre-formatted and is ready for immediate use. Just plug in, turn on and you're done - these really are that simple to use! Network set up is also easy with its own web based management application. Supports both Static IP and DHCP address allocation.
Just connect to your router or wireless router and share files instantly on your network. Alternatively, connect the USB port to a PC and use solely on one machine.
If you are unsure about setting up the drive on your network, call us and we can guide you through step by step.
Features:
* Provides an instant share of photos, videos, music and data over your network using the built-in Network Attached Storage(NAS).
* Easy configuration using the web based management application - no software required.
* Built-in Samba server- for cross platform transfer amongst different operating systems
* Built-in NFS server- for native Linux platform.
* Built-in FTP server to provide data transfer over the internet.
* Easy installation, support cost is low, suitable for home or office networks.
* Can be used as a standard USB2.0 device also.
* USB Host enables transfer of files from USB devices such as memory / flash drives.
Specification:
* File Systems Supported: FAT32, NTFS, EXT3.
* Supports USB2 and USB1.
* USB Host Port.
* Language support for English, Arabic, Greek, Hebrew, Thai, Russian, Chinese.
But i cannot get past the first stage where you have to go to http://NAS it won't work. i read somewhere it might because i am using a sky wireless modem, sky provide my broadband. i do have a spare netgear wireless router.
any ideas on how i can set all this up???
superty12
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Glad to hear it! What in the world was wrong with that XP CD? The MBR wouldn't have done it.
Glad to hear it! What in the world was wrong with that XP CD? The MBR wouldn't have done it.
Well thats the thing xp disc wasn't working even when i pressed key to boot and set up to boot from cd first still was getting the NTLDR is missing message so booted from the boot cd, which isn't one i made from xp it's one someone has created and incorporated loads of programmes made to solve all kinds of problems i.e my MBR problem it seems!
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