Core i7 vs. Ryzen 5 with Vega 64 & GTX 1080

[JoshH]

If they are comparing price ranges, then I don't understand why they used the Ryzen 1600 and not the 1700x. The 1700x is about the same price as the 7700k, so they picked the weakest Ryzen to go against one of the best i7's. It seems they over clocked the i7 by .7ghz but only overclock the Ryzen by .4ghz (when the ryzen has more room for OC). I love to see reviews like this, but not a fan when it seems to be basis.

 

[Steve]

If they are comparing price ranges, then I don't understand why they used the Ryzen 1600 and not the 1700x. The 1700x is about the same price as the 7700k, so they picked the weakest Ryzen to go against one of the best i7's. It seems they over clocked the i7 by .7ghz but only overclock the Ryzen by .4ghz (when the ryzen has more room for OC). I love to see reviews like this, but not a fan when it seems to be basis.

You do realize in all of these games the R7 1700 and R5 1600 deliver the same results @ 4 GHz? This is a best case showing for Ryzen in terms of price vs performance. It only seems 'biased' because you don't understand that these games don't utilize 8-cores/16-threads. Anyway the idea was more to see how the different hardware combinations interact, not start an AMD vs. Intel fanboy war.

 

[JoshH]

You do realize in all of these games the R7 1700 and R5 1600 deliver the same results @ 4 GHz? This is a best case showing for Ryzen in terms of price vs performance. It only seems 'biased' because you don't understand that these games don't utilize 8-cores/16-threads. Anyway the idea was more to see how the different hardware combinations interact, not start an AMD vs. Intel fanboy war.

Yea, you are correct. I failed to look at it as a straight benchmark, and was considering all the multitasking. Btw, I thought PubG patched to support 6+ core support. It doesn't look that way from the benchmark though LoL.

 

[mrjgriffin]

Ok so I'm confused.....why would you put intels best gaming processor vs amds lower tier processor instead of the ryzen 7 1800x? why?

 

[dirtyferret]

If they are comparing price ranges, then I don't understand why they used the Ryzen 1600 and not the 1700x. The 1700x is about the same price as the 7700k, so they picked the weakest Ryzen to go against one of the best i7's. It seems they over clocked the i7 by .7ghz but only overclock the Ryzen by .4ghz (when the ryzen has more room for OC). I love to see reviews like this, but not a fan when it seems to be basis.

You do realize in all of these games the R7 1700 and R5 1600 deliver the same results @ 4 GHz? This is a best case showing for Ryzen in terms of price vs performance. It only seems 'biased' because you don't understand that these games don't utilize 8-cores/16-threads. Anyway the idea was more to see how the different hardware combinations interact, not start an AMD vs. Intel fanboy war.

Yes but in your 1600x review you already showed the chip losing to an Intel 7600k in all games but ashes at stock speeds for both chips. A better test would be to include the 7600k at OC to further show the 1600 falling behind so we could read all the AMD fan boys having toddler like hissy fits...

 

[total]

Hopefully in the next big review it will be F1 2017 instead of F1 2016.

 

[msroadkill612]

"Excel kills me a little more inside each time"

 

[msroadkill612]

The review seems flawed. As a consumer, I'd rather you compare similar price points than hardware equivalencies. For the price of 64 liquid cooled, it's possible to get a 1080ti. The 7700 costs ore than double that of a 1400. If the focus wasn't the hardware, than the title is wrong.

A hobby horse of mine too. Reviewers assume we all have a masters in intels byzantine sku list.

How hard is it to occasionally tack a ~$us xxx adjacent the product occasionally in charts etc.

I often I find myself investing time in a product, which is later revealed as way too dear for consideration.

a general gripe. love u work steve.

 

[msroadkill612]

Elephant in room alert.

Afaik, the 7700 has 16 lanes and an impressive list of alleged HB ports, all connected to a lame 4 lane/ 4GB/s chipset.

If so, imo, its not even salable, let alone worthy of consideration as an ongoing platform.

imo also, there is a raid nvme array in keen gamer's future (and each nvme eats 4 lanes). They just dont know it yet.

Ryzen wont manage nvme raid, unless u go 8 lane video to free up 8 lanes (not a bad idea for many), but its a sweet spot where u can get native onboard the mobo; a fast half speed single nvme (an nvme using 4 backwardly compatible slower pcie2 lanes), and a very fast full speed single nvme as well as multiple sata ssdS on the shared 4 lane bandwidth chipset.

If I am right about nvme raid as an asset to gaming, u need a $550us+ 64 lane TR, or a 44 lane $1000us+ I9 intel. Some intels have 28 lanes. Dunno the details.

NB that TR has; free, bootable, bios raid, and often, 3x reputable onboard nvme ports, so they throw in some expensive and powerful kit free with the TR premium. A highpoint 16 lane 4x nvme m.2 prt card is $400us e.g.

windows non bootable soft raid seems well regarded, but dunno the issues.

TR Quad channel memory sounds good too.

I bet $50 samsung's next model ssd, will saturate the 4GB/s nvme pcie link, so our included "free" 3x array as above, could approach 12GB/s. Its a new paradigm. Storage nearly as fast as ram.

 

[darkzelda]

I'm certain about something, my next set up is going to be Ryzen.

 

[msroadkill612]

The review seems flawed. As a consumer, I'd rather you compare similar price points than hardware equivalencies. For the price of 64 liquid cooled, it's possible to get a 1080ti. The 7700 costs ore than double that of a 1400. If the focus wasn't the hardware, than the title is wrong.

Normally I would have some sympathy for your view, but prices/availability are to all intents, unknowns given the current flux in the gpu & ram market.

 

[Forebode]

Normally I would have some sympathy for your view, but prices/availability are to all intents, unknowns given the current flux in the gpu & ram market.

unknown how?, you can buy them at the time of the article. Post both prices in the article, what it should be sold for (the original list) and what it's currently averaging (memory and mining influenced).