Coronavirus response goes mainstream, no longer just about cancelled tech conferences

Anyone can get this. China has 550 cases in the 10-19 age range.
Much more dangerous in the over 60 range but can happen to anyone though.

Italy has the oldest population in Europe and has had massive cuts to healthcare in recent years. THIS is the issue.
Agreed. And remember you said this because your buddy the giant Orange is working on sweeping healthcare cuts as we speak.
 
Might wanna check out this article.

I already read that. Nearly 2% under 19. Anyone can get it.
"Less than 1% were under nine years old, while those aged between 10 and 19 accounted for just over 1%".

My buddy the giant orange? I'm pretty anti-Trump and support socialised healthcare...
Oh, then apologies. It didn't sound that way. Sorry.
 

mattferg

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I already read that. Nearly 2% under 19. Anyone can get it.
"Less than 1% were under nine years old, while those aged between 10 and 19 accounted for just over 1%".



Oh, then apologies. It didn't sound that way. Sorry.
2% get infected. Not a single critical case in Italy is a child. Sure, anyone can get the virus, but of that 2% not a single one of them was critical or at any significant risk.

I literally called the other guy a Trumpist... assuming since you missed this and didn't read the article thoroughly (missing the bits where it said it basically doesn't affect children) reading comprehension isn't your strong suit?

This virus is an issue because of the infection rate, NOT the fatality rate. Comparing this to MERS/SARS/Ebola etc this doesn't even come close.
 
2% get infected. Not a single critical case in Italy is a child. Sure, anyone can get the virus, but of that 2% not a single one of them was critical or at any significant risk.

I literally called the other guy a Trumpist... assuming since you missed this and didn't read the article thoroughly (missing the bits where it said it basically doesn't affect children) reading comprehension isn't your strong suit?

This virus is an issue because of the infection rate, NOT the fatality rate. Comparing this to MERS/SARS/Ebola etc this doesn't even come close.
My reading is fine. I told you I read it wrong and apologized. For God's sake grow the hell up and act like an adult. Probably for the first time.

Now, there were a little over 10000 cases of Mers and Sars. Total.
Were are already pushing 128000 cases of covid 19 after only months.
That many cases so fast make your infection rate argument laughable. And I am laughing.
 

Puiu

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Italy has the oldest population in Europe and has had massive cuts to healthcare in recent years. THIS is the issue.
Let's not beat around the bush. Arrogance was the main culprit, not the healthcare cuts. Authorities ignoring the early warnings, the citizens ignoring the quarantine and isolation epidemic rules... all of them created a breeding ground for the virus and unfortunately it seems like it might happen in Romania soon too (the number of cases are growing exponentially every day).
 
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pcnthuziast

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INTERMISSION

Compliments of the United States Government, always bolstering it's citizens interests. The CDC can't help your weak WiFI, but they do have this (lengthy) pro-active prescription - that proposes to go a long way in helping insure the health and viability of the few who diligently follow..

RAD!! Read on for some Covid-19 anti-infect measures, and more.

During an outbreak in your community, protect yourself and others by:

Staying home from work, school, and all activities when you are https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/symptoms.html sick with COVID-19 symptoms, which may include fever, cough, and difficulty breathing.
Keeping away from others who are sick.
Limiting close contact with others as much as possible (about 6 feet).

Put your household plan into action

Stay informed about the local COVID-19 situation.
Get up-to-date information about local COVID-19 activity from https://www.naccho.org/membership/lhd-directory public health officials. Be aware of temporary school dismissals in your area, as this may affect your household’s daily routine.

Stay home if you are sick.

Stay home if you have https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/symptoms.html COVID-19 symptoms. If a member of your household is sick, stay home from school and work to avoid spreading COVID-19 to others.

If your children are in the care of others, urge caregivers to watch for COVID-19 symptoms.

Continue practicing everyday preventive actions.
Cover coughs and sneezes with a tissue and wash your hands often with soap and water for at least 20 seconds. If soap and water are not available, use a hand sanitizer that contains 60% alcohol. Clean frequently touched surfaces and objects daily using a regular household detergent and water.

Use the separate room and bathroom you prepared for sick household members (if possible). https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/guidance-prevent-spread.html Learn how to care for someone with COVID-19 at home.

Avoid sharing personal items like food and drinks. Provide your sick household member with clean disposable facemasks to wear at home, if available, to help prevent spreading COVID-19 to others. Clean the sick room and bathroom, as needed, to avoid unnecessary contact with the sick person.

If surfaces are dirty, they should be cleaned using a detergent and water prior to disinfection. For disinfection, a list of products with EPA-approved emerging viral pathogens claims, maintained by the CBC, is available at https://www.americanchemistry.com/Novel-Coronavirus-Fighting-Products-List.pdf
Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19) Fighting Products.

Always follow the manufacturer’s instructions for all cleaning and disinfection products.
Stay in touch with others by phone or email. If you live alone and become sick during a COVID-19 outbreak, you may need help. If you have a chronic medical condition and live alone, ask family, friends, and health care providers to check on you during an outbreak. Stay in touch with family and friends with chronic medical conditions.

Take care of the emotional health of your household members.

Outbreaks can be stressful for adults and children. https://www.cdc.gov/childrenindisasters/helping-children-cope.html
Children respond differently to stressful situations than adults. Talk with your children about the outbreak, try to stay calm, and reassure them that they are safe.

Inform your workplace if you need to change your regular work schedule.

Notify your workplace as soon as possible if your schedule changes.
Ask to work from home or take leave if you or someone in your household gets sick with ttps://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/symptoms.html
COVID-19 symptoms, or if your child’s school is dismissed temporarily.

Take the following steps to help protect your children during an outbreak.
If your child/children become sick with COVID-19, notify their childcare facility or school. Talk with teachers about classroom assignments and activities they can do from home to keep up with their schoolwork.

Keep track of school dismissals in your community.
Read or watch local media sources that report school dismissals. If schools are dismissed temporarily, use alternative childcare arrangements, if needed.

Discourage children and teens from gathering in other public places while school is dismissed to help slow the spread of COVID-19 in the community.

After a COVID-19 outbreak has ended in your community: Follow Up

Remember, a COVID-19 outbreak could last a long time.
The impact on individuals, households, and communities might be great. When public health officials determine the outbreak has ended in your community, take time to improve your household’s plan. As public health officials continue to plan for COVID-19 and other disease outbreaks, you and your household also have an important role to play in ongoing planning efforts.

Evaluate the effectiveness of your household’s plan of action.

Discuss and note lessons learned.

Were your COVID-19 preparedness actions effective at home, school, and work? Talk about problems found in your plan and effective solutions. Identify additional resources needed for you and your household.

Participate in community discussions about emergency planning.
Let others know about what readiness actions worked for you and your household. Maintain communication lines with your community (e.g., social media and email lists). Promote the importance of practicing good personal health habits.

Continue to practice everyday preventive actions.
Stay home when you are sick; cover your coughs and sneezes with a tissue; wash your hands often with soap and water; and clean frequently touched surfaces and objects daily.

Take care of the emotional health of your household members.
Make time to unwind and remind yourself that strong feelings will fade. Take breaks from watching, reading, or listening to news stories about COVID-19. Connect with family and friends. Share your concerns and how you are feeling with others.

Help your child/children cope after the outbreak. https://www.cdc.gov/childrenindisasters/helping-children-cope.html
Provide children with opportunities to talk about what they went through or what they think about it. Encourage them to share concerns and ask questions. Because parents, teachers, and other adults see children in different situations, it is important for them to work together to share information about how each child is coping after the outbreak.

Thank you!
 
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Well "agenda propaganda video" is one way to put it. For a certain segment of America, I guess.

Would you say that about this video? From the Washington Post:
Tuned out at 5 seconds. Fox Liars Agenda is something everyone can ignore. They don't care about ANYONES health and well being, they care about RATINGS for these insane rants. :spit:
 
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Tuned out at 5 seconds. Fox Liars Agenda is something everyone can ignore. They don't care about ANYONES health and well being, they care about RATINGS for these insane rants. :spit:
I will say without hesitation that in my opinion, those people in their first comments should have to pay for what they were doing earlier. Jail, fines whatever.

We are facing a global pandemic and those fools were encouraging people to go on as usual and believe nothing they hear unless it comes from the giant peach or from themselves at fox.

How many people are carriers, sick, dying or dead, because they were infected by the common ignorant fox news zombie who believed everything was just fine.

Fox news has been a source of comedy for years. But now they are complacent in the infections and deaths of who knows how many right now and in the future.
 
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During epidemics such as the Coronavirus, it should be mandatory for people with infection to wear identifiable bands or ribbons. Anyone testing positive should be fined for not displaying their infectious condition.
 

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Would you say that about this video? From the Washington Post:
I don't waste time with Fox News, CNN, pretty much most of the major networks. They all have their agendas to some degree, endeavor in spin-doctoring and are not worth watching. They make money entertaining people, little more. Most of the press and media no longer care about journalistic integrity. And then there are video's like the drivel above that are created only to strike at peoples feelings and entangle them with semi-lucid nonsense.

This outbreak is less a virus problem and more a stark reminder of how advanced we think we are but actually are not, how easily panicked we are and how swiftly those in power will make power grabs. It's sad and pathetic.

This virus is too widespread to stop. It will continue to spread at this point regardless of actions to isolate people or regions. It's entirely too late for that kind of thinking to be effective. The virus incubation period is between 3 weeks and 2 months generally. Most people have it already and just don't know it yet.

Is it going to kill us all? No. Some will die. Most will live and have a strong resistance or immunity to the virus. The world is not coming to an end due to this virus, it has come to chaos because of panic and people not taking their heads out of their backsides long enough to see the forest for the trees.
 
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ZedRM

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During epidemics such as the Coronavirus, it should be mandatory for people with infection to wear identifiable bands or ribbons.
Why? So they can be more easily targeted by hooligans acting like thugs? There have been a lot of medical professionals being harassed, beaten and hospitalized because they are only suspected of having the virus. Yes, let's tag everyone and make them wear a great ruddy bullseye on their heads, yes let's do that..
 
I don't waste time with Fox News, CNN, pretty much most of the major networks. They all have their agendas to some degree, endeavor in spin-doctoring and are not worth watching. They make money entertaining people, little more. Most of the press and media no longer care about journalistic integrity. And then there are video's like the drivel above that are created only to strike at peoples feelings and entangle them with semi-lucid nonsense.

This outbreak is less a virus problem and more a stark reminder of how advanced we think we are but actually are not, how easily panicked we are and how swiftly those in power will make power grabs. It's sad and pathetic.

This virus is to widespread to stop. It will continue to spread at this point regardless of actions to isolate people or regions. It's entirely too late for that kind of thinking to be effective. The virus incubation period is between 3 weeks and 2 months generally. Most people have it already and just don't know it yet.

Is it going to kill us all? No. Some will die. Most will live and have a strong resistance or immunity to the virus. The world is not coming to an end due to this virus, it has come to chaos because of panic and people not taking their heads out of their backsides long enough to see the forest for the trees.
The penetration of a virus is finite, the peak of the worlds systems ability to handle patients is where the attention is and where it should be!

Slowing the rate of spread through restrictions is the plan...it may be the ONLY viable plan there is. We're collectively not smart enough to engineer our way out of traffic jams, beating the worldwide spread of an infectious agent is probably several orders of magnitude more difficult - except for one advantage - we know by keeping non-infected people away from infected (directly opposite the other way around) people, a timeline 'partitioning' of the virus' rate of infection will work. This is simple math.

We have to let it work. But, it's not going to be easy or painless to get from here to there.

It will still spread, but by impeding the progress by some days or weeks, sick-time and treatment time becomes stretched onto a longer and flatter curve, one that's better aligned with the ability to administer treatment. Some people will need ventilators and other support, it requires a lot of resources.

And we've got to give ourselves some TIME to resolve things here.

Yeah it's going to crash economies. Too many people are going to die. Others are scared and some are going to complain, some will invent conspiracies. They'll tell lies, hoard commodities...and do whatever wrong things people are wont to do.

It doesn't matter if governments spend 100 years worth of future money, they can sort the balance out over ten coming decades, the current process of PAYING our way out of this may avoid having our current generations be stained for allowing 500 million deaths to occur when the 'probability' to prevent it exists.

None of us will be remembered if we prevent a mass casualty, but we will never be forgotten if we don't.

Nature recast us. We're Covid-19 generation.
 
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The same was said of Ebola and Sars, but no one over reacted to them. And those two were far more lethal..
True. But covid 19 is incredibly easy to spread. There were around 33000 cases combined from Ebola and sars. But at 3 months we are already at 270000 with covid 19. That is staggering.
 

ZedRM

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True. But covid 19 is incredibly easy to spread.
And nothing is going to stop it at this point.
That is staggering.
It is not. This planet has a population of nearly 8 billion(Billion). There are, as of the date of this post, less than 400,000 confirmed cases. Even if you multiply that by 10 to account for unconfirmed infections, that is still less that 1/2000th of the population. And most of those will survive.

So to sum up:
1. We're not stopping it with isolations
2. Less than 1 in 10000 currently have it
3. Less than 1 in 1000 are likely to get it
4. Most(98%+) people will survive it if they get infected

Are we really helping the populations of Earth with all the narrow-minded panic and over-reactions?
 
And nothing is going to stop it at this point.
That's wrong. Leading Doctors, including those in Trump's clan, have stated if we keep up what we are doing now the virus will peak in 4-8 weeks. My own Governor (Arkansas) said 6-8 weeks yesterday.

It is not. This planet has a population of nearly 8 billion(Billion). There are, as of the date of this post, less than 400,000 confirmed cases. Even if you multiply that by 10 to account for unconfirmed infections, that is still less that 1/2000th of the population. And most of those will survive.

So to sum up:
1. We're not stopping it with isolations
2. Less than 1 in 10000 currently have it
3. Less than 1 in 1000 are likely to get it
4. Most(98%+) people will survive it if they get infected

Are we really helping the populations of Earth with all the narrow-minded panic and over-reactions?
Since I made the post yesterday the number of cases has grown to 336,075. That is staggering, and sticking your head in the sand might help you, but it wont help everyone else.

 
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