DeepCool may be forced to halt US business after being sanctioned over Russian sales

[Endymio]

1. Recent Annexation (2014): In 2014, Russia seized Crimea from Ukraine in an illegal move that violated Ukraine’s territorial integrity. This action sparked the Russo-Ukrainian War

LOL, I doubt even you believes such nonsense. The Russian annexation of Crimea didn't "spark the Russo-Ukraine War", which came a decade later. Nor did Putin "justify the aggression" by anything except the fact that the citizens of Crimea voted overwhelmingly to secede from Ukraine. And, by a majority far larger than the citizens of Kosovo supported leaving Serbia, the citizens of East Timor voted to secede from Indonesia, and the citizens of South Sudan voted to secede from Sudan. Yet the US supported all those measures.

And you're still failing to acknowledge the fact that the US spent more than $5B in Ukraine to overthrow the existing government. While it's claimed this was for "democracy" efforts, that sum was at the time greater than the entire salary of every Ukrainian government worker. What *exactly* was it spent upon? The list of governments the US has overthrown -- and refused to acknowledge their involvement until decades later -- spans several pages.

1. NATO only exists because Russia is a threat global stability.

Nothing changes the fact that, both before the war and a full year into it, the entire conflict could have been halted, had NATO simply agreed to not put a base in Ukraine:

"...Ukrainian parliamentary deputy Davyd Arakhamia caused a stir when he said in an interview that during the peace talks between Russia and Ukraine in February–March 2022, Moscow’s delegation offered to end the war in exchange for Kyiv vowing not to join NATO.

“They actually hoped until nearly the last moment that they could press us into signing this agreement, adopting neutrality. That was their biggest priority. They were willing to end the war if we took on neutrality, like Finland...."

Translation. NATO's attempts to shoehorn Ukraine into the alliance resulted in the largest war the continent has seen since WW2, and the closest the world has ever come to global thermonuclear warfare, Cold War years included. When you and everyone you ever knew is radioactive vapor, will you take comfort in telling yourself that Russia got hit even worse?

 

[Endymio]

1. Transfer to Ukraine (1954): In 1954, Soviet premier Nikita Khrushchev transferred Crimea to Ukraine as a “noble act on behalf of the Russian people.” This decision was made within the context of the Soviet Union, where ethnic differences were supposedly absent2.

Two salient points you left out of this. First, Khruschev, who was himself Ukrainian, transferred control of Crimea from Russia in a move that violated both the Soviet and Russian constitutions -- but who then was going to argue with him? In Khruschev's autobiography, he called it "his birthday present to Ukraine.".

The more important point is that, while the USSR did suppress all ethnic differences and dissent (one of the few positive things they ever did), that all changed when an ultranationalist regime took power in Kiev. Imagine if the US banned African-Americans from holding government offices or positions, and barred Hispanics from speaking Spanish. Do you believe those minorities might have cause to act?

 

[Kirby1]

Two salient points you left out of this. First, Khruschev, who was himself Ukrainian, transferred control of Crimea from Russia in a move that violated both the Soviet and Russian constitutions -- but who then was going to argue with him? In Khruschev's autobiography, he called it "his birthday present to Ukraine.".

The more important point is that, while the USSR did suppress all ethnic differences and dissent (one of the few positive things they ever did), that all changed when an ultranationalist regime took power in Kiev. Imagine if the US banned African-Americans from holding government offices or positions, and barred Hispanics from speaking Spanish. Do you believe those minorities might have cause to act?

I don't think anyone here is even bothering to read your essay length comments here. I know I'm not.

I try not to waste time talking to brainwashed conspiracy nuts, and I've already wasted too much time on you.

Stop getting your news from Russia.

NATO only exists to counter Russian aggression.


The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) was established in the aftermath of World War II. Its primary purpose is to secure peace in Europe, promote cooperation among its member states, and safeguard their freedom. Specifically, NATO was created to deter the expansion of the Soviet Union and counter any strong nationalist military movements in Europe, as witnessed during the Second World War with the Nazi Party12. In essence, NATO functions as a collective security system, with member states agreeing to defend each other against attacks by third parties. Throughout its history, NATO has been involved in various military operations across different regions, including the Balkans, the Middle East, South Asia, and Africa1.

 

[Achaios]

'Wall of text crits you for 2842865544 dmg- You die'

Reminder that nobody reads your walls of txt.

Nothing personal, just a waste of time.

 

[toooooot]

So that we can support one corrupt non-democracy over another corrupt non-democracy ... and risk a nuclear WW3 in the process? No thanks.

You do realize that threatening with nukes is the main point of Putin to force democratic nations to end help to Ukraine while he finishes adding it to his rotting empire? He, his officials, talked about it non-stop when they still hoped to finish this quickly and while democratic countries still weighed if they should help.
A bully threatens someone to gain something.
"We should give him that, then we avoid conflict."
That is insanity. That is the opposite of common sense.
How about we let serial killers kill a select amount of people each year to
make sure they do not kill too many more?
Weakness is suicidal.

 

[Endymio]

NATO only exists to counter Russian aggression.

You might want to tell NATO that. Since the 1990s, their official mission statement has been to to "provide stability in Europe" and "assure the defense of members states". Yet their fervid insistence on expanding in Ukraine has brought the world to the brink of nuclear war.

I try not to waste time talking to brainwashed conspiracy nuts, and I've already wasted too much time on you.

Then stop spewing your disinformation?

You do realize that threatening with nukes is the main point of Putin

Except neither Russia nor Putin himself has done any such thing. And in fact both have repeatedly stated that nuclear weapons will be used only to defend the territorial integrity of Russia itself. I've read countless stories claiming that, every time Russia does something like tests a nuclear-capable missile that they are "threatening to nuke us all" -- yet the US, the UK, and France regularly perform the same drills.

One "red line" that Russia has said might indeed trigger a nuclear response is direct attacks on its own early-warning radars used to detect ICBM launches. Interestingly enough, Ukraine has repeatedly performed drone attacks on at least one of these radar facilities, despite the fact it doesn't participate whatsoever in the war in Donbass.

He, his officials, talked about it non-stop when they still hoped to finish this quickly

Actually, Russia spent an entire year slowly massing troops while demanding that NATO stop attempting to expand into Ukraine. It even put the proposal in writing to NATO months before the actual invasion, offering to draw down the border building in exchange for promises to halt NATO expansion. NATO thought they were bluffing -- and so we're on the brink of a world war.

Does Russia have the right to dictate whether or not NATO bases exist in Ukraine? It has about as much right as the US did to dictate that Cuba couldn't host Russian missiles. About as much right as the US had to dictate how Serbia treats Albanian separatists, or how Syria fights its own civil war, whether Grenada has a "Russian-friendly government", or whether Iraq has WMDs, or Afghanistan allows bin Laden to issue directives to his followers from there.

Or, instead of engaging in sophomoric discussion about ill-defined concepts like "rights", we can ask a pragmatic question: are you, yourself, willing to pick up a rifle to enforce Ukraine's "right" to join NATO? Or do you wish to simply continue to play Counter-strike in your basement, while millions of others die in this conflict?

 

[lripplinger]

Stupid, dumb as a rock U.S. politicians. These "sanctions" have done nothing but heighten tensions in the world. They also haven't stopped the war going on in Ukraine since 2014. All these do is hurt us here in the U.S., not Russia.

 

[toooooot]

You might want to tell NATO that. Since the 1990s, their official mission statement has been to to "provide stability in Europe" and "assure the defense of members states". Yet their fervid insistence on expanding in Ukraine has brought the world to the brink of nuclear war.


Then stop spewing your disinformation?


Except neither Russia nor Putin himself has done any such thing. And in fact both have repeatedly stated that nuclear weapons will be used only to defend the territorial integrity of Russia itself. I've read countless stories claiming that, every time Russia does something like tests a nuclear-capable missile that they are "threatening to nuke us all" -- yet the US, the UK, and France regularly perform the same drills.

One "red line" that Russia has said might indeed trigger a nuclear response is direct attacks on its own early-warning radars used to detect ICBM launches. Interestingly enough, Ukraine has repeatedly performed drone attacks on at least one of these radar facilities, despite the fact it doesn't participate whatsoever in the war in Donbass.


Actually, Russia spent an entire year slowly massing troops while demanding that NATO stop attempting to expand into Ukraine. It even put the proposal in writing to NATO months before the actual invasion, offering to draw down the border building in exchange for promises to halt NATO expansion. NATO thought they were bluffing -- and so we're on the brink of a world war.

Does Russia have the right to dictate whether or not NATO bases exist in Ukraine? It has about as much right as the US did to dictate that Cuba couldn't host Russian missiles. About as much right as the US had to dictate how Serbia treats Albanian separatists, or how Syria fights its own civil war, whether Grenada has a "Russian-friendly government", or whether Iraq has WMDs, or Afghanistan allows bin Laden to issue directives to his followers from there.

Or, instead of engaging in sophomoric discussion about ill-defined concepts like "rights", we can ask a pragmatic question: are you, yourself, willing to pick up a rifle to enforce Ukraine's "right" to join NATO? Or do you wish to simply continue to play Counter-strike in your basement, while millions of others die in this conflict?

You are rationalizing why or should a cannibal eat children. Putin took the lives of thousand innocent ones because he is a cannibal. I have a good idea why Hollywood likes to put both good and evil in this grey zone, no evil, no good. I will not discuss it here. I do not need to know why you need to do the same.

 

[drjekelmrhyde]

Just buy NOCTUA.

I paid, uh what, 80 euros in 2016 and now I have got a monster air cooler perfect for hot summers and even more importantly, it's guaranteed NOCTUA will support the socket of the next CPU I buy after I upgrade from my Haswell system.

NOCTUA were shipping to customers kits for their new socket CPU free of charge with proof of purchase.

Compare that to what the Chinese do: no aftermarket support of any kind, no kits for your CPU cooler.

I used to have a moderately good & expensive CPU cooler from Chinese Co Thermaltake that's completely useless now.

Not to be confused with NOCQUA the marine small battery company. I run my kayak fish finder and light off one.
/Hey this thread already went off the rails, so why not

 

[kiwigraeme]

Just remember to stop buying their products

While you are at it , add Nestle, nasty nasty company, Their shareholders always vote with greed at expense of peoples lives in developing companies - sell low quality junk with best profit
You can find most of their brands in a quick search
Easy not to eat most of their ultra produced , over sweeten junk
Purina dog food is theirs as well

Ukraine has corruption , like most countries , bad apples, But nothing like Russia.
No reason it can't become like the Baltic states. Russian propagandists, openingly on TV talk above invading Estonia etc . They don't because they know NATO would whip their evil hides . I sure the apologist will balme Estonia if that happened. Chenya , Georgia etc as well
Russia, North Korea and China govts are an axis of all that is not good
The fact we have people sucking up to them is weird.

Russian and China will learn the hard way, play stupid games you never win
Russian and Chinese are fed hate and nationalistic BS by their govt
to control and instill fear

Now a poster here try to instill this WW3 fear blah blah , straight out of Faux news. A TV station that tries to control you how you feel , telling you lies, by inciting fear, anger - non-binary people are coming for your children blah blah

Afraid of different people , afraid of immigrants , even though they once were , afraid of non-binary people

They love to hate, to have fear , to spread fear
Putin's plans don't stop at Ukraine, Russians are quite open they want to control the whole USSR again
People will always victim blame and worship evil. Lots of americans supported Nazi germany pre-peal harbour
They loved Hitler ( some still do ), like those here loving Putin/Russia , They are just more coy to not say it aloud, but we see it in their actions. they love what russia is doing, they don't care Russia bombs malls, hospitals, have you seen their regret that russia steals children , rapes, tortures , a litany of war crimes going back decades. they love it , they feed on it

Most enlighten Russians do not support this war, they think it's an abomination, but they will be arrested , tortured, imprisoned in they speak up
The Russian army is mostly there as conscripts or to make money - or to do evil
Many question why they are there, They are just lives to be wasted by Putin ( what does the meat grinder tell you ?? - that they are the good guys!! )

Putin can never be trusted, Weakness will be exploited , useful *****s are people they hate and disrespect as stupid people to use and throw away. I have never see useful *****s, apologist ever respected in history, everyone really dislikes them, especially the side using them - detestable people . Not one example otherwise I know of.
As Trump said last week to his supporters I don't care about you, I just want your vote . His supporters lapped it up , as they worship Trump. Trumps cult now loves Russia , If Trump hated Putin/Russia they would hate Russia - I find it all weird

 

[GodEmperorPepe]

You might want to tell NATO that. Since the 1990s, their official mission statement has been to to "provide stability in Europe" and "assure the defense of members states". Yet their fervid insistence on expanding in Ukraine has brought the world to the brink of nuclear war.


Then stop spewing your disinformation?


Except neither Russia nor Putin himself has done any such thing. And in fact both have repeatedly stated that nuclear weapons will be used only to defend the territorial integrity of Russia itself. I've read countless stories claiming that, every time Russia does something like tests a nuclear-capable missile that they are "threatening to nuke us all" -- yet the US, the UK, and France regularly perform the same drills.

One "red line" that Russia has said might indeed trigger a nuclear response is direct attacks on its own early-warning radars used to detect ICBM launches. Interestingly enough, Ukraine has repeatedly performed drone attacks on at least one of these radar facilities, despite the fact it doesn't participate whatsoever in the war in Donbass.


Actually, Russia spent an entire year slowly massing troops while demanding that NATO stop attempting to expand into Ukraine. It even put the proposal in writing to NATO months before the actual invasion, offering to draw down the border building in exchange for promises to halt NATO expansion. NATO thought they were bluffing -- and so we're on the brink of a world war.

Does Russia have the right to dictate whether or not NATO bases exist in Ukraine? It has about as much right as the US did to dictate that Cuba couldn't host Russian missiles. About as much right as the US had to dictate how Serbia treats Albanian separatists, or how Syria fights its own civil war, whether Grenada has a "Russian-friendly government", or whether Iraq has WMDs, or Afghanistan allows bin Laden to issue directives to his followers from there.

Or, instead of engaging in sophomoric discussion about ill-defined concepts like "rights", we can ask a pragmatic question: are you, yourself, willing to pick up a rifle to enforce Ukraine's "right" to join NATO? Or do you wish to simply continue to play Counter-strike in your basement, while millions of others die in this conflict?

I'm Ukrainian and everything this guy writes is pure bullcrap, lmao. He's propably one of russian paid monkeys from Lakhta troll farm.
Deepcool should bankrupt for paying taxes in terrorist state.

 

[Thanthan]

Unfortunately the facts don't support you. Obama/Biden financed and organized a coup in Ukraine, installing an ultranationalist government that instantly began repressing its ethnic Russian minority, and sparking a decade-long civil war, a war that saw Kiev regularly shelling civilian populations and financing paramilitary neo-Nazi organizations like Azov ... acts that earned it condemnation from the UN Human Rights Commission, the EU, and even (in 2015) the US Congress.

That aside, Russia has said since 2007 that attempting to put NATO bases in Ukraine would spark a war. Biden thought they were bluffing. His administration wrote a NATO membership plan for Ukraine, and even held NATO "training maneuvers" inside Ukraine, only a few miles from the Russian border. Zelensky -- reneging on his campaign promise to end the war in Donbass -- ramped up attacks, cut off the fresh-water supply to the civilian population of Crimea, and, egged on by NATO support, began talking of re-acquiring nuclear weapons and wrote into Ukraine's official defense posture the goal of attacking Russia directly to reclaim Crimea. When Biden sent Kamala Harris to the Munich Security Conference to repeat that NATO membership was "in Ukraine's own hands" -- Russia attacked.

And let's not forget that, both before the war began and during the 2022 Peace Talks, Russia was fully prepared to fully withdraw, in exchange for Ukraine's agreement to remain neutral, and not host NATO bases.

So we have four separate reasons for the war. You can argue that any or all of them aren't justified -- but the U.S. has used each of those reasons -- just one by itself -- as justification for attacking and invading a "peaceful, sovereign nation".

Your narrative is old. Tired. And continuously debunked. Georgia. South Ossetia. Abkhazia. Transnistria. Tajikistan. Chechnya. Dagestan. Chechnya again. Georgia again. Ukraine 2014. Ukraine 2022. Those are the imperialist conflicts Russia has engaged in since 1991 trying to hang on the ‘glory’ of their imperialist past, denying any people in their general vicinity the right to self determination in accordance with international law. And they will continue doing so for as long as they are able to. The ultranationalist right in Ukraine did not rise up due to American influence. It did so in response to Russian imperialism exemplified by the annnexation of Crimea and Russian assistance to russoaligned terrorist groups within Ukraine. And even then they only got sub 5 percent of the vote, far, far, from the ‘massive ultranationalist presence’ that Russia would tell people occupy spaces of power within Ukraine.

I’m not here to tell anyone that the US of A is a country run by angels. But the idea that someone ‘forced’ russias hand in this is absolutely laughable. Vladimir Putin is a crybaby who can’t accept the loss of large swaths of the Russian empire, and his way of dealing with that inability to face reality are temper tantrums resulting in death and destruction for his neighbours.

 

[Endymio]

I'm Ukrainian and everything this guy writes is pure bullcrap, lmao. He's propably one of russian paid monkeys from Lakhta troll farm.

If any of my statements were "pure bullcrap", you dispute them and prove otherwise. The fact you haven't is very telling. Worse for you is the fact all my statements are easily confirmable. Here's an analysis from a Senior Fellow at Harvard, on the transfer of Crimea from Russia to Ukraine:

"...the publicly enunciated rationales for the transfer of Crimea to [Ukraine] were of little credibility, [but] some of the comments published in 1954 and other information since then do allow us to gauge why the Soviet authorities decided on this action....The transfer of Crimea was politically useful for Khrushchev as he sought to firm up the support he needed in his ongoing power struggle with Soviet Prime Minister Georgii Malenkov... Among those whose support Khrushchev was hoping to enlist was Oleksiy Kyrychenko, who had become first secretary of the Communist Party of Ukraine... In 1944, when Khrushchev himself was still the Communist Party leader in Ukraine, he reportedly had suggested to Stalin that transferring Crimea to [Ukraine] would be a useful way of winning support from local Ukrainian elites..."

Why Did Russia Give Away Crimea Sixty Years Ago?

In 1954 the Soviet Union transferred control of Crimea to Soviet Ukraine. Mark Kramer (Harvard) explains the reasons behind this surprising decision, one which has come back to haunt Ukraine today with tragic consequences.

www.wilsoncenter.org

As for the earlier votes by Crimea to separate from Ukraine, which began simultaneously with Ukraine voting to separate from Russia, here's a NYT story:

"May 6, 1992: Crimea Parliament Votes to Back Independence From Ukraine ... The parliament of the Crimea voted today to declare a conditional independence from Ukraine, adding a perilous new twist to the confrontation between Russia and Ukraine...."

Crimea Parliament Votes to Back Independence From Ukraine (Published 1992)

www.nytimes.com

 

[Endymio]

Your narrative is old. Tired. And continuously debunked. Georgia. South Ossetia....

Please stop spreading disinformation. From the New York Times:

"...After a lengthy inquiry, investigators commissioned by the European Union are expected to conclude that Georgia ignited last year’s war with Russia by attacking separatists in South Ossetia, rejecting the Georgian government’s explanation that the attack was defensive...."

After Georgia began the war, Russia counter-attacked, occupying nearly the entirety of Georgia. And then what happened? Russia, having proven it's point -- withdrew entirely. So much for the narrative of "re-establishing the USSR"

https://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/29/...fficial familiar with the investigators’ work.

By the way, just last month, Georgia claimed that US-funded NGOs in their country had twice in recent years attempted overthrows of the government there. And when the Georgian legislature passed a law requiring funding for these foreign organizations to be made public, the US threatened severe sanctions against Georgia in reprisal.

The ultranationalist right in Ukraine did not rise up due to American influence. It did so in response to Russian imperialism

Actually, according to their own words, the ultranationalists in Ukraine are seeking "ethnic purity" -- which is why Ukrainian paramilitary groups like Azov have attracted white supremicists from across all Europe.

 

[kinetix]

An American politician said some time ago: "Wage war was decided in Washington, and starting it was decided in Moscow."

 

[Derekc]

What just happened? DeepCool, the Chinese company behind some very popular air and liquid cooling devices, PC cases, and power supplies, may have to stop all its US operations, including after-sales support. The firm has been sanctioned by the State Department for allegedly selling $1 million worth of products to two Russian companies.

The State Department writes that it is sanctioning 300 individuals and entities to degrade Russia's capability to pursue its war of aggression against Ukraine. Sixteen of these are Chinese firms that are said to have supplied export-controlled items to Russia.

One of the names on the list is Beijing DeepCool Industries. The company is accused of supplying Russia with over $1 million worth of goods on the Common High Priority List (CHPL).

Two of the companies DeepCool sold goods to are known to support Russia's war efforts in Ukraine: Aktsionernoe Obshchestvo Taskom, which is involved in freight transportation; and OOO Novyi, a PC manufacturer. Both Russian companies were sanctioned by the US Treasury Department last September.

Exactly what DeepCool sold to the companies is unclear. The 50 items on the CHPL pose a heightened risk of being diverted illegally to Russia because of their importance to the country's war efforts, according to the BIS. They include the likes of electronic integrated circuits, capacitors, and printed circuits.

The sanctions mean that DeepCool's US subsidiary will no longer be able to continue in the United States. Sales of its products will be halted in the country as US residents are prohibited from conducting any business with the company.

Placement on the sanction list also means that DeepCool may no longer be able to provide after-sales support to customers in the US. That could be especially problematic when it comes to warranty claims and service agreements.

DeepCool's products are still available on Amazon, Newegg, and Micro Center, which is a bit strange as buying one of them would technically be breaking the law. The products could disappear soon, though, and the prospect of no after-sales service or warranties will likely put buyers off.

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DeepCool may be forced to halt US business after being sanctioned over Russian sales

What just happened? DeepCool, the Chinese company behind some very popular air and liquid cooling devices, PC cases, and power supplies, may have to stop all its US operations, including after-sales support. The firm has been sanctioned by the State Department for allegedly selling $1 million worth of products to two Russian companies.

The State Department writes that it is sanctioning 300 individuals and entities to degrade Russia's capability to pursue its war of aggression against Ukraine. Sixteen of these are Chinese firms that are said to have supplied export-controlled items to Russia.

One of the names on the list is Beijing DeepCool Industries. The company is accused of supplying Russia with over $1 million worth of goods on the Common High Priority List (CHPL).

Two of the companies DeepCool sold goods to are known to support Russia's war efforts in Ukraine: Aktsionernoe Obshchestvo Taskom, which is involved in freight transportation; and OOO Novyi, a PC manufacturer. Both Russian companies were sanctioned by the US Treasury Department last September.

Exactly what DeepCool sold to the companies is unclear. The 50 items on the CHPL pose a heightened risk of being diverted illegally to Russia because of their importance to the country's war efforts, according to the BIS. They include the likes of electronic integrated circuits, capacitors, and printed circuits.

The sanctions mean that DeepCool's US subsidiary will no longer be able to continue in the United States. Sales of its products will be halted in the country as US residents are prohibited from conducting any business with the company.

Placement on the sanction list also means that DeepCool may no longer be able to provide after-sales support to customers in the US. That could be especially problematic when it comes to warranty claims and service agreements.

DeepCool's products are still available on Amazon, Newegg, and Micro Center, which is a bit strange as buying one of them would technically be breaking the law. The products could disappear soon, though, and the prospect of no after-sales service or warranties will likely put buyers off.

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Has anyone asked the question how is Russia spending money on stuff making money for the war isn't that a loss aren't they losing money I mean what are fans and CPU coolers going to get the Russian military other than spent money.

 

[kinetix]

The first Chechen war was against Islamists financed by the US (like the Taliban). Then they invaded Dagestan (Russia intervened and prevented it) and then they were crushed by Russia and the Chechens loyal to Russia. It's funny how the US and its dogs then had to face in Afghanistan and Iraq those same Chechen Islamists that they had previously financed, again, very much like the Taliban. And about Ossetia and Abkhazia, they already answered you before. It's all about the US and UK trying to dominate the Caucasus (just like they are now ****ing the Armenians through the Azeris)

Then, if we only look at the last 20 years, nobody forced the US and its dogs to attack, invade and destroy Iraq, Libya, Syria, to finance coups, to arm and finance "opponents", "moderate rebels" (wait until they do the same as Bin Laden, Taliban, Chechens and others like them, come back to bite the master's hand), in addition to crushing several countries in the world economically and financially, twisting the arms of others if they don't submit. and you don't want me to include the years before these 20. why do you think that most of the planet, by far, either directly or indirectly supports Russia, or does not do or will not do what Uncle Sam and his dogs want, much less support/help them (except for some new handpicked ***-kissers like Milei in Argentina), or simply doesn't give a damn about Ukraine (which is nothing more than Uncle Sam's battlefield, battering ram and cannon fodder against Russia)? most of the planet knows the parties very well, the origins and causes, the interests and consequences, and sees very clearly through all the media-political BS, they has a lot of experience (in they own skin) in this regard, and so they take positions and act.

 

[kinetix]

NATO's raison d'etre, in the words of General Hastings Lord Ismay, NATO's first Secretary General (Winston Churchill said the same thing), "America In, Germany Down and Russia Out"

 

[dangh]

Good topic to block some russian bots I see.

 

[themastergoose]

As someone with a case and CPU cooler made by DeepCool, I wondered what was up as I raised a support ticket at the start of the week about purchasing additional magnetic dust filter covers used in my case.

The reply was along the lines of “We can’t send items to the United Kingdom”.

So I also guess now then if I need a warranty ticket on the CPU cooler or my PSU I’m out of luck as they can’t send anything here.

I’ve noticed as of writing across Amazon UK, Scan and Overclockers almost everything from Deepcool has either been deleted or is listed but says it’s not available and can’t be ordered.

It’s honestly a little silly… They make cases, coolers and PSU’s. I fail to see how this constitutes DeepCool funding the Russian war or giving them an advantage, but yet most comments in here seem to want DeepCool to fall into irrelevancy and possibly go bankrupt as the entire western nations have banned their products being sold here.

Next week, they’ll be another company added to the list and so on…

 

[Dimitrios]

Your comment is pure nonsense with no basis in reality. Russia invaded Ukraine and started a war. The US didn't start it, Ukraine didn't start it. Only Russia is to blame here, despite what Tucker Carlson tells you to think.

Kirby there is a lot that you don't know. Spend a weekend and do some real research. All sides are bad, but you will see which one is the bigger problem. Stop relying on MSM.

Look up biolabs in Ukraine.

 

[Thanthan]

Please stop spreading disinformation. From the New York Times:

"...After a lengthy inquiry, investigators commissioned by the European Union are expected to conclude that Georgia ignited last year’s war with Russia by attacking separatists in South Ossetia, rejecting the Georgian government’s explanation that the attack was defensive...."

After Georgia began the war, Russia counter-attacked, occupying nearly the entirety of Georgia. And then what happened? Russia, having proven it's point -- withdrew entirely. So much for the narrative of "re-establishing the USSR"

https://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/29/world/europe/29georgia.html#:~:text=MOSCOW After a lengthy inquiry, investigators commissioned,to an official familiar with the investigators’ work.

By the way, just last month, Georgia claimed that US-funded NGOs in their country had twice in recent years attempted overthrows of the government there. And when the Georgian legislature passed a law requiring funding for these foreign organizations to be made public, the US threatened severe sanctions against Georgia in reprisal.


Actually, according to their own words, the ultranationalists in Ukraine are seeking "ethnic purity" -- which is why Ukrainian paramilitary groups like Azov have attracted white supremicists from across all Europe.

look. I’m not here to argue that the Azov battalion of old (it is currently quite different to when it started out) was anything but a fiery cesspool of nazism. A fiery cesspool of nazism that could be directed at Russian invaders, but a fiery cesspool of nazism nonetheless. That doesnt stop their popularitet from having grown massively following the annexation of Crimea. It also doesnt change the fact that ultranationalists occupy a fringe position in Ukrainian parliament…

And ok. Russia didn’t start one of the ten or so wars I listed… Your point? They still started around ten others since 1991?

 

[raydpratt007]

Good. Businesses that trade with Russia should be sanctioned.

When Victoria Nuland of the US Dept. of State revealed in an intercepted phone call that she was choosing the leadership of Ukraine after the US-sponsored coup in 2014, I think it was fairly plain that the US was not promoting democracy in Ukraine, but rather subverting it. From that point on, the US and its vassal countries in Europe have been the promoters and supporters of every attack against ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine who have refused to be ruled over by the Neo-Nazi coup government. So, in all good conscience, I believe that all businesses that continue to do business with Russia (which intervened to protect the Ukrainian ethnic Russians) should be patronized. I forgive those businesses that could not risk their economic survival by continuing to do business in Russia in the face of sanctions, but I would love to have a list of businesses that took joy in the sanctions against Russia and refused to do any further business with Russia and continue to refuse to do business with Russia in order to support the coup government in Ukraine. I don't want to support mentally-deficient persons procreating.

 

[Endymio]

look. I’m not here to argue that the Azov battalion of old (it is currently quite different to when it started out) was anything but a fiery cesspool of nazism.

I could argue otherwise, but that's irrelevant. The fact is that Azov *was* a cesspool of Nazism, and Kiev funded it and allowed it to run rampant over Ukrainian citizens who happened to be ethnic Russians. It was this -- and other repressive acts by Kiev -- that sparked the nation's civil war. Not Russia.

And ok. Russia didn’t start one of the ten or so wars I listed. Your point? They still started around ten others since 1991?

You're honest enough to admit you're wrong about one war. If you research, you'll find you're wrong about many (not all) of the others as well.

Let's take Transnistria, for instance. In 1989, a group of Russian citizens in present-day Moldova called the Popular Front of Moldova began to advocate "pan-Romanianism". In 1991, they declared themselves independent not just from the crumbling USSR, but from Russia as well. They also decided they had autonomy over their neighbors in Transnistria as well, but when those neighbors disagreed and formed their own government that same, they send armed troops into Transnistria to defeat them. After four months of fighting, remnants of the 14th Army intervened, and a cease-fire was declared, granting de-facto independence to Transnistria, which has ever since printed its own currency, elected its own officials, and maintained its own borders and armed forces. The Russian government, except for issuing some pointed rhetoric now and then, was not involved.

One final point. While the 14th Army, under General Lebed, are sometimes called "Russian troops", this unit had most recently been under the control of the Ukrainian government, and at the time of the conflict were under no one's orders, being effectively a stateless remnant. Even Western scholars all agree that they acted without orders from any government, as most of the troops, having lived in the region for years or decades and largely married locals, considered themselves Transnistrian above all else.

Transnistria: The History Behind the Russian-backed Region | Origins

Nestled between the Dniester River to the west and the Ukrainian border to the east lies the self-proclaimed breakaway state of Transnistria. The Pridnestrovian Moldovan Republic (PMR)—to use the official name—is internationally recognized as a part of Moldova but has maintained de facto...

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