Earth is now outside most of the "planetary boundaries" under which human civilization...

[wiyosaya]

Thankfully we are not an emergent civilisation then. Back to work.

Now we rely on Hubris and Pride. Perfect!

 

[wiyosaya]

Well, duh, obviously. The reason I put that sentence in maniacal hysterical form is because this whole thing IS now maniacal hysterical. With some truth because as far as I can see, those who are hysterical about this planet future are those who either explicitly say they won't procreate, or behaviourally showing the lack of such drive.


Nice accusation. What IF I accuse those who push this agenda as hard as they could as the candlebearer to big tech, big media, big government? Or possibly CCP agent since China is the ultimate beneficiary of all "green tech" products and supply chains? Everyone can play this easy lazy game.

Perhaps you should learn the definition of "benefits".

 

[wiyosaya]

The steady infiltration into the political viewpoint will be by all the voters of mediocre incomes who are paying an ever increasing price for energy, in part due to inflation, but also environmental policies. Environmental polices that limit the extraction and use of fossil fuels makes people poorer. Much of the world has yet to benefit from the cheap, reliable, transportable, high concentrated form of energy that brainwashed morons out to "save the planet" have benefited from their entire lives and are STILL benefiting from. And China is building ever more coal fired power stations. At least the CCP got one thing right in its otherwise atrocious existence.

And while you are not paying attention, this https://www.iqair.com/china/beijing

 

[m4a4]

And another OMG moment ripe with the inability to understand the main driver in the article. In case you cannot figure that out properly, its humanity and humanity's "advancement."

Nice deflection. As in, you saw how obviously you missed it

And where does [novel entities] appear in the article?

and can't admit that you didn't do the due diligence before sending the reply lol

About what I expected considering your other comments.

 

[p51d007]

Is the data incorrect ? Do you have other findings of your own ?


Great country, built on slave labor and land appropriation.
Fell behind how ? We at least have working healthcare system. Last 12 months I had a tumor removal surgery, a few dozen of proton theraphy sessions, 8 months of PCV complimentary chemo, all in a city 100 miles away. All paid with my taxes, including accomodation in a hostel for all the complimentary treatments. If I had to rely on private insurance, I'd get next to nothing as they would probably dismiss it as genetic I was told by insurance rep. And I was still paid 80% of my salary the entire year.

Everyone uses 50, 100, 150 years of "data" to show the Earth is heatin up due to "man made global warming". 50-200 years is NOTHING to the age of the Earth. It's been warmer, it's been colder. Should we be good stewards of this planet? Yes, but banning this and that in hopes it will "change the climate" is nonsense for a few reasons. 1. Not ALL countries are banning fossil fuels (ie: China, India among a few) 2. One good pop from a mid size volcano will disrupt the climate more than man could (outside a global thermonuclear war). In 1815, a mid sized volcano blew its cork in present day Indonesia. The output affected the global temperatures that in 1816, it was known as the year without summer. It's also believed to be part of the cause of the Irish potato crisis, and an outbreak of virus/disease in the southern Europe area.

Earth's Temperature in Past 18,000 years: <climate

 

[VcoreLeone]

you are still a member of the modern group of people that did those things to your country

and what would those things be exactly ?

I'm in a different bracket, but overall the same things you do, just better!
Except healthcare coverage!

Aha, I'd get the same things, or even better ones, except I'd be either dead or broke/in debt for the rest of my life.

 

[loki1944]

Good grief! They've been complaining about this for 60 years!

no kidding; just virtue signaling propaganda at this point

 

[loki1944]

Thankfully we are not an emergent civilisation then. Back to work.

awesome

 

[loki1944]

Oh, look the private jets and luxury yachts club has another report on why we should give up all our freedoms and luxuries and give them the power to make decisions over every aspect of our lives. Nothing at all suspicious about that, they're really just good people trying to save the planet. Just because the plans give them an extreme amount of power over our lives while also making their ventures more lucrative for them is definitely not something we should be concerned with.

Spot on.

 

[scavengerspc]

and what would those things be exactly ?


Aha, I'd get the same things, or even better ones, except I'd be either dead or broke/in debt for the rest of my life.

It's the American way!

Well, for a few. We all get from a young age what the deal is.
Sink or swim. It works.

no kidding; just virtue signaling propaganda at this point

"YEAH! HE says things like I say!!"

Except the problem with you is you can't see that in that 60 years things have gotten much, much worse. Blind and deaf, what a way to "live".

Everyone uses 50, 100, 150 years of "data" to show the Earth is heatin up due to "man made global warming".

You just aren't paying attention. Again. Since we are all aware of the connection between carbon dioxide and temps, it is very self-explanatory. And please, ask me for more.

 

[texasrattler]

And where does that term appear in the article? I think the article is clear in stating what the conditions are and what is causing those conditions.

That's what happens when real concerns are brought to the forefront and everyone keeps doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results regardless of right on the chart.

It appears on the chart. I didn't see any mention of it in the article is why I was asking. I only see the term used on the chart.

And where does that term appear in the article? I think the article is clear in stating what the conditions are and what is causing those conditions.

That's what happens when real concerns are brought to the forefront and everyone keeps doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results regardless of the concerns.

 

[Random Commenter]

It's the American way!

Well, for a few. We all get from a young age what the deal is.
Sink or swim. It works.


"YEAH! HE says things like I say!!"

Except the problem with you is you can't see that in that 60 years things have gotten much, much worse. Blind and deaf, what a way to "live".


You just aren't paying attention. Again. Since we are all aware of the connection between carbon dioxide and temps, it is very self-explanatory. And please, ask me for more.

Why not extend the x-axis back even further? Say 400 mln years or so.

 

[VcoreLeone]

Sink or swim. It works.

yeah, it does. both ways tho.🤑
I just don't think it achieves anything that's better than what most of Europe offers.Unless you're the one selling the product or service.

 

[Navig8R32]

Good grief! They've been complaining about this for 60 years!

Because it still warrants complaining about and further action. Even the DoD considers climate change a national security priority: https://www.defense.gov/spotlights/tackling-the-climate-crisis/ If you can't handle it, go back to watching Charlie Brown.

 

[anastrophe]

It's a shame they apparently no longer teach the fables "The boy who cried wolf" and "Chicken little"....

 

[scavengerspc]

It's a shame they apparently no longer teach the fables "The boy who cried wolf" and "Chicken little"....

Interesting you use "The boy who cried wolf" since deniers are the lazy nonbelievers.

 

[anastrophe]

Interesting you use "The boy who cried wolf" since deniers are the lazy nonbelievers.

Thanks for acknowledging that you have no idea what the fable is about.

The climate hysterics have been "sounding the alarm" for fifty years, with no evidence yet that this is _catastrophic_ climate change. It's changing, that's obvious with every season having a different length each year. That doesn't make it a crisis, even on a century scale.

I'm in favor of not setting petroleum on fire, as there are much better uses for it.

In the meantime, any climate change activist that doesn't support nuclear power until better alternatives are available is just a hypocrite.

 

[scavengerspc]

The climate hysterics have been "sounding the alarm" for fifty years

And things have gotten much, much worse in those years.

I'm in favor of not setting petroleum on fire, as there are much better uses for it.

We agree there. We are solely responsible for probably the worst serial killer.

In the meantime, any climate change activist that doesn't support nuclear power

I have a long history of being pro nuke.

What I don't get is the old, tired mantra "they have been saying it for xx years"
Yes, they have, and it has gotten worse as time has gone on.

So many records for temps high and low, rain, snow, severe storms spread out over the last hundred or so years have fallen just in the last 5.
Somehow that escapes the tiny mind, though.

 

[havok585]

Climate change talk, on a tech site. oh dear.