He owns one of the most successful and influential companies in the entire world, he deserves everything he gets. Those that don't like him just because he is smart af are sickening. I for one will be buying 1000 shares of stock and then once we land on Mars, I will be retiring as the stock 500x's overnight
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That may be so, but I won't be worshipping this man's arse like he's a god.
pnntmp
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Okay but why do I need to know that?
And why do you need to say it?
I guess because you used to worship "this man's arse like he's a god" not long ago.
A certain category, commonly referred to as 'woke', really worshiped him for allegedly fixing an alleged problem with unpleasant weather in the nebulous future ( commonly referred to as 'climate change') because Tesla cars don't use fossil fuels. Dumb, I know.
When it became clear Musk was actually a sane guy who had nothing to do with the woke, they immediately dis-worshiped him. Which is actually the same with the opposite sign - now they worship him like he's the Devil.
Interestingly, the Devil worship is far more intense and deeply emotional. The woke are literally foaming every time His Name is mentioned.
Mark Fuller
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Okay but why do I need to know that?
And why do you need to say it?
I guess because you used to worship "this man's arse like he's a god" not long ago.
A certain category, commonly referred to as 'woke', really worshiped him for allegedly fixing an alleged problem with unpleasant weather in the nebulous future ( commonly referred to as 'climate change') because Tesla cars don't use fossil fuels. Dumb, I know.
When it became clear Musk was actually a sane guy who had nothing to do with the woke, they immediately dis-worshiped him. Which is actually the same with the opposite sign - now they worship him like he's the Devil.
Interestingly, the Devil worship is far more intense and deeply emotional. The woke are literally foaming every time His Name is mentioned.
Tesla cars do use fossil fuel. 70% of the electricity used to recharge any electric car is produced by oil and coal.
And why do you need to say it?
I guess because you used to worship "this man's arse like he's a god" not long ago.
A certain category, commonly referred to as 'woke', really worshiped him for allegedly fixing an alleged problem with unpleasant weather in the nebulous future ( commonly referred to as 'climate change') because Tesla cars don't use fossil fuels. Dumb, I know.
When it became clear Musk was actually a sane guy who had nothing to do with the woke, they immediately dis-worshiped him. Which is actually the same with the opposite sign - now they worship him like he's the Devil.
Interestingly, the Devil worship is far more intense and deeply emotional. The woke are literally foaming every time His Name is mentioned.
Tesla cars do use fossil fuel. 70% of the electricity used to recharge any electric car is produced by oil and coal.
Squid Surprise
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pnntmp
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Of course they do indirectly. But the woke are a tribe that avoids thinking.
Now they'll hate Musk even more ..
Aolish
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Why all this disdain towards rich people. Has the mainstream media brainwashed all of us that bad? I'm not all that knowledgeable, but doesn't the top 1% of them pay 50% of the taxes? If it wasn't for them our taxes would be much higher than what they are now. I think we're about to get a taste of that here in NY when all the rich people leave, the taxes will only get higher. Don't get me wrong, of course there are some corrupt rich people out there but that's not the majority.
Mark Fuller
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Oh, I understand the point that it is an alternative to the internal combustion engine and he probably is a legitimate businessman. I was just trying to clarify, saying that fossil fuel production of electricity has an effect on climate as well.
Mark Fuller
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I don't exactly know who the woke are. But it sounds like another group of double minded people who like to blow horns.Of course they do indirectly. But the woke are a tribe that avoids thinking.
Now they'll hate Musk even more ..
pnntmp
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No. In the US they pay 40%
The top 5% pay 60% of the taxes.
The bottom 50% pay 3% of the taxes, so the half of the population lives essentially tax-free.
I have absolutely no idea, we should erect them monuments.
Note that 95%+ of the negative attitude towards rich people you see online comes from paid trolls. What you see online has nothing to do with the real world.
bclaymiles
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Vast majority of what this nonsense claim is based on is "Restricted Stock". Meaning, it's not 'earnings'. It's imaginary value rather than tangible value. It's a convenient fiction to give the shrieking left another reason (as if they as if they need one) to clutch their pearls, while ignoring multimillionaires such as Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, Bernie Sanders, Nancy Pelosi, Ro Khanna, billionaire George Soros and like minded son, billionaire Neville Roy Singham and more, because they're the "right kind" of rich people.
Nothing more fun than promulgating class warfare and division.
Nothing more fun than promulgating class warfare and division.
wiyosaya
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That would be an extension worth installing.
Given fElon's current behavior, it would not surprise me if, like Nicolai Tesla, dies bankrupt and alone.
Mark Fuller
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Nikola Tesla never had the enormous corporate success of an Elon Musk, he was more of a scientist than a CEO.That would be an extension worth installing.
Given fElon's current behavior, it would not surprise me if, like Nicolai Tesla, dies bankrupt and alone.
Anton Longshot
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Sorry to rock your boat a bit but I derive from what you write that you think (for example) the homeless people deserve their fate.
The Dutch have a saying "Without Luck No One Prospers"...I'm 65 now and I realized this is a hard truth a long time ago.
As for Musk specifically, he was born into money. Would he be the richest man on Earth if he was born poor? An interesting thought experiment.
monkeylove
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That's been going on for decades, and in many countries.
Burty117
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We all know the answer to that question...
I still do not understand why rich people get to pay less tax than everyone else, when they can afford it the most.
Squid Surprise
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Because they DON’T pay less tax… they pay more… yes, there are loopholes and such - but the actual taxes paid by someone like Musk, Gates, Bezos, etc dwarf what “regular people” pay.
Aolish
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Is it me or am I the only one that is glad rich people are still around? Why has there been a popularity on hating the rich? I mean I'm not saying they're perfect by any means, there are definitely rich people that are corrupt but that's not the majority. Why has there been a risen popularity where everyone feels the rich has to redistribute their to wealth to everyone? This mindset seems to be WAY more prevalent in college campuses and this seems to be stemming more from the left rather than the right. That they're these corrupt, EVIL, villainess people that needs to go. I would argue if it wasn't for the rich, we'd be paying WAY higher taxes compared to what we're paying now. From my understanding the top 1% pay 40% of the taxes in this country, they employ millions of people around the country (one successful business can support an entire network of livelihoods), they donate enormous amounts of money to charities and humanitarian causes, they fund inventions and technologies that make everyday life better etc. In my opinion, they are essential to have around and personally am SO glad that they're here moving the world forward in terms of innovative ideas and inventions. Being wealthy doesn't automatically make someone corrupt, greedy, or undeserving of their money. Some of these people build businesses, take enormous financial risks, develop valuable skills, or spend decades working toward financial independence. It isn't easy achieving the results they were able to do but when they do it, they deserve every cent that comes to them. Again, I'm not saying the rich are perfect, their are definitely rich people who are corrupt but they aren't the majority, they are the minority and I just feel like we are throwing away the baby with the bath water. A perfect example of this is NYC where it seems like EVERYONE hates the rich and people just wants to condemn them. And because of this mindset THOUSANDS of rich people have already moved out and now as a NYC resident I am absolutely TERRIFIED of my taxes getting higher only because of this rhetoric that is going around about condemning the rich. Does anyone else feel the same way or is it just me?
Here is a definition from tposegaming.com: "Politically/liberal or progressive (as in matters of racial and social justice) especially in a way that is considered unreasonable or extreme."
Couple of examples of wokeness:
1. Men can now become a woman if they feel like it.
2. Allowing biological men into women's private spaces like bathrooms and locker rooms.
3. Allowing biological men into women's sports competitions like wrestling, boxing and weight lifting championships.
4. There are more than two genders now.
5. Men getting pregnant
6. Biological language changes: Pregnant woman are now Pregnant people/birthing persons/people with uteruses, NYC legislation to push replacing mothers and fathers with gestating parent and non-gestating parent etc.
7. Yale putting tampons in men's bathrooms etc.
There are more than this but these are just a few examples of wokeness.
From my understanding, wokeism is a set of modern ideologies from the left (that's the key word here "modern") that seeks to undermine traditional beliefs INCLUDING science and biology.
Here is a definition from tposegaming.com: "Politically/liberal or progressive (as in matters of racial and social justice) especially in a way that is considered unreasonable or extreme."
Couple of examples of wokeness:
1. Men can now become a woman if they feel like it.
2. Allowing biological men into women's private spaces like bathrooms and locker rooms.
3. Allowing biological men into women's sports competitions like wrestling, boxing and weight lifting championships.
4. There are more than two genders now.
5. Men getting pregnant
6. Biological language changes: Pregnant woman are now Pregnant people/birthing persons/people with uteruses, NYC legislation to push replacing mothers and fathers with gestating parent and non-gestating parent etc.
7. Yale putting tampons in men's bathrooms etc.
There are more than this but these are just a few examples of wokeness.
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Burty117
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Why does, every study ever, show they pay less percentage of their income on tax than normal people do?
Squid Surprise
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Because % isn’t what I was talking about… here is some simple math for you: even if I pay 100% of my 100k salary in taxes, it’s LESS than Bezos paying 5% on 10 billion…
And for the record, they still pay a higher percentage than “normal people”….
The “studies” you are referencing probably include investments… that doesn’t get taxed until it is sold… but it DOES get taxed if/when a billionaire actually needs the cash…
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