Elon Musk finally takes control of Twitter, fires CEO and other execs

[m3tavision]

Literally, none of that is true or accurate.

There are so many deluded people... who have zero idea why CNN folded, or understand what fake news is.

1st Elon Musk is not a Republican, he just sees the obvious misrepresentation of liitle/young kids in our digital society who portray themselves as adults... understanding how Twitter became an echo chamber for Socialist who like to virtue signal. And seeing the moment an adult (or Someone with wisdom) steps in... these kids shout them down or put their hands over their ears/eyes. Bcz they can't cope with thinking on their own, or even understand the framework of our society.

Coincident If you hate free speach and an open debate.. it's because you can't back your opinion up & are more emotional driven by propaganda than actual facts. Thus, have a hard time with real debate.

Lastly, Those who use their free speach to hate WILL Naturally be shunned & shamed and will have no sway or influence in a public square. They will be outcasts...


That^ is why, iberal lemmings don't t want open debate, because their agendas would be revealed.

 

[zulu53]

Its a real pity that all Musk can do is fire these total incompetents. Now if he could use good old South African "jungle justice" he would be able to strip them financially of their ill gotten gains. A group of people less able to justify their salaries you will only ever find in Meta or Google.

 

[zulu53]

Good news

I want Twitter to be neutral place and support free speech. I don't want it to be pro left or right. Twitter was pro left in the past

More like - pro where ever the money flow took them - right, left, centre made no difference to them. Just like the guys at FB. Leeches of humanity. At least with Musk we have half-a-chance of some neutrality: with the last bunch we had zero.

 

[MTD2019]

As one who sees most social media as the downfall of society I can only hope that this will be the death of the first major social media platform, one that has never actually been profitable and was bought at a premium price. The "fired" executives are crying all the way to the bank.

 

[WhoCaresAnymore]

The N-word trended for about 3 hours earlier today. None of the posts were taken down. Twitter is going to fail quickly as large companies like Disney will immediately pull advertising if things like the N-word are allowed to trend.

DISNEY??? really. LOL.

 

[WhoCaresAnymore]

Literally, none of that is true or accurate.

Ok. None of that is true or accurate. Try this:
Go purchase a bottle of Nyquil. You will be required to supply your ID.
Go purchase true psuedophed. You will be required to supply your ID.
Go purchase a beer, or liquer. You will be required to supply your ID.
Go online for a mail in ballot. You won't need an ID. you just supply some information and a ballot is mailed to you.

So all of that is false?

 

[zulu53]

There are so many deluded people... have have zero idea why CNN folded, or understand what fake news is.

1st Elon Musk is not a Republican, he just see the obvious misrepresentation of liitle/young kids in our society who portray themselves as adults... that is how Twitter became an echo chamber for Socialist who li, e to hear each other. And the moment an adult or with wisdom steps in... these kids shout them down or put their hands over their ears/eyes.

If you hate free speach is because you can't back your opinion up, & are more emotional driven. Learn to cope with real debate.

Those who use their free speach to hate WILL Naturally be shunned & shamed and will have no sway or influence in a public square.

That^ is why, iberal lemmings don't t want open debate, because their agendas would be revealed.

The difficulty of any debate (it has always been this way) is the most people are not equipped either intellectually (nature) or subject matter experienced (nuture) to argue on the subjects raised. The current trend to give an experts opinion the same weight in a debate as a non-expert (as in "I have a right to my opinion being published" as if their is some one man one vote to the solution undermines all debate on social media.

 

[captaincranky]

Man buys company with money he doesn't have...neat trick.

Not only that, it's Musk's only trick. Other than his consummate, (GOAT), ability to talk money out of other people's pockets, and into his, he's the proverbial, "one trick pony".

There's an archaic adage, "money breeds money", which everyone seems to have forgotten, (or is ignoring). It's doubly, or more, true, If you have no moral restrictions as to where you source it.

 

[zulu53]

Not only that, it's Musk's only trick. Other than his consummate, (GOAT), ability to talk money out of other people's pockets, and into his, he's the proverbial, "one trick pony".

One trick? You got to get out more - try DuckDuckGo and search. Have you heard of Tesla? SpaceX? etc. etc. My my count probably 20 plus tricks since he left high school.

 

[RudyBob]

Lol "Chief Twit"

Twit is UK slang for dunce.

Just sent my first tweet "Elon Musk likes having sex with barn animals in the name of free speech."

You know this because you are in the stall next to him? If you can accuse Musk of sexing up farm animals here at Techspot I can accuse you of the same. We will see. Don't forget to squeal like a pig

 

[zulu53]

But how free though?

At least Musk understands that "free"dom needs to pursued to be obtained. So many people think that it just falls out of the sky on them (or is given by the "big person - God or Government or ET) without them having to do anything but ask for it (or complain when they have not received it yet).

 

[sreams]

Lol "Chief Twit"

Twit is UK slang for dunce.

Pretty sure he knows that, and that that was the whole joke.

 

[captaincranky]

You know this because you are in the stall next to him? If you can accuse Musk of sexing up farm animals here at Techspot I can accuse you of the same. We will see. Don't forget to squeal like a pig

I can't attest to the veracity of your suggestion from personal experience. However, it seems to me,that the only reason for the human to "squeal like a pig", in coital ecstasy, would be for the pig to be taking on the male role in the tryst

 

[Avro Arrow]

I think you get it. A lot of it. By "you get it", you understand what the far left progressives are doing. The more you post, the more I am understanding where your train of thought is coming. It's in a pretty good place. Fair.

I absolutely think that there are enough commonalities with middle of the road liberal and conservative people.

Of course there are and there always were. To me, the woke aren't "far-left" but are a bad combination of leftist-related ideals coupled with right-wing fascist methods. That puts them on neither side.

To me, the left is Western Europe where people have the highest standards of living and the longest lives. This is a provable truth and that's what matters to me as it has been functioning for decades like this. I believe that a government should be in the service of the people and provide necessities without the toxic profit motive being involved. A heavily-regulated private sector can fight over luxury items so people will still have something to aspire to. I say heavily-regulated because it's been made patently clear that private corporations cannot be trusted to not destroy everything in their quest for ever-rising profits. This is the truth and it's not only provable, we see it every single day.

I also believe in limits on how much wealth one person can have because at some point, more wealth does nothing to improve one's life. These billionaires who hoard their wealth damage the economy more than any criminal enterprise because an economy is an engine, labour is the fuel that powers it and money is the oil that helps it to run smoothly. If you keep taking oil out of an engine and hoarding it in bottles, the engine will eventually suffer catastrophic failure. Again, not only is this provable, we see it every single day.

I'm on the left because I'm moved by truth, not rhetoric. I did my own research, obtained information only from sources that were the most qualified to give it. Any time I saw lies or misleading rhetoric, I was reviled and moved away from it. By the time I was done my research, I found myself to be a member of the NDP and so here I am. Make no mistake however, if lies started to come from the party of which I am a member, I wouldn't defend it at all costs, I would attack it because defending it when it's wrong doesn't make it better, it only makes it worse.

The truth is the truth. What we want to be true is irrelevant. This is why, if you go and look at every post that I've ever made on Techspot, you will never find me lying. One reason is that I have no problem saying "I don't know." when I am really not sure about something. You may find me in error and when shown the error, I am proud to eat my fair share of crow and move on. In fact, when I'm proven wrong, I thank the person who proved me wrong because I know that I'm a better man for it. Lies occur when someone is proven wrong but won't accept it. People like that have weak and fragile egos. I'm not like that because if I'm wrong, I WANT to know so I can change for the better. To me, that's the most respectable position that one can take because we're all human and being wrong sometimes is just a part of the whole deal.

I don't think that my philosophy is all that great or complicated, it's just what makes the most sense to me based on the truths that have been proven to me. I don't cling to anything because that would be like refusing to use anything newer than a Pentium.

 

[nnguy2]

You know this because you are in the stall next to him? If you can accuse Musk of sexing up farm animals here at Techspot I can accuse you of the same. We will see. Don't forget to squeal like a pig

does free speech offends you?

 

[sreams]

Well, my belief is that the scientific method should be applied to everything. When a scientist has a theory, it must first be reviewed by other peer-level scientists whose job is to poke holes in it. If they're successful, then the theory cannot be published. Only when the theory is solid enough to survive objective scrutiny can it be published.

This is where "Freedom of Speech" falls flat. The scientific method exists because it's understood that false theories can be incredibly harmful. The same is true for socio-politics. Belief in something that is objectively false creates discord and can ultimately result in war. I know that it's really hard to control what people say but the media is another matter. If the media was forced to actually be "fair and balanced" (and MSNBC is just as guilty of it as Fox), then the current political divide wouldn't be what it is. Instead, the media says whatever they want to keep the masses divided while actually serving their rich corporate overlords. I've seen barefaced lies from Fox, MSNBC and CNN but the people who watch them eat this stuff up and believe it blindly. This causes so much damage to American society that it will result in a socio-political catastrophe.

Unfortunately, it's even more dangerous to shut down "false" speech. The power to do so will always end up in the hands of some entity that has motivations other than "truth".

 

[zulu53]

Not all Americans think that way, although, I am beginning to wonder if the right will advocate for a US version of "The Morality Police." After all, that is working out really well for Iran ATM.

I could not have said it better myself.

Reminds me of https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517660/?ref_=ttep_ep18
Some seem to think that "The Truth is Fluid"

Truth is not fluid; it is however Relative not Absolute. Relative on a statistical basis via humans perception of reality. The lack of STEM knowledge in the US (particulry on a "technical" forum) is hard to believe. A guy called Einstein (many believe the smartest human produced so far - a GOAT since he not been proven wrong for the last 100 years) summarized for the illiterate: "EVERYTHING IS RELATIVE". Just three words - so how come so many people can't understand it? The education system in the US sucks?

 

[maxxcool7421]

Time to find out if Elon will kep his word and reinstate several accounts which were blocked by various reasons, but basically because Twitter censored them.
Will be interesting to hear about some accounts of Trump, Johnny Depp, etc.

List of people censored by Twitter - Infogalactic: the planetary knowledge core

infogalactic.com

Yup cant wait for him to issue lifetime bans on them

 

[captaincranky]

One trick? You got to get out more - try DuckDuckGo and search. Have you heard of Tesla? SpaceX? etc. etc. My my count probably 20 plus tricks since he left high school.

What the heck is "Tesla", or, ""Space-X"? You'll have to forgive me, I live in a hut, without running water, electricity, and certainly no internet. Why, I had to walk 20 miles to a neighboring tribe's village to use their community Wi-Fi. just to post that message.

If I might be so bold as to ask, "exactly how much of the technological aspect of those companies Musk has contributed, versus how much of his running his mouth and collecting money he has done?".

Dr. Martin Luther King is notorious for saying, "I have a dream". But without boots on the ground, neither King's or Musk's would have become reality.

Shouldn't Musk be in his mars colony be now, instead on banging off into Twitter? Inquiring minds want to know..

 

[maxxcool7421]

Can't wait for this to turn into ''parler 2.0'' filed with pedophiles, nazi's, antiscience nuts, flat earthers, lizard people belivers, mangina truck driving derps and 50% of the non-bot user base to drop off making it unprofitable to own.

 

[zulu53]

Unfortunately, it's even more dangerous to shut down "false" speech. The power to do so will always end up in the hands of some entity that has motivations other than "truth".

"One man's freedom fighter is another mans terrorist". Truth is relative. "Free" speech allows one to see all of the theories about a subject and make an evaluation (to the limit of ones intelligence/experience on the basis that every possibility has been considered and a determination made of its probability - scientific method if you like. "Freedom of Speech" was put in the constitution to help mitigate one of the major problems of one man one vote democracy - people don't think enough about the options before casting their vote (humans are intrinsically lazy and if left unchalleged would become "lemmings" and go extinct. The "debates" or "thinking" generated by opposing opinions = the journey, is what it is all about. The destination (the Government we elect) is the Government we deserve and it is relatively (not absolutely) competent compared to any other Government we could have chosen. Musk understands this (as an immigrant he had to learn it) and is pushing for Twitter to be a vehicle of debate to support (not control) the constitutions intent.

 

[tellmewhy]

Freedom of speech in general is a very good thing, but its implementation can be problematic. When there is a discussion about something, it is important that all participants can express their opinions without limits, so that all aspects of the topic are revealed. This is the theoretical benefit of free speech.

But if someone creates a free Twitter account and goes to the ceo's account for example and posts a negative and shallow comment then by doing so they will hurt the feelings of the account holder. This will happen because someone will come along and with zero effort take advantage of all the time and effort the other person has put into their account just to say something negative about them in a public space that they have put effort and time into creating. Adults have fixed personalities so they won't like this and will consequently have a bad experience on the platform when this happens.

It is different for someone to say something negative about someone else in a medium other than their own. Because when you use his own medium it hurts their feelings more because they have made an effort to create the public space in which the negative opinion is expressed. Let's say I say something negative here in public about the ceo of the TS (I don’t know him, it’s theoretical), even if it's true or well-intentioned he won't think about free speech he'll think about all the work he's done and won't accept if someone comes and with zero effort to express something negative for him in the public space that he painstakingly supports. There is also a minority who will take the opinion well even then (because when a problem appears then you always look for the cause by searching inside all those negative opinions that you had pushed away), but they are a minority.

So that’s an aspect of the free speech which have the potential to produce a negative effect in the platform.

 

[WhoCaresAnymore]

Of course there are and there always were. To me, the woke aren't "far-left" but are a bad combination of leftist-related ideals coupled with right-wing fascist methods. That puts them on neither side.

To me, the left is Western Europe where people have the highest standards of living and the longest lives. This is a provable truth and that's what matters to me as it has been functioning for decades like this. I believe that a government should be in the service of the people and provide necessities without the toxic profit motive being involved. A heavily-regulated private sector can fight over luxury items so people will still have something to aspire to. I say heavily-regulated because it's been made patently clear that private corporations cannot be trusted to not destroy everything in their quest for ever-rising profits. This is the truth and it's not only provable, we see it every single day.

I also believe in limits on how much wealth one person can have because at some point, more wealth does nothing to improve one's life. These billionaires who hoard their wealth damage the economy more than any criminal enterprise because an economy is an engine, labour is the fuel that powers it and money is the oil that helps it to run smoothly. If you keep taking oil out of an engine and hoarding it in bottles, the engine will eventually suffer catastrophic failure. Again, not only is this provable, we see it every single day.

I'm on the left because I'm moved by truth, not rhetoric. I did my own research, obtained information only from sources that were the most qualified to give it. Any time I saw lies or misleading rhetoric, I was reviled and moved away from it. By the time I was done my research, I found myself to be a member of the NDP and so here I am. Make no mistake however, if lies started to come from the party of which I am a member, I wouldn't defend it at all costs, I would attack it because defending it when it's wrong doesn't make it better, it only makes it worse.

The truth is the truth. What we want to be true is irrelevant. This is why, if you go and look at every post that I've ever made on Techspot, you will never find me lying. One reason is that I have no problem saying "I don't know." when I am really not sure about something. You may find me in error and when shown the error, I am proud to eat my fair share of crow and move on. In fact, when I'm proven wrong, I thank the person who proved me wrong because I know that I'm a better man for it. Lies occur when someone is proven wrong but won't accept it. People like that have weak and fragile egos. I'm not like that because if I'm wrong, I WANT to know so I can change for the better. To me, that's the most respectable position that one can take because we're all human and being wrong sometimes is just a part of the whole deal.

I don't think that my philosophy is all that great or complicated, it's just what makes the most sense to me based on the truths that have been proven to me. I don't cling to anything because that would be like refusing to use anything newer than a Pentium.

All of this, but we still can't get nVidia to get pricing down.

 

[GoldenGoat]

I'm not an elon musk fan, but I'm glad he bought it if he really intends to do what he says. I'm tired of cancel culture. banning people for "spreading false information" is basically a form of cancel culture where you're cancelling someone simply for saying something that is incorrect or doesn't align with company opinion. saying something that is wrong is not a crime (I don't want to hear from the fire in a theater people. you know what I mean). we're all guilty of being wrong more often then we would like to admit. cancel culture is basically zero tolerance revenge against someone for making a mistake or saying something you don't agree with. and that is what our society has become thanks to social media. I'm not defending hate speech in any way. That is really a different issue than "spreading false information." my hope is elon musk can do better. I say let's give him and chance.

 

[m3tavision]

Of course there are and there always were. To me, the woke aren't "far-left" but are a bad combination of leftist-related ideals coupled with right-wing fascist methods. That puts them on neither side.

To me, the left is Western Europe where people have the highest standards of living and the longest lives. This is a provable truth and that's what matters to me as it has been functioning for decades like this. I believe that a government should be in the service of the people and provide necessities without the toxic profit motive being involved. A heavily-regulated private sector can fight over luxury items so people will still have something to aspire to. I say heavily-regulated because it's been made patently clear that private corporations cannot be trusted to not destroy everything in their quest for ever-rising profits. This is the truth and it's not only provable, we see it every single day.

I also believe in limits on how much wealth one person can have because at some point, more wealth does nothing to improve one's life. These billionaires who hoard their wealth damage the economy more than any criminal enterprise because an economy is an engine, labour is the fuel that powers it and money is the oil that helps it to run smoothly. If you keep taking oil out of an engine and hoarding it in bottles, the engine will eventually suffer catastrophic failure. Again, not only is this provable, we see it every single day.

I'm on the left because I'm moved by truth, not rhetoric. I did my own research, obtained information only from sources that were the most qualified to give it. Any time I saw lies or misleading rhetoric, I was reviled and moved away from it. By the time I was done my research, I found myself to be a member of the NDP and so here I am. Make no mistake however, if lies started to come from the party of which I am a member, I wouldn't defend it at all costs, I would attack it because defending it when it's wrong doesn't make it better, it only makes it worse.

The truth is the truth. What we want to be true is irrelevant. This is why, if you go and look at every post that I've ever made on Techspot, you will never find me lying. One reason is that I have no problem saying "I don't know." when I am really not sure about something. You may find me in error and when shown the error, I am proud to eat my fair share of crow and move on. In fact, when I'm proven wrong, I thank the person who proved me wrong because I know that I'm a better man for it. Lies occur when someone is proven wrong but won't accept it. People like that have weak and fragile egos. I'm not like that because if I'm wrong, I WANT to know so I can change for the better. To me, that's the most respectable position that one can take because we're all human and being wrong sometimes is just a part of the whole deal.

I don't think that my philosophy is all that great or complicated, it's just what makes the most sense to me based on the truths that have been proven to me. I don't cling to anything because that would be like refusing to use anything newer than a Pentium.

Avro.. you do realize that the left in Europe, is not the same as in the US.

That the Left in the US blatantly lie, because they know they can hide behind the media... before they retract. Thus false headlines planted in America media.. that nobody has to say sorry for, or takes ownership of.

Dr Fauci, Facebook, Twitter, Biden all lied to America and tried to sell lies. America media is starting to fold from all their misinformation.. and hopefully Twitter can hold the Media accountable now...

Now that the truth will not be censored, or shadowbanned...!