Elon Musk fires Twitter engineer for arguing with him publicly

[hwertz]

First off, Ohnooze, this is not a political issue and it's nonsense and gibberish when you keep trying to claim people you disagree have any specific political views.

A good CEO does accept criticism, and if he's going to dip into technical arguments he should be willing to accept when he was wrong about something. Musk's basically a super-rich man-child, and if I worked at a company run by someone like that, I would not care if I continued to work there any longer or not. He's like one of those old ******* business barons from the 1800 or early 1900s, except it's not the 1800s any longer, in the 1800s the business barons had the work, do what they ant or else. In the modern day the technologists are in extreme demand so his threatening "do it or your fired" really has no impact except making him look petty.

Dont forget: last year twitter's R+D budget was a whopping $1.5 BILLION, with absolutely nothing to show for it. This company had 7500 employees, and according to twitter's badge records at best 25% of staff showed up, usually the number was in the single digits.

Agreed, I have no idea what in the hell the R&D is going for. That's crazy.
Disagreed on the second point, Twitter allowed remote work, and if you're coding there's 0 reason to ever come into the office. Having 25% or even single-digit staff decide to go to a physical office is completely irrelevant to be honest.

 

[RudyBob]

The trouble is,. most of the good people will not want to work for a tyrant who believes his own press and thinks he's a genius when he is not.

"The good people..." Oh stop

 

[Ohnooze]

First off, Ohnooze, this is not a political issue and it's nonsense and gibberish when you keep trying to claim people you disagree have any specific political views.

A good CEO does accept criticism, and if he's going to dip into technical arguments he should be willing to accept when he was wrong about something. Musk's basically a super-rich man-child,.......blah, blah, crying, blah....

A good boss does not let his employees get on social media and call them out as a lair. Sorry but that's not reality.

Not sure what you mean with the "political issue" comment.....

 

[DukeJukem]

So basically musk said something and an employee publicly stated that he was wrong. not only did he say he was wrong but he did it in a "full of himself way." disagree? well he did and here's how. the original statement was "I have spent ~6yrs working on Twitter for Android and can say this is wrong." first of all bud, you don't need to start the sentence displaying your resume', nobody cares about your 6 years at twitter except you and your 401k, which is you. it's as if he was advertising his resume from the start because he knew he was poking the bear to begin with but I digress. secondly "and can say this is wrong." we clearly know you're saying something bud. there's no need to mention you're doing it. "I say joffrey look at all these peasants beneath me while I wipe myself with my million dollar bills haw hawwww."

anyways...musk therefore proceeds to call him out and basically challenge his 6 years of experience asking why the twitter app is garbage and he also threw a shot in there beforehand as well, which is fine considering someone well beneath him is calling him out publicly so expect to be called out in return. then musk fires him and I'd do the same. you don't challenge the boss when the work you've displayed over the past 6 years is obviously incomplete and not up to par lol.

I dont see why people are mad at musk. dont call people out the way you did if youre replaceable and arent being progressive with your job. the twitter app should be mastered by now. it's not a complicated platform to use lol. 6 years should be plenty of time to make it work properly for everyone.

 

[nnguy2]

Name a company where the companies said employes are allowed to badmouth the owner on social media.

No I agree with you he should be cancel! Hurray for cancel culture.

 

[human7]

I love all the people here bovating about how terrible musk is here, forgetting that most employers (including their own) have social media policies that would allow them to fire said employees for doing this exact thing. You dont take office arguments onto social media. Period.

That's true, but most employers aren't social media companies where the boss is publicly commenting on the platform how their platform works, and gets it wrong. Even so, anyone who would disagree publicly with their boss should expect retaliation.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Free lunches are over with. Muhaha!

Elon Musk says free employee lunches at Twitter HQ were costing more than $400 per meal because 'almost no one' was in the office

Musk said Twitter spent $13 million a year on food service at its San Francisco office while badge-in records put average occupancy below 10%.

www.yahoo.com

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Too funny not to post.

Former Twitter Employee Can't Seem To Find Meditation Room At New Taco Bell Job

SAN FRANCISCO, CA — According to sources, a local developer who was recently let go from Twitter is having a difficult time finding the meditation room at his new job at the SFO Airport Taco Bell.

babylonbee.com

 

[MyIOnU]

LOL people act like it only happens with Twitter. Dare anyone to criticize your boss publicly and still work as normal in the company.

 

[scavengerspc]

Too funny not to post.

Former Twitter Employee Can't Seem To Find Meditation Room At New Taco Bell Job

SAN FRANCISCO, CA — According to sources, a local developer who was recently let go from Twitter is having a difficult time finding the meditation room at his new job at the SFO Airport Taco Bell.

babylonbee.com

That was in my email when I woke up this morning. I have been a member there for a long time. Have you read their book "The Babylon Bee Guide to Wokeness"? It's hilarious.

Also, have you checked out Not the Bee yet?

 

[SixTymes]

First, anyone with half a brain knows this article is a hit piece. Everyone on the left loved Elon until he spoke out and switched political parties because democrats are no longer who they once were.

Secondly, regarding him firing the employee who was a complete jerk and unprofessional, you would have to be really d u m b to not do the same.

 

[Bluescreendeath]

And now finally began posting profits....under the leadership of Musk. Twitter will be the same, once Musk has weeded out those who want the old unprofitable regime to remain.

Lol, Musk has been running Tesla since 2008 after the original founders were ousted. Tesla didn't start consistently make profits until 2020-2021 (it made some profits around 2018 but then lost money again in 2019). Under Musk's leadership, it took 12-13 years of investors throwing billions at the company and billions of government subsidies to finally start turning a consistent profit.

That is called fake it until you make it.

Musk is the one of the last people you would turn to if you want a company to make a profit.

 

[Bluescreendeath]

I think biting the hand that feeds you is a bad idea. The guy that got canned wanted to get his name in the press. Pay attention

Musk is hardly the hand that feeds you when he only got involved in the company recently, basically performed a hostile takeover of the company, cut benefits, revoked WFH, fired most of the top execs, and has threatened to fire half or most of the employees.

If a foreign Chinese corporation bought your company/place of employment, cut your pay & benefits, fired the management, and has threatened to fire most of the rank & file employees, would you still feel grateful to them as the hand that feeds you?

 

[mgilbert]

I've tried hard to like and admire Musk and think of him as one of the good guys, but he clearly possesses many of the same severe flaws that makes Trump such a despicable subhuman.

 

[Bluescreendeath]

First, anyone with half a brain knows this article is a hit piece. Everyone on the left loved Elon until he spoke out and switched political parties because democrats are no longer who they once were.

Secondly, regarding him firing the employee who was a complete jerk and unprofessional, you would have to be really d u m b to not do the same.

Complete jerk and unprofessional? He should have been Best Friends Forever with Musk then.

Let's not forget how Elon Musk publically accused a British rescuer of the boys trapped in a flooded cave for being a pedophile because he was a white British guy living in Thailand. And Musk libeled that guy as a pedophile because the guy (who had actual diving experience) questioned whether Musk's dumb submarine idea would work.

Or how he goes on public podcasts and uses drugs that are illegal under federal laws.

Or how Musk skirts the grey area of insider trading by constantly trying to manipulate the price of Tesla stocks with his Tweets and public comments.

But remember, Musk is the "do what I say, not what I do" type of guy who doesn't know how to lead by example.

 

[trgz]

I love how the Trump crowd supports Musk's stupidity and spoiled man-child actions because...........he's just like that Orange-Haired buffoon!!

What a train wreck. The dog was chasing the car, now he caught it he doesn't know what to do with, it except pick up fights due to his total social media technology ignorance!!

All he knows about Twitter is how to post snarky BS.

The dog has decided to p|ss up against one of the tyres, to continue your analogy.

 

[dangh]

How I see it is he admitted the problems and provided a bit of insight (probably not the most accurate from the technical perspective). Wrong or right, I believe the first step in fixing a problem is admitting it exists. The devs seem to believe it does not exist or has other causes.I did not see them point to the cause, only defending their part.

hmm. First of all, if you admit the problem, you do not push the blame.
Secondly, if you did not analyse the problem, you do not describe the reasons, because you probably talk crap.
If you talk crap on some people work publicly, then it is normal someone tells you that is a crap.
If you got told you talk crap you can either shut up or... fire that person (lol).
Now, dev in this case did not say the problem do not exist. Dev said that Musk said crap about RC and number of calls. And he used the same communication medium as Musk. If musk would create a Jira ticket then Dev would respond in there. It was Musk who made the call to use public forum as bug maintenance platform.

Normal human interaction.
Now, if person A publicly says 'Person B steals money' and millions of people heard that information, would the person B do better to ask him privately 'hey, but that's not true' and then person A respond privately 'yes, you're right, sorry'?

There are some professional standards you should follow in both business and technical world. Being rich is not 'I can do anything' ticket. Being owner of company doesn't mean you do not have to follow the rules.
Admitting the problem would look like that - 'I realised the performance on android is not great', insight would look like that: 'and I reached the team responsible to give me detailed analysis which I will share after done', and action would look like that: 'and then we will decide what resources are required to address those issues'.
Now, it is more like 'I did some coding 20 years ago and when I looked at my phone I see there are thousands of calls going on, that's my educated guess because I'm a billionaire'

 

[lonetac]

Imagine schilling for Elon Musk, how precious

 

[Avro Arrow]

How I see it is he admitted the problems and provided a bit of insight (probably not the most accurate from the technical perspective). Wrong or right, I believe the first step in fixing a problem is admitting it exists. The devs seem to believe it does not exist or has other causes.I did not see them point to the cause, only defending their part.

Well Musk himself is a problem... Does he admit that HE exists?

 

[wiyosaya]

"The good people..." Oh stop

Implying everyone's bad, are we?

 

[Ohnooze]

Implying everyone's bad, are we?

Humanity is broken and there are no "good" people. Though some people's idea of good is relative.

 

[Bluescreendeath]

According to a recent Bloomberg article, Musk apparently was trying to soften some of his stances and backtrack on canceling WFH in an attempt to get the remaining 50% of Twitter employees who weren't massed laid off to not quit:

"Elon Musk gave Twitter Inc. employees an ultimatum to either commit to the company’s new “hardcore” work environment or leave. Many more workers declined to sign on than he expected, potentially putting Twitter’s operations at risk, according to people familiar with the matter. ...
So many employees decided to take severance that it created a cloud of confusion over which people should still have access to company property. Twitter closed its offices until Monday, according to a memo viewed by Bloomberg. ...
Musk brought back leaders who had departed, either as part of his own layoffs or through resignation, to convince others to stay, one of the people said. One returning leader is Ella Irwin, who will manage employees in Trust and Safety, according to a person familiar with the matter, who declined to be identified discussing non-public changes. ..."

Musk’s ‘Hardcore’ Ultimatum Sparks Exodus, Leaving Twitter at Risk

(Bloomberg) -- Elon Musk gave Twitter Inc. employees an ultimatum to either commit to the company’s new “hardcore” work environment or leave. Many more workers declined to sign on than he expected, potentially putting Twitter’s operations at risk, according to people familiar with the matter...

finance.yahoo.com

Jeez, who would've thought that getting rid of nearly the entire upper management, mass laying off 50% of your rank and file employees, threatening the jobs of the rest who remained, cutting benefits for those who remained, publicly firing employees who argue with you via tweet, and even trashing the company itself (that you recently bought) is very bad for employee morale and will encourage people to jump ship?

 

[Wasteman]

Not much of a resume.....worked for a company that continually lost money, developed apps that are slow and bloated, argued with boss on a public forum.

ROFLMAO

 

[RudyBob]

Implying everyone's bad, are we?

All you do is put words. What's that like to make stuff up all the time? You have a few good ideas in your posts but you also are your own enemy.