Elon Musk issues ultimatum to Tesla: give me more shares or AI and robotics development...

[zulu53]

Let me explain something about the automotive industry, most car companies do not R&D their own vehicles. They outsource it to another company, whether that be Bosch in Germany for all of the electronics and safety systems or Takata in Japan for similar systems. This has led to a mess for these companies to try to adapt to vertically integrated upstarts like Rivian, Tesla etc... These so called competitors are still trying to get their houses in order regarding reshoring and centralizing of parts supply. Jim Farley of Ford has talked about this openly and transparently which is why Ford is miles ahead of the other US OEM's, they have identified the problem and are sorting it out.

None of the points such as this that I made 6 months ago have been proven incorrect, the Tesla model Y is the top selling car on the planet. This is a fact, it is not arguable of contextualizable it simply is. This will most likely change as you cited BYD is coming to eat everyone's lunch because of course they are as they're the beneficiary of the rather interesting Chinese system. I mentioned BYD in several comments many months ago as I follow the Australian automotive sector quite closely as it is an excellent microcosm for the Western markets as a whole being a commonwealth country close at hand to Chinese markets.

I read all citations folks spend time directing my way, it is the only responsible option.

I never said a prius or certainly you're prius was a "girly" car, I said it was a "geeky" car in general reference to where it was perceived in the market by the general public and that Tesla (as lead by Musk) changed the public perception of EV's toward being the desirable sexy option for the future consumer. I personally don't care about how a vehicle is perceived, as I've mentioned I was the guy showing up at weekend auto cross events in a 2007 Toyota Corolla stick shift from 2008 till 2013 (when I bought my gently used 2009 C class stick shift).

My Father is a retired Electrical Engineer who worked for Newfoundland Light and power for nearly 50 years from 1970 to 2016 during which the provincial grid was completely modernized with the basis being hydro electricity as well as being privatized like all Canadian infrastructure of note in this period. His 3 favorite quotes which my sister and I heard many thousands of times are as follows:

"When you assume you make an *** out of you and me."

"I do wish we could be better strangers."

"Do endeavor not to speak so loosely."

That last one is the foundation for my response style and likely what has most shaped my neurocognitive space. Which begs the question of how could I even tolerate someone like Musk? The answer is that he is a necessary evil to shake loose the complacency and stagnation in the industries he occupies. If he just stopped posting anything publicly we would all be more content in the tech enthusiast space but we'd also be rather more blind to the complete lack of innovation happening in most spaces.

My glasses are blueish, which is my preferred cant though it is always open to change based upon new data sets.

Musk has referred to Tesla as his child and Henry Ford named the Edsel after his son so I suppose there's a connection there. One didn't sell and the other can't be manufactured fast enough though so there's that.

To present times from your fathers times. In his time Engineers were left virtually alone do determine the needs of the people and how to meet them within their subject - say electrical supply, distribution and use. With the propaganda means now open to Government (elected and un-elected) though fake news distribution they want to and do try to control the narrative for their purposes and use their deep-pockets for lawyers to enforce their story. Elon Musk has to be knowingly "in-your-face" to the Government (since he is one voice against many) since he is one of the few people alive today that really understands the" fake" AND has the money to out-lawyer the Government. Look for the message behind the "in-your-face" presentation - there is the truth. In this case the Government of the US does not want to control AI development (Congress has said it many times with their complete inaction) so he is stepping up by pointing out that he will do it for his own company since the other large shareholders are siding with Congress.

 

[wiyosaya]

Tesla warns of 'notably lower' sales growth in 2024

It is the latest car company to forecast sagging demand for electric cars.

www.bbc.com

 

[wiyosaya]

To present times from your fathers times. In his time Engineers were left virtually alone do determine the needs of the people and how to meet them within their subject - say electrical supply, distribution and use. With the propaganda means now open to Government (elected and un-elected) though fake news distribution they want to and do try to control the narrative for their purposes and use their deep-pockets for lawyers to enforce their story. Elon Musk has to be knowingly "in-your-face" to the Government (since he is one voice against many) since he is one of the few people alive today that really understands the" fake" AND has the money to out-lawyer the Government. Look for the message behind the "in-your-face" presentation - there is the truth. In this case the Government of the US does not want to control AI development (Congress has said it many times with their complete inaction) so he is stepping up by pointing out that he will do it for his own company since the other large shareholders are siding with Congress.

Musk is and always has been FAKE.

 

[nulll]

Tesla warns of 'notably lower' sales growth in 2024

It is the latest car company to forecast sagging demand for electric cars.

www.bbc.com

Or you could not outsource your thought process to a third party and just listen to the unabridged earnings disclosure and Q&A that unlike a piece by the BBC is regulated and held to a minimum standard of accuracy by SEC guidelines.

The actual call begins at 8:30 in the stream.

 

[atomicgirl]

When will this clown be ousted at last?

We will have to wait for that kid from the Emperor's New Clothes to show up.

 

[Greg Powell]

Put him and trump on a rocket, and just launch it, nevermind the target...