Elon Musk says lockdown is "fascist" and "forcibly imprisoning people in their homes"

[Danny101]

There is a big difference between staggered and what these people want (quick one with most if not all restrictions removed from the start and don't deny it). The timing of it is also terrible.

In the end, saying that the restaurant manager is the one responsible means nothing when he has no costumers. It's just pointless risk taking for zero profit, just so you can say you are "free".

"I haven't heard of a single person saying this virus doesn't exist." - wow... just wow. do you want me to link videos? are you really going to be "that" guy?

It's a freaking pandemic with over 1mil Americans infected (and we both know these numbers are on the low side). Saying that you should not force people to stay in their homes until this is under control is just childish and frankly... simply insane.

Stay in your home for another few weeks and stop complaining. Take a look at Europe for a bit and learn from what is happening there. Nobody cares that you accept the risk it brings to you when you disregard everybody around you.

TL;DR the idea that "I'm not afraid so I'll go out" is just stupid.

It seems to me to be a virus designed to spread, but not necessarily kill. To spread fear. Some people immune systems are so close to the edge that it's enough to do so. Those who are most vulnerable to let's say the flu should take steps to protect themselves. The vulnerable should quarantine, not the healthy. The overarching point is that a dying economy helps nobody. The real worry is what the perps have in the pipeline. This was a warning.

 

[ShagnWagn]

There is a big difference between staggered and what these people want (quick one with most if not all restrictions removed from the start and don't deny it). The timing of it is also terrible.

In the end, saying that the restaurant manager is the one responsible means nothing when he has no costumers. It's just pointless risk taking for zero profit, just so you can say you are "free".

"I haven't heard of a single person saying this virus doesn't exist." - wow... just wow. do you want me to link videos? are you really going to be "that" guy?

It's a freaking pandemic with over 1mil Americans infected (and we both know these numbers are on the low side). Saying that you should not force people to stay in their homes until this is under control is just childish and frankly... simply insane.

Stay in your home for another few weeks and stop complaining. Take a look at Europe for a bit and learn from what is happening there. Nobody cares that you accept the risk it brings to you when you disregard everybody around you.

TL;DR the idea that "I'm not afraid so I'll go out" is just stupid.

Correct. None of my friends have said that. You can link any video you like across the internet. You know, because people never do that for likes and money. I'm sure there are people who deny it. If that's wow to you, then yeah, wow. Maybe my friends are more sane in this?

Are you really going to be "that" guy who forces people to stay home to suit yourself? Forcing everyone to go bankrupt because you want to wait until after last case, false positive or not, is gone for 2 weeks or more? How about you stay in your own house until every last sickness is gone? I don't want to get the flu from you or you to help it spread. Don't like that do you? Sucks to be of a liberal mindset.

 

[Danny101]

Sometimes these threads do get out of hand.

 

[candle_86]

Thank God that your grandma is OK and that she doesn't go out. Healthy bodied people should take the hit so that people like her don't have to be afraid of going out in a few weeks.

If you randomly infect her because more people are on the streets that's on your hands, but you don't seem to understand that. Insanity at its finest.

Actually my first duty is to my wife, to provide for her, that means a home, food, and time together. Still gotta pay rent, so no taking a hit is unacceptable, same as my buddy losing his bussiness, that's unacceptable as well. If our founding fathers where alive they'd tar and feather the authorities ordering this non sense.

 

[Danny101]

Given the mitigations, testing, infection rates, and deaths the flu is beating the snot out of the coronavirus. If anything draws the title of pandemic, it would seem that the flu would draw that distinction.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/health_policy/Provisional-Death-Counts-COVID-19-Pneumonia-and-Influenza.pdf

 

[Danny101]

Call me an a hole...

 

[Puiu]

It seems to me to be a virus designed to spread, but not necessarily kill. To spread fear. Some people immune systems are so close to the edge that it's enough to do so. Those who are most vulnerable to let's say the flu should take steps to protect themselves. The vulnerable should quarantine, not the healthy. The overarching point is that a dying economy helps nobody. The real worry is what the perps have in the pipeline. This was a warning.

Where the hell do you get your info? Not designed to kill?We are looking at double digits in Europe and "officially" almost 250k are dead worldwide in just a few months.

Just because China and the US are reporting fake numbers for political reasons doesn't mean that the virus isn't deadly. FYI out of the 1.2mil infected in the US only a small percentage are declared cured. ~2000 people died in the US in the last 24 hours.

People who say that the virus isn't deadly are just intentionally turning their back on what is happening in front of them.

And stop saying "the healthy". You are healthy only until you get infected, just like 20k ppl did in the US in the last 24 hours.

Also... stop comparing this to the flu. You are irresponsible at best by doing so and intentionally trying to get people killed at worst.

 

[Danny101]

It's called comparative analysis.

5 Million Cases Worldwide, 650,000 Deaths Annually: The Seasonal Flu Virus is a "Serious Concern", But the Wuhan Coronavirus Grabs the Headlines - Global Research

First published on January 27, 2020, this article is of relevance to an understanding of recent developments including the so-called Second Wave. The similarity of the symptoms of Covid-19 and seasonal influenza was known and documented from the very outset, reported in numerous peer reviewed...

www.globalresearch.ca

 

[Puiu]

Given the mitigations, testing, infection rates, and deaths the flu is beating the snot out of the coronavirus. If anything draws the title of pandemic, it would seem that the flu would draw that distinction.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/health_policy/Provisional-Death-Counts-COVID-19-Pneumonia-and-Influenza.pdf

Those numbers mean nothing when the weekly numbers in those charts for covid19 are now reported almost daily.

Just a few days that chart was made the US reported 4.5k dead over 24 hours on 17 of april. Almost 14k died in the past week alone, more than the total you are seeing in that table there.

In the end you proved that people should not listen to naysayers since they try to fool others with such shameful tactics.

 

[Danny101]

Where the hell do you get your info? Not designed to kill?We are looking at double digits in Europe and "officially" almost 250k are dead worldwide in just a few months.

Just because China and the US are reporting fake numbers for political reasons doesn't mean that the virus isn't deadly. FYI out of the 1.2mil infected in the US only a small percentage are declared cured. ~2000 people died in the US in the last 24 hours.

People who say that the virus isn't deadly are just intentionally turning their back on what is happening in front of them.

And stop saying "the healthy". You are healthy only until you get infected, just like 20k ppl did in the US in the last 24 hours.

Also... stop comparing this to the flu. You are irresponsible at best by doing so and intentionally trying to get people killed at worst.

The flu is simply more damaging, yet our response to it is completely different. Raw data. No spin.

 

[mailpup]

Back on topic please.

 

[Shadowboxer]

Loads of comments saying that Elon musk is stupid. Yeah ok then.

The stupid people are those who genuinely believe lockdowns are a good strategy.

 

[Mr Majestyk]

About 380M in the US by 2050 and 430M by 2100. 600M seems not to be for a very long time, if ever.

95% confidence level projections for the world are 9-10B by 2050 and 9.5-13B by 2100. You're going to be waiting a while.

330M already, your number are optimistic unless this pandemic does us a favour.

 

[captaincranky]

Loads of comments saying that Elon musk is stupid. Yeah ok then.

No, Musk isn't stupid, most sociopaths aren't.

Musk is the very best at his chosen profession, which is talking people out of their money.

He dropped out of college after the first year of physics study.. So, he knows enough to have the patter, but not nearly enough to innovate anything he hasn't read in a sci-fi comic book on his own.

His presentation of himself is that of the world's "new savior", which he certainly isn't.

I've seen bumper stickers saying, "god is my copilot", which is debatable at the very least. But if you drive a Tesla, with all the telemetry those turds have, you better believe Elon Musk is your copilot.

In the meantime, concentrate on how badly Google Facebook, and M$ are "invading your privacy", it'll take you mind off the fact your car is doing exactly the same thing.Should the "auto-pilot" screw up, Tesla has the data, (fudged or otherwise), to place full blame on the driver. And Tesla has a way bigger soapbox than you.

With respect to the actual topic,Musk will be flying overhead in his 70 million dollar jet plane, while you're on the bus with the rest of the plebeian Covid19 victims. He can afford to run his mouth about loosening restrictions on other people, since he more than likely isn't in any danger himself.

 

[Lew Zealand]

330M already, your number are optimistic unless this pandemic does us a favour.

It doesn't matter whether the US has 330M or 430M today. What really matters is the rate of change, the growth rate. Current growth rates and the year on year changes in that growth rate put the US at about 380M in 2050 and 430M in 2100.

 

[Lew Zealand]

It's called comparative analysis.

5 Million Cases Worldwide, 650,000 Deaths Annually: The Seasonal Flu Virus is a "Serious Concern", But the Wuhan Coronavirus Grabs the Headlines - Global Research

First published on January 27, 2020, this article is of relevance to an understanding of recent developments including the so-called Second Wave. The similarity of the symptoms of Covid-19 and seasonal influenza was known and documented from the very outset, reported in numerous peer reviewed...

www.globalresearch.ca

Quoting only the highest numbers and not the range is a great scare tactic, used there by a non-health website to forward their opinion. Try this instead:

"between 291,000 and 646,000 people worldwide die from seasonal influenza-related respiratory illnesses each year" https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2017/p1213-flu-death-estimate.html

300K to 650K over the whole year for flu. Currently at 240K dead from covid-19 from less than 2 months of widespread exposure, with lockdowns which don't happen for the flu.

That's why Musk's opinions are nuts.

 

[wiyosaya]

There is yet another aspect to this story. At the same news conference where Musky pretends to be a health expert, he said that he thinks Tesla's shares are over-valued. Tesla's stock proceeded to tank.
https://techxplore.com/news/2020-05-tesla-musk-stock-overvalued.html

I wonder if this will bring yet another corrective action down upon Musky's head from the SEC for violating their mutually agreed upon terms.

As I see it, this just goes to show that Musky is not only clueless about COVID-19, he's also clueless about other things, too.

 

[captaincranky]

There is yet another aspect to this story. At the same news conference where Musky pretends to be a health expert, he said that he thinks Tesla's shares are over-valued. Tesla's stock proceeded to tank.

No, he put it "on sale".

If the stock "tanked" as you say, the drop in price is the same as offering dish soap", "on salr for a limited time only". All you have to do to break even, is sell enough bottles to cover the discount percentage. At face value, this is jusk Musk tasking a tack to talk more people out of their money. Realistically, the dish soap seller has to manufacturer enough extra product to meet the increased demand.

But, I seriously doubt that Wall Street is "going to run out of Tesla stock". So, the drop in price fuels speculation, which in turn would increase the number of prospective buyers/bargain hunters. Which is basic math, since if the stock dropped 10%, you only need 11 buyers instead of 10, to make up the dollar shortfall.

As for the total investor pool, they'll be a little butt hurt by the loss in value of their shers, but the vast majority will still hold onto it, because, "they're certain it will come back up".

I wonder if this will bring yet another corrective action down upon Musky's head from the SEC for violating their mutually agreed upon terms.

We can only hope and pray that will happen. Musk is at best, "a bad little boy", seeing how much he can get away with before mommy spanks him.

As I see it, this just goes to show that Musky is not only clueless about COVID-19, he's also clueless about other things, too.

Clueless about Covid19, definitely. But "clueless about stock market manipulation, not hardly.

 

[wiyosaya]

No, he put it "on sale".

If the stock "tanked" as you say, the drop in price is the same as offering dish soap", "on salr for a limited time only". All you have to do to break even, is sell enough bottles to cover the discount percentage. At face value, this is jusk Musk tasking a tack to talk more people out of their money. Realistically, the dish soap seller has to manufacturer enough extra product to meet the increased demand.

But, I seriously doubt that Wall Street is "going to run out of Tesla stock". So, the drop in price fuels speculation, which in turn would increase the number of prospective buyers/bargain hunters. Which is basic math, since if the stock dropped 10%, you only need 11 buyers instead of 10, to make up the dollar shortfall.

As for the total investor pool, they'll be a little butt hurt by the loss in value of their shers, but the vast majority will still hold onto it, because, "they're certain it will come back up".

We can only hope and pray that will happen. Musk is at best, "a bad little boy", seeing how much he can get away with before mommy spanks him.

Clueless about Covid19, definitely. But "clueless about stock market manipulation, not hardly.

While I think it obvious that we share an advanced level of disdain for Musky, I just cannot find myself giving him any significant amount of credit for knowing what he is doing.

Like another public figure, I think Musky has repeatedly proven himself neither stable, nor a genius.

However, Musky more reminds me of Wylie E. Coyote

Bumbling about with an eye on that bird he has to catch, he seems to spend all his time devising evil plans, ordering the requisite equipment from Acme (because he does not have the resources to build it himself) then runs himself off the cliff because he failed to realize that the cliff was directly in front of him.

I think that applies not only to COVID-19, but to his day-to-day gaseous release of ideas from various bodily orifices. Flatulence by any other name still smells as bad and takes no intelligence to emit.

 

[Karlos95]

I suppose you all prefer the advice from this billionaire who is awfully happy...

Yep. Everyone here is delusional if they are against elon (trying to make the world a better place or trying to save us from failure ie mars) but they believe the billionaire gates who is trying to inject poisons into everyone for his bank account to get larger than it already is.
Not woke at all.

 

[Athlonite]

Could be worse they (the Govt) could just have easily called for Martial Law but no they gave you (The U.S. Citizen) the chance to do the right thing yourselves but you dumb asses can't even be trusted to do that without moaning n groanin that your civil liberties are being curtailed well better that than dead isn't it