Social England riots: Government mulls social media controls

Benny26

TechSpot Paladin
The government's just brought in a US "top cop" to try and stem our gang culture.

Talk about a pie in the face.
 

Archean

TechSpot Paladin
A US cop? Hell they can't control their own country's gangs, let alone help any one else. :rolleyes:

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Igneus the Bold

Here's what irks me...saw this on the news. Some guy had gotten knocked down during a riot. A group of other guys came over to help him up and check on him. "Aww, that was nice" you may be thinking. But wait...while they were helping him up, another guy in the group was taking the guy's wallet out of his backpack. Once he got the wallet, the group just left. Poor kid saw it but there wasn't anything he could do...just him against 5 or 6 other guys. The guy who got the wallet was walking away holding it up in the air in a "oh yeah, check me out, I just stole this guy's wallet" type of manner. Made me sick.
I linked that exact video earlier in this thread. It is very frustrating to watch. It makes me want to go vigilante on their sorry arses. Too bad that kid wasn't packing a weapon instead of a wallet. Maybe he would have gotten to play Duck Hunt with all of those chumps.


A US cop? Hell they can't control their own country's gangs, let alone help any one else. :rolleyes:

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The crime rate in the U.S. is supposed to be one of the worst, if not THE worst, in the world.


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This is what I am saying about the monetary system. Everything is oligarchical when money is your god, and let's face it, money is the most prevalent idol on the face of the globe today. The monetary system is nothing more than a slightly advanced version of the original food chain model nature developed for us millions of years ago.

We cannot expect decent behavior out of the majority of people when they are being bombarded with data that reveals to them their own financial inadequacy on a daily basis. Those lacking a better moral example are bound to become criminals.
 

matrix86

TS Guru
I linked that exact video earlier in this thread
Oh, sorry about that. I didn't realize it was a link. And I see that Leeky also said something about it, just didn't realize it was the same thing. But hey, now I know that a backback is called a rucksack over in that territory, lol. Learn something new every day :p
 

Benny26

TechSpot Paladin
The guy who robbed that kid has been arrested and put in front of the courts, so good news there.
 

Archean

TechSpot Paladin
Cool, I hope that justice will be done, not only in this case but also involving all the other looters.
 
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Igneus the Bold

Oh, sorry about that. I didn't realize it was a link. And I see that Leeky also said something about it, just didn't realize it was the same thing. But hey, now I know that a backback is called a rucksack over in that territory, lol. Learn something new every day :p
No problem. I was just putting the reference in there for others.


The guy who robbed that kid has been arrested and put in front of the courts, so good news there.
GOOD. I say we strip him down, hang him upside down by his big toes and balls, and proceed to whip him with long strips of wet bamboo.
 

Benny26

TechSpot Paladin
GOOD. I say we strip him down, hang him upside down by his big toes and balls, and proceed to whip him with long strips of wet bamboo.
What kind of parties have you been going to? :haha:

But yeah, he'll most likely be made an example of considering he's now being viewed as a staple of what's wrong with British society.

Leeky said:
Shooting him would be better. :haha:
Holy smokes, I wouldn't like to live under your rule; The death sentence for stealing? Yikes! :D
 

Leeky

TS Evangelist
Holy smokes, I wouldn't like to live under your rule; The death sentence for stealing? Yikes! :D
The manner in which he did it was an absolute disgrace. Only a rapist, murderer, or sex offender is worse in my books.

But yeah, in reality its a harsh punishment... Maybe a proper hiding would be more suitable.
 
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Igneus the Bold

Whilst I fantasize about the methods employed by Di Renjie, logically I maintain the more civic views of one Carl Sagan. I cannot help but want to hurt him after seeing him behave as he did on that video, though I aspire to the contrary.

If I were in charge of his remuneration he would be thoroughly taught to emulate something or someone much more dignified, nothing more. If he proved incapable he would be segregated from society by whatever means deemed fair, ethical, and practical. I would not punish for the sake of my own satisfaction, if I could provide the will to deny my temptation. The scales of justice are blind and foolish at best. I think practicality is more sane for an attempt at a functional society, no matter how difficult the impulse toward a retributive affair.

I'll shush now. :blush:
 

Benny26

TechSpot Paladin
The manner in which he did it was an absolute disgrace. Only a rapist, murderer, or sex offender is worse in my books.

But yeah, in reality its a harsh punishment... Maybe a proper hiding would be more suitable.
I'll settle for a stiff prison sentence (in which he'll probably get a good hiding anyway). After all, this isn't Iraq or Iran.
 

Leeky

TS Evangelist
Last I heard they were overcrowded beyond capacity and we needed more prisons. So god only knows where all these people are going to go. They'll probably get a slap in the wrist once our media has its teeth into something else and the government are in the clear again.
 

Archean

TechSpot Paladin
How about sending them to Afghanistan ? I think it is just like sending someone to jail. ;)

On a more serious note, I would never support letting these people go without any punishment. But you are right, media usually have very short attention span, and once they find something new/more 'tabloidish' they simply forget about older stories.
 

Leeky

TS Evangelist
I think forced conscription for offenders is a way forward, but I'm no so sure if our military forces would suffer for this. Its hard, dangerous work especially for those deployed to "hot zones", and you need to trust those stood beside you.

Most our military are there because they want to be there, because they want to fight for our country, and for a bigger cause. You couldn't say that about people doing that as a punishment.

Losing a loved one because of conflict is bad enough, but to lose a loved one because they were forced to fight for something they wanted no part in would certainly open the doors to even more rioting and anarchy I feel.

I am however a great believer of second chances, and I do feel that some of these people could, and would benefit from the order and strictness of military service. It would also give them something worth believing in to fight for as well, so its a tough call. You can't change everyone, but I feel some could be transformed into better people given the right guidance.
 

Zilpha

TS Enthusiast
Sadly, it's in all of us. Look at some of the violent thoughts of retribution littered throughout this very thread. Sure, there is a difference between thinking something and acting on it, but violence starts with a simple thought that someone takes too far. We can't sit in judgment of those folks.


This is the problem with human society as a whole. We will never have enough, and, we will never stop. It's humiliating to be a part of a society that claims to be civilized, yet can act so ugly towards each other.
 

Benny26

TechSpot Paladin
Archean said:
Do you think that Mark Duggan was killed because he was black?
Personally, I find the "black" thing absolute rubbish. It always comes up when a black or asian person comes in contact with the police in some way where people feel there was "special circumstances". According to the IPCC (independent police complaints commission), he had a loaded gun...which obviously isn't good if you're standing in front of armed police.

There are plenty of white examples in the past: Leeky might remember a guy a good few years back in his 50s walking home with a chair leg in a carrier bag under his arm...They shot him, and no one played a racial card there (no riots followed either)