Flame virus created by U.S. and Israel sources say, Iran is target

By Rick ¬∑ 29 replies
Jun 20, 2012
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  1. The Washington Post reports that Flame, an extremely sophisticated virus which was first discovered in Iranian oil refineries, is the brainchild of U.S. and Israeli efforts to slow Iran's nuclear program. This information comes from several Western officials who purportedly…

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  2. Wow, sound like something out of an James Bond movie ! No wonder it was picked up, all the connections and uploads downloads....there had to be some logs somewhere...

    Nowadays with computers who needs James Bond, goverments just hack in and RDP! lol
  3. spydercanopus

    spydercanopus TS Evangelist Posts: 855   +121

    The US is a full blown tyranny against the world. When you require restriction of privacy and freedom to maintain your government, it's time to replace it. And the two-party dictatorship will never free us. We are the terrorists. 30,000 drones in the sky over the US should tell you who the enemy is.. us.
  4. I can't believe that they would attempt to stop Iran from producing Nuclear weapons that they would assuredly use 1st against Israel and 2nd against the USA.. .just can't believe it... .
  5. Ranger1st

    Ranger1st TS Evangelist Posts: 348   +124

    Really? the crap going on in that part of the world that's being supported by Iran and this is the big news story out of there?? holy crap what a bunch of myopic individuals involved in breaking this story. As a former soldier I am all for anything that could stop a siltation that would otherwise take soldiers to accomplish. Oh and 'spider' your a ****-wallet.STFU, as bad as it is in the USA, it's far better then what most people deal with in the mid-east.
  6. I agree.
  7. I agree with Spyder.
  8. The worst day in the US is better than the best day in a foreign nation. People in poverty in the US live a higher quality of life than people in poverty in other countries.
  9. @Ranger1st,

    "myopic individuals" ...nice. I truly mean that..no sarcasm intended. I for one want to thank you for your service and all you do and have done for this country. Point well stated. Thank you soldier :)
  10. I agree with the spyder, couldn't have said it better. The reason for all this trouble around the world today is the US and Israels behavior past and present. and the means they are taking to rectify them are only making the problem worse.
  11. The real issue is fear, people fear because they do not know. Because they don't know they try to control. This just induces more fear and the back and forth cycles of our way vs their way continues throughout time. The only solution is Love, Love of others, of self, of all. So simple but yet to requires commitment and letting go of fear, which many are not ready to do, so they will continue and play the game. Peace must come from the individual then to society and then to all.
  12. MilwaukeeMike

    MilwaukeeMike TS Evangelist Posts: 2,886   +1,222

    This comment is so off-the-wall crazy it's hard to believe it's not a troll. A computer virus is probably the most peaceful, easiest, and safest way to stop a dictatorship from building a weapon they've already promised to use on Israel. Last time we invaded Iraq, was that a better strategy?

    Thanks for your service, Ranger.

    We know what you'd prefer. Nothing. Stick you fingers in your ears and yell about how the country that provides the freedom for you to spread your nonsense is the oppressor.
  13. It's humorous to see people agree with "Spyder", first off...30,000 drones in the US sky? That alone should show your lack of intelligence on the matter. And a tyranny against the world? We also save more lives than any country in the world with both physically support and technological advances. We'll never be "free" because people take advantage of any freedom we get, then abuse it. For instance, our police are deemed "bullies" yet do you see out of control riots anywhere? Nope. Are sports games mobbed and taken over by the fans? Nope.

    Maybe, good sir, you should have some cheese with your whine.
  14. thought criminal
  15. a virus to stop iranian nuclear program? how? by triggering a cascade reaction on the core and blowing it up? by shutdown it down so they cant use it?...

    well if you think about it... only by blowing it up causing a nuclear explosion will solve their problems... because everything else is posponing the inevitable..
  16. the propaganda appears to be working
  17. Tygerstrike

    Tygerstrike TS Enthusiast Posts: 827   +93


    OMMFG!! Your stupidity astounds me. You sit there and post your drivel ONLINE! Are you sitting there in your mommies basement in your underware? I cant believe there are still mouth breathers like you still around, figuring that natural selection and your own innate inability to do anything but eat cheesy poofs and mountain dew, would have killed you off by now. Ladies and Gentlemen I present to you SPIDER!!! Future wack job that will begging change off you while wearing his tin foil hat!

    Ranger youre right. ANY action that doesnt put ppls lives in danger, especially our soilders, is an act that should be supported. So a virus slows down and possibly stops a country from possibly creating WMD. GREAT!!! No one gets hurt, no foreign aid needs to be sent. No Americans needed to die. Sounds like a win/win for the world there.

    Spider get your head out of the sand......or is it still firmly up your rump?
  18. stewi0001

    stewi0001 TS Evangelist Posts: 1,681   +1,079

    as technology changes, warfare changes
  19. spydercanopus

    spydercanopus TS Evangelist Posts: 855   +121

    The middle east was a far better place before we stomped our boot on it. After 9/11, if you remember, Osama Bin Laden said their plan was to entangle the US in endless wars, restrict our freedoms, and bankrupt us. Now we're in endless wars, the middle east hates us more than ever, we're about to be bankrupt, and yet you want to give up your freedoms? What exactly are we even supposed to be fighting for? Who is the enemy? What flag do they fly? I do business with people from Iran, and they're nice people. They want to make a nuke? Nope. But if they did, then so what? Israel would (and probably will anyway) wipe them off the map. It'd be suicide. Pakistan has hundred of nukes and you're not scared of them? I think what we have here is a bunch of scared little girls who wet themselves when they see someone different. Turn off the TV news. 30,000 armed drones coming to the US. Google it.
  20. These tools are so eff'n blind, Spyder! They are all SHEEP!
  21. Drones for the drones!
  22. Dear Spyder,

    I'm sure your Iranian friends at the 7/11 aren't planning to build a nuke. Also, the Pakistani's don't have hundreds, only about one hundred, and god knows how many are actually active. Furthermore, these Pakistani nukes probably wouldn't fly far or accurate enough to leave their immediate neighbors. You might not like the things that the US govt. does, but I for one don't care. There's a reason why habib and his slurpee friends will never take us down, we're number one at everything that matters. Money, power, and politics. Oh, and if you want to see a real nuke you can google this ****.
  23. A few obvious points...

    Working with nice people from Iran who don't want to make a nuke has nothing to do with whether Iran wants to. The people of Iran likely don't want a big war with the US and Israel either, and might see possessing nuclear arms as a key piece of that objective. All the same, no one I know or have read thinks anything but good about the *people* of Iran. Who live under a radical, religious and brutal regime based on some seriously kooky notions of freedom. If you are going to freak about loss of freedom in the US...why act like things would be great around the world if only America would leave them alone. Do you think freedom would increase or decrease under dictatorships and monarchies in the Middle East?

    Israel is a tiny country which could be messed up badly by minimal nuclear attack while Iran is waaaaaaaay harder to clean from the map even with nukes. Israel blows up reactors and writes viruses BECAUSE the last thing they want is a nuclear arms race much less a situation where nukes are actually used. And the reason THEY have nukes? Oh, maybe all the talk about wiping them off the map and experience with invasion, suicide bombers and rocket attacks caused them to pursue the course. And slowing down Iran's ability to provoke the standoff you imagine seems to be a lot more peaceful than leaving it to a country you find to be horrible at doing 'good' to counter it militarily. Why would you want those nice people you do business with threatened by such a future?

    And not the final refuting point but pretty plainly silly on your part is the strawman that no one is afraid of Pakistan. They(we) are. The west and Pakistan have a tenuous peace but no one thinks they're our buddy past where they find us to be useful to their own ends. I don't suppose you think those drone attacks would be happening there without the government of Pakistan allowing them. Nevertheless If you find Pakistan to be a malevolent power to be holding nukes you must surely see that once a country HAS nukes they are much more immune to anyone who might try to constrain their ability to threaten their neighbors than when they are developing them. Buying your premise, wouldn't you have sought to delay Pakistan in their bid to become a nuclear wielding nation?

    And you're probably correct about drones being in use(30,000 is silly)in the US since they are cheap and don't cost human lives when they are lost. That's hardly the first threat to privacy in the US nor would I expect that trend to abate if foreign policy suddenly became all the things you think it should be.
  24. spydercanopus

    spydercanopus TS Evangelist Posts: 855   +121

    That's the exact same attitude the Germans had. And it lead to 60 million deaths. They were socialists, too. Just like Obamney.
  25. spydercanopus

    spydercanopus TS Evangelist Posts: 855   +121

    It's called "blowback". It's a term coined by our CIA.

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