Google just lost its final appeal over Android, $4.7 billion EU fine stands

[dangh]

Well, facts are facts. Go do the research yourself. Quality of life? You don't want to go there.

Remember pal, the keyboard your typing on, the cell phone you use everyday, electricity and nearly every other modern invention came courtesy of America. We are the most prosperous and industrious nation on earth second to none.

The only reason folks outside of America have a raised standard for quality of life is because of America. We have the highest quality of life here in the world bar none - regardless of any lying media or polls or whatever BS you're seeing. That's why most of the world wants to move here. I don't see the hoards clamoring to get into any other countries?

;D you read way too much propaganda. Or maybe just victim of your education system

 

[The Talking Tech]

"The short answer is that the €4.12 billion (~$4.7 billion) doesn't go to the companies Google boxed out, nor does it go into a pool for everyday Android users. Instead, it goes directly into the general budget of the European Union."

Do you really think that the $ from this fine will "produce positive changes" when it isn't at all targeted toward the problem or toward those hurt by Google's practices?

At this point I don't care if the money goes to another thief, what matters is that a big corporation is getting tremendously fined by getting caught for doing something they shouldn't have.

 

[Puiu]

"The short answer is that the €4.12 billion (~$4.7 billion) doesn't go to the companies Google boxed out, nor does it go into a pool for everyday Android users. Instead, it goes directly into the general budget of the European Union."

Do you really think that the $ from this fine will "produce positive changes" when it isn't at all targeted toward the problem or toward those hurt by Google's practices?

Yes, because the EU Budget also covers company investments, especially for digitalization and start-ups. I'm thinking of trying to see if I can an EU investment for my own company, but that will take a lot of planning and work to get done. It's not easy to do

 

[Puiu]

Don't know much about laws and legal systems do you? Ever hear of the EU Parliment and their retro-active laws? If they don't like something, they pass new laws to dig into the "past violations". It's a COMPLETE joke and pure, unaltered extortion.

I beg to differ. The only ones doing "extortions" are the monopolies and duopolies that control key markets and think that the laws and rules don't apply to them and that human lives are below junk. It's complete joke and the EU needs to do more to combat this blatant blackmail by corporations that actively try to hurt competition and consumers. Defending these corporations makes absolutely no logical sense.

 

[ActualViking]

Well, facts are facts. Go do the research yourself. Quality of life? You don't want to go there.

Remember pal, the keyboard your typing on, the cell phone you use everyday, electricity and nearly every other modern invention came courtesy of America. We are the most prosperous and industrious nation on earth second to none.

The only reason folks outside of America have a raised standard for quality of life is because of America. We have the highest quality of life here in the world bar none - regardless of any lying media or polls or whatever BS you're seeing. That's why most of the world wants to move here. I don't see the hoards clamoring to get into any other countries?

You're funny. I know you don't want to be funny, but you're ignorance and blind trust in US propaganda is almost sweet.

Since you insist on not wanting to see facts, then by all means stay in your bubble. Meanwhile the rest of us will go on enjoying our better quality of life, since doing so thankfully doesn't depend on what some ignorant dude thinks.

Should you wake up and want to enlighten your self, then try looking into the World happiness index, the concept of work/life balance, universal health care, free education, a society without corruption, schools that doesn't need drills about active shooters, news media that isn't biased entertainment but actual news...

 

[sreams]

Yes, because the EU Budget also covers company investments, especially for digitalization and start-ups. I'm thinking of trying to see if I can an EU investment for my own company, but that will take a lot of planning and work to get done. It's not easy to do

I doubt that part of the budget varies based on fine revenues. They are likely not connected in any way.

 

[Puiu]

I doubt that part of the budget varies based on fine revenues. They are likely not connected in any way.

It's the amount that countries pay that is reduced. That's how it's connected.

 

[sreams]

Are yo

It's the amount that countries pay that is reduced. That's how it's connected.

Are you saying that when revenues from fines increase, taxes are lowered?

 

[BadThad]

I beg to differ. The only ones doing "extortions" are the monopolies and duopolies that control key markets and think that the laws and rules don't apply to them and that human lives are below junk. It's complete joke and the EU needs to do more to combat this blatant blackmail by corporations that actively try to hurt competition and consumers. Defending these corporations makes absolutely no logical sense.

And defending big, onerous government makes even less sense. Enjoy your massively over-regulated EU and high prices.

 

[Endymio]

Bravo!!!!

Finally a penalty that can produce some positive changes!

Anyone who believes this will generate "positive change" for consumers shouldn't be allowed outside without professional supervision. In fact, this case shows the self-absorbed idiocy of earlier EU anti-trust action against Microsoft for their "unbreakable browser monopoly", which dissolved overnight -- not from government regulators, but the inexorable march of technology.

I beg to differ. The only ones doing "extortions" are the monopolies and duopolies that control key markets

Learn what words mean. Extortion requires force, violence, or threats thereof. Despite what those voices in your head are saying, no Uzi-toting Google employees will visit you if you fail to use Chrome .... but heavily armed goverment agents **will** visit Google if they refuse to pay this fine.

 

[BadThad]

;D you read way too much propaganda. Or maybe just victim of your education system

I have an science degree from a major university. How far have you gone in the education system?

Anyone who believes this will generate "positive change" for consumers shouldn't be allowed outside without professional supervision. In fact, this case shows the self-absorbed idiocy of earlier EU anti-trust action against Microsoft for their "unbreakable browser monopoly", which dissolved overnight -- not from government regulators, but the inexorable march of technology.


Learn what words mean. Extortion requires force, violence, or threats thereof. Despite what those voices in your head are saying, no Uzi-toting Google employees will visit you if you fail to use Chrome .... but heavily armed goverment agents **will** visit Google if they refuse to pay this fine.

Instead sharing the EU booty with the people, they are far more apt to apply a new tax for their "services rendered" in going after these "evil corporations". Keep cheering the EU bureaucrat extortionists, not long before the companies get smart and ditch the entirety of the EU! Let's see how that works out for them when access to all this glorious AMERICAN tech goes away for good. Perhaps the EU can call China? LOL

 

[Puiu]

And defending big, onerous government makes even less sense. Enjoy your massively over-regulated EU and high prices.

It makes perfect sense when the EU is protecting me. What makes zero sense is protecting companies that you know that they are f-ing you 24/7

Why do you like to be personally destroyed by these companies so much? And I'm asking seriously.

"high prices" - as if letting monopolies alone will bring down prices. this makes even less sense. in fact it's just dumb to do.

 

[BadThad]

It makes perfect sense when the EU is protecting me. What makes zero sense is protecting companies that you know that they are f-ing you 24/7

Why do you like to be personally destroyed by these companies so much? And I'm asking seriously.

"high prices" - as if letting monopolies alone will bring down prices. this makes even less sense. in fact it's just dumb to do.

Your faith in government is misguided, they don't even know who you are and they don't care except as another source of revenue for their coffers.

And I'm asking "seriously": No company is f-ing me 24/7, why the hell would I do business with such a company? Do you have a gun to your head forcing your to use various companies products and services? In the USA we don't, we have FREEDOM to chose the products and services we pay for. If we think we're getting screwed, we drop it, SIMPLE.

 

[Puiu]

Your faith in government is misguided, they don't even know who you are and they don't care except as another source of revenue for their coffers.

And I'm asking "seriously": No company is f-ing me 24/7, why the hell would I do business with such a company? Do you have a gun to your head forcing your to use various companies products and services? In the USA we don't, we have FREEDOM to chose the products and services we pay for. If we think we're getting screwed, we drop it, SIMPLE.

I don't need "faith", I'm just objectively stating facts. do you dislike facts? I do not care at all about your conspiracy theories and dislike of governments in general.

"we have FREEDOM to chose the products and services we pay for." - no you don't. you are living in an illusion where companies pay the US government to look away from the BS they are doing to you, and with trump this amplified 10 fold. this is how your laws operate.

"No company is f-ing me 24/7" - yes they do, this is an objective observation of the facts. you just accept it as being "normal" for them to f you up.

 

[BadThad]

I don't need "faith", I'm just objectively stating facts. do you dislike facts? I do not care at all about your conspiracy theories and dislike of governments in general.

"we have FREEDOM to chose the products and services we pay for." - no you don't. you are living in an illusion where companies pay the US government to look away from the BS they are doing to you, and with trump this amplified 10 fold. this is how your laws operate.

"No company is f-ing me 24/7" - yes they do, this is an objective observation of the facts. you just accept it as being "normal" for them to f you up.

I don't know about you but in the US, we are not forced to buy ANY product or service, it's completely voluntary. If we're getting "screwed" as you contend, we simple cancel the service or return the item and wash our hands of it.

I'm sorry you live in a country were you have no choice and are forced to buy products and services that suck. It's not a system I would want to live under. I'm also sorry you live in a country with a weak leader, hopefully he learns something from Trump.

 

[Puiu]

I don't know about you but in the US, we are not forced to buy ANY product or service, it's completely voluntary. If we're getting "screwed" as you contend, we simple cancel the service or return the item and wash our hands of it.

I'm sorry you live in a country were you have no choice and are forced to buy products and services that suck. It's not a system I would want to live under. I'm also sorry you live in a country with a weak leader, hopefully he learns something from Trump.

Ah yes, the "cancel" the monopoly strategy that you seem to think is possible for everybody

"If we're getting "screwed" as you contend" - I don't contend, it's a known fact. The whole world agrees on this. Compared to the EU, the consumer protection laws in the US are a joke. Kinda like how the employee protection laws are a joke too --> everything is for the benefit of companies, not individuals.

What do you want to learn from trump? How to bankrupt a company or the country? How to be a racist? How to commit fraud? How to scam people? How to rape and molest women? How to become a pedophile? These are all things we know he did.