Google questioned about Project Glass, yet again

By David Tom · 26 replies
Jun 19, 2013
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  1. In move that probably surprises no one, Google has once again faced scrutiny for Project Glass, the company’s attempt at making wearable technology a ‘thing’. This time, the search-giant received a letter sent by ten government privacy and data protection...

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  2. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,738   +3,706

    They are only concerned for their own privacy, they couldn't care less about anyone else's privacy. They would like to use Google Glass behind closed doors, but can't chance any secretes getting out.
  3. MilwaukeeMike

    MilwaukeeMike TS Evangelist Posts: 2,890   +1,224

    I think it's an important conversation to have, but it reminds of something I read in WIRED once. There was an article about why some new technologies scared people and other new tech didn't. They found it came down to whether the new tech was personal in some way. So e-commerce scared us at first, but streaming movies didn't. Glass definitely falls into the personal technology category, and that means we're going to be wary of it at first... like having a strange dog in the house. You gotta keep one eye on it until you're sure it's house trained.
  4. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,738   +3,706

    That is ironic seeing as Google glass is only designed for one eye. :)
  5. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 13,031   +2,558

    So then maybe you should put your Google Glass on, and give the dog "stink eye" with it, when you see him starting to squat?

    I hear the next generation of Google Glass is going to have a "spank ray" in it, which will hit with the force of a half dozen rolled up newspapers.*nerd*

    Supposedly, all seven dwarfs will be wearing that model in the upcoming NC-17 release of, "Snow White, But not for Long"....:oops:
  6. VitalyT

    VitalyT Russ-Puss Posts: 3,670   +1,960

    Geordi La Forge is shaking in his custom-made boots...

    Wearing these I would be concerned to forget one day it is on me and walk into a john while video feed is on, broadcasting online or in a video conference...

    And true, seeing this thing on somebody on the street makes you first think you are being recorded on video, and nobody is going to like that. The first person taking a beating for that will make all the PR that Google will need to pull it out...
  7. Skidmarksdeluxe

    Skidmarksdeluxe TS Evangelist Posts: 8,647   +3,274

    I'd love to stroll about inside the Pentagon & the NSA offices all day with these things on & in recording mode. I wonder if any of the officials will object.
  8. adamaant

    adamaant TS Rookie

    We are a paranoid society. And as they say, just because you are paranoid doesn't mean that everyone isn't out to get you. That said, people tend to want to conform to social cues and etiquette. When I see a tourist (looking) person on the street filming family, buildings or landmarks I don't automatically assume they are going to invade my privacy. I also don't think that the guy standing next to me at the urinal could be secretly recording me. Will some nut jobs do inappropriate things with these devices? Probably, but the concern people have over it far out ways the actual threat. If I see someone wearing one on the street, I would assume he was using it for directions, or other tasks the device is intended for. Larry Page has it right. It's just not going to, or very very rarely happen that people will invade another person's privacy. As for what Google does with information collected, that's an important issue. I suggest that it's not much different than the already collect with cell phones now.
  9. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 13,031   +2,558

    Google, (and other search engines), have already collected information far beyond that which is tasteful. They're a major intrusion on people's lives. Whether, it's jamming their cameras in your front door with "Street View", offering you a free browser that tracks your every internet move, or reading your Email to "offer your the benefit of targeted ads", they are straight up, flat out, out of control. They know more than the government about us. And now they want to equip John Q. Public with a built in privacy invasion nightmare. First time somebody points this Google Glass s*** at me, I'm calling the police.
  10. adamaant

    adamaant TS Rookie

    Yet they do all this distasteful data collection within the laws of this country. We as a people are a democracy and elect lawmakers that can respond to your concerns. If enough of them are elected to pass additional privacy laws some of these issues could be resolved for you. Unfortunately for those that have minority opinions, it's hard to legislate unpopular policy. So, you are left with one option. Don't use their service, or use the "incognito" mode that is provided to erase your tracks. The fact is, there are a lot of options you have as a consumer. Another is posting on a forum like this which might have some (however small) influence on the opinions of others. I personally believe meta-data is fairly harmless when collected. It just means that ads that I see will likely be more relevant to me. Oh by the way, unless Glass is illegal in your area, the police could in fact issue you a citation for calling them.
  11. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,738   +3,706

    Only if they ignore a few of the laws.
  12. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 13,031   +2,558

    You betcha! It's also been said that, "a fool and his money are soon parted company". On the veracity of that, "targeted ads" are simply Google trolling for fools
    Well, it is true that you have little expectation of privacy in a public area. Even less so in the commission of a crime. However surveillance cameras are in a fixed position and generally survey a specific public area. If you walk into that area and do something you don't want to be caught at, just do it someplace else, or suffer the possible consequences..

    In the case of Google Glass, the surveillance IS following you. There are laws against stalking. Which is what I'd claim should I be given that ticket.
  13. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 13,031   +2,558

    Oh really? You seem to be modifying your opinion to suit the topic. After all the railing you've done about the evils of PRISM, now it's excusable the Google shoves it's nose into every corner of your life? Who do you think one of the places is the NSA goes to when it wants to know something?

    Perhaps this is a technicality, but what the NSA has done so far, isn't illegal either. So, rejoice in that.
  14. adamaant

    adamaant TS Rookie

  15. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,738   +3,706

    Since I haven't been making myself clear, then there is no need in trying further.
  16. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 13,031   +2,558

    Oh really. Then I suggest you take your camera to a well patrolled beach and point it at whoever strikes your fancy. I guarantee the before long you might have to explain that you aren't a pedophile or worse.

    Try not to make such sweeping statements, you never know what story the second party is likely to tell.

    Another thing to consider is this. In this day and age people take and upload pictures all the time that are embarrassing to the person photographed. The onus seems to be one the injured party to have that junk removed. I suppose you could copyright your face up front and sue if that happens, but just imagine the time, money, and further issues it would bring about in your life.

    Good, we have a consensus.

    Much of what Telecoms and search engines are doing today is technically illegal. What gets them by is pop culture has come to expect certain things.

    I like to point this out; when AT&T was broken up, one of the reasons was the fact it was illegal for a person to own their own phone. You had to pay perennial rent for for a technology you were never allowed to own.

    Fast forward to 2013. you expect to rent your "smartphone", and have a contract that doesn't really separate the phone rental charges and usage charges. So, for all intents and purposes, it's an end run around existing laws.

    The Telecoms have a ton of lobbyists, and I suspect that you're not one of them.
  17. adamaant

    adamaant TS Rookie

    I'm sure you are right, but the point is, most people don't take pictures of strangers at the beach. They take pictures of their family or loved ones. You have a very low opinion of people in general if you think everyone at the beach with a camera is a pervert. Seriously, there is such a thing as societal norms, and most folks abide them. You can find all kinds of weirdos out there. They are the ones already hiding cameras.
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  18. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 13,031   +2,558

    All I'm saying is that there are situational differences, that can't be painted with as wide as brush as you suppose. Something that is as ostensibly "legal" as you suggest,can turn into something else entirely, predicated on the very norms you suggest exist.

    Studies have been done that show the automobile is responsible for altering the personality of its driver.

    I suspect the other toys in our lives, perhaps in smaller part, are capable of doing the same.

    There is a certain voyeuristic aspect of Google Glass, that may exhibit its strongest pull to the most voyeuristic among us. Time will tell, I suppose
  19. adamaant

    adamaant TS Rookie

  20. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 13,031   +2,558

    adamaant, Would you please try to get a handle on quoting correctly? I'll argue all day and night, but I will try and get the form right for you.

    LEDs huh? Savor this quote from a 50 year old Rolling Stones ditty, "I see a red door and I want it painted black"..

    So, the red LED covers Google's butt, right?
  21. adamaant

    adamaant TS Rookie

    I declare that I shouldn't have to know HTML to reply to someone's post! Sorry. I'll figure it out eventually.
  22. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 13,031   +2,558

    I don't understand how you're getting your response inside my post by accident. I can do it on purpose though and I don't know the first thing about HTML...:confused:

    That last entry was perfect though....;)
  23. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 7,188   +470

    It's not an HTML thing. :) HTML isn't even supported in these forums.
  24. adamaant

    adamaant TS Rookie

    I promise to be more careful in the future.
  25. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 13,031   +2,558

    So we're dropping it now? ;)

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