At this point I fear that PC gaming is dead.DIY PC building is dead.
Mine is doing a great job....even on Cyberpunk. I'm more interested in decent gameplay than fancy graphics anyway (minus Cyberpunk! )My GTX 1060 6gb soldiers on....
Scalpers or AMD/NVIDIA is just the same, profiting from people`s misfortune.
This whole thing is a great demonstration of how hard issues are to solve if you don't want to solve them. NV and AMD will obviously say they're sooooo sorry, there's not much else they could say. But the reality of it is that they COULDN'T CARE LESS who buys their products and for what price. The business is rolling, anything else is negligible.
What to do if you ACTUALLY wanna solve this? Well, how about create a central B2C programme where every customer can purchase ONE card per YEAR. From ALL vendors in the programme IN TOTAL. One. Per year. Not month, year. Sane people don't replace their GPUs every month, so that monthly restriction at certain places is a laugh in itself. In fact, sane people only replace their GPUs like every 3 years TOPS, if they get the hot new thing with every generation.
Now, it wouldn't be mandatory for OEMs to join the programme, but obviously they'd risk being labelled as scalper vendors or something, And the programme would have KYC video calls to ensure the customer is legit. Like money institutions, for example.
Aaand that's about it. It worked for Sony w/ PlayStation Direct, I don't see why it wouldn't work for NV/AMD. And their Direct is even more lenient than what I've described here.
Sorry, dude, I can't believe you defend scalping. Scalping should be a fellony, it's not "supply and demand", it's an intermediary who swindles people out of their money and that's what I said, profiting from a crisis, profiting of people's misfortune and in fact, destabilizing a market by amplifying supply issues.Being the advocate of the devil.....
Why are they profiting from the misfortune of other people?
It basically is a matter of demand and supply... High demand, high prices.
I think Covid also has to do something with it...
For the record: Since more than a year now I'm trying to buy to buy a graphics card (at 'normal' prices), but no luck so far.
However I could buy one, if I'm willing to pay a lot of money. (demand and supply)
They tried it this way, people lined up and created self managed mobs, scalpers would just pay/use homeless people to wait in line for them, people were getting into fights, I think people got stabbed even. Honestly it was probably worse publicity than this new scandal, the sad reality is there is no easy solution other than what has already been mentioned by bviktor, it's extreme but would actually work, so long as it applies in your country. The PlayStation Direct program doesn't seem to apply to Canada...All these terrible "fixes" to get past scalpers, when there's an easy fix staring at them.
just sell them from the store, make people come to the store, buy ONE, you dont a dozen cards, their name and card info are logged in the system(and name still works if paying with cash), boom done.
I know I know, it wont work because companies love making money no matter what, people are lazy, and this would be unfair to those who cant leave their home for some reason(hope they have friends) or they live way out in the boonies.
but what is the point of all these brick stores if they dont keep any ACTUAL inventory, may as well tear em down.
He explicitly stated he was "playing devil's advocate," it was a thought exercise people used to engage in before the internet made the planet insane.Sorry, dude, I can't believe you defend scalping. Scalping should be a fellony, it's not "supply and demand", it's an intermediary who swindles people out of their money and that's what I said, profiting from a crisis, profiting of people's misfortune and in fact, destabilizing a market by amplifying supply issues.
It was a nightmare here locally. When they had one of those releases at a store. It would be the one store nobody ever heard of 2 hours away from anything, and you have to somehow preregister with information that was never shared. I'm sure the scalpers had all the inside info though were registered and there 4 hours early.What gets me most about BBY, is they didn't tell people early on that they wouldn't have cards in store on launch day. I got the 3080 on launch from Microcenter, but waited in line at BBY in vain. Later I got a 3070 and a 3060Ti from Microcenter - BBY finally decided to tell people "online only". Wasted a lot of people's time who didn't know their game.
I thought mining would be dead around the same timeline as the 2018 crypto currency GPU crisis, but that's not what's happened it's still with us and who knows when it will finally end and we'll see old GPU's being sold below their original MSRP again. How is LHR a "cruel joke", ineffective sure, but it's not cruel or a joke. Why bring up Biden? He doesn't have the power to affect significant change to the GPU shortage.I`ve only replayed older games since the current situation and I`ll do anything before I`ll pay these m0therf...s anything. Scalpers or AMD/NVIDIA is just the same, profiting from people`s misfortune. Needless to say, these companies don`t give a fxck about gamers, the very people that built their fortunes. Nvidia`s LHR is a cruel joke and AMD didn`t even bother that much. Assuming Biden stops printing money, crypto will soon stall, mining will be dead, just as in 2018 and when a ton of used cards will flood the market, we`ll have the last laugh.
If people didn't buy from scalpers scalping wouldn't exist. Scalpers don't swindle people out of their money they offer a product for sale at an inflated price, people don't have to buy it, people aren't tricked into paying more. Buyers can take the offer or not there is a choice.Sorry, dude, I can't believe you defend scalping. Scalping should be a fellony, it's not "supply and demand", it's an intermediary who swindles people out of their money and that's what I said, profiting from a crisis, profiting of people's misfortune and in fact, destabilizing a market by amplifying supply issues.
Lucky, I've been the their queue for over a year and have heard nothing, recently got notified that the card I was waiting for is no longer available and got moved to the LHR version. Then got another notification about their "Elite" club and Q3.0 which get priority access to new hardware... So in other words I'm probably never going to get a card from them now as I can't join due to not having purchased any recent hardware from them.I've gotten 2 cards from the EVGA queue at MSRP 3080 and 3080ti ftw3 models
Yeah that happened to me too the 3080 got switched to an LHR model I originally signed up in October 2020 and got one about a year later. The 3080ti signed up on launch day and it took a couple months.Lucky, I've been the their queue for over a year and have heard nothing, recently got notified that the card I was waiting for is no longer available and got moved to the LHR version. Then got another notification about their "Elite" club and Q3.0 which get priority access to new hardware... So in other words I'm probably never going to get a card from them now as I can't join due to not having purchased any recent hardware from them.
Although I mostly agree with your statement, games DID NOT make either Nvidias or AMDs fortunes. Games are an insignificant part of their profits.I`ve only replayed older games since the current situation and I`ll do anything before I`ll pay these m0therf...s anything. Scalpers or AMD/NVIDIA is just the same, profiting from people`s misfortune. Needless to say, these companies don`t give a fxck about gamers, the very people that built their fortunes. Nvidia`s LHR is a cruel joke and AMD didn`t even bother that much. Assuming Biden stops printing money, crypto will soon stall, mining will be dead, just as in 2018 and when a ton of used cards will flood the market, we`ll have the last laugh.
Gaming insignificant for them? You better check their quarterly earnings from last years from gaming cards. It's in the billions of dollars. Also, if it were so insignificant, they would have ended that already. Or maybe you think Intel joined the race because they have nothing better to do with their money. Besides, I didn't say gaming exclusively built their fortunes, but it was a semnificant part of their revenue, especially Nvidia's, since AMD was a CPU company first.Although I mostly agree with your statement, games DID NOT make either Nvidias or AMDs fortunes. Games are an insignificant part of their profits.
No it isn't. Stop over-reacting.DIY PC building is dead.
Again, no it's not. Stop over-reacting.At this point I fear that PC gaming is dead.