GTX 280 or 4870, which will last longer?

By Ducklord ยท 49 replies
Oct 7, 2008
  1. nickc

    nickc TechSpot Paladin Posts: 923   +11

    ^ I actually agree as the PSU is the back bone of a good computer!!!
  2. Ducklord

    Ducklord TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 20

    evil people trying to drain my funds!! and forget the second question. apparently there is a guide just in sticky.

    so anybody can tell me if the wiring fits?
  3. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 5,443   +38

    If you're worried about wiring, get a modular PSU. Speaking of which, a 550-600W PSU is all you'd need. I'd recommend the Gigabyte Odin Pro 550 as an excellent option.
  4. Ducklord

    Ducklord TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 20

    so, with a modular power supple everything will fit right, cause if i'm not mistaken i could just switch things around until they fit.

    anyway, the one you recommended is way to expensive. so i'll get this Antec NeoPower 650 Blue 650W ATX12V / EPS12V. overkill at a decent amount :p

    it should work too right?
  5. nickc

    nickc TechSpot Paladin Posts: 923   +11

    ^ that is actually a good PSU.
  6. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 5,443   +38

    While the NeoPower is a great PSU, this one is a far better choice and is almost the same price with the rebate. It is a legendary PSU that has very rarely disappointed anyone I know who owns it.
  7. Ducklord

    Ducklord TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 20

    so if i use that, everything will fit right for my PSU? i mean the case i wanted has like 4 fans and one temp control and there is the issue of me using 3 dvd drives and 2 hard drive?

    sorry for asking so many times, but this is my first computer to be self build.

  8. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 14,523

    The PSU that Rage_3K_Moiz mentioned, has:

    1 x ATX Motherboard Adapter
    1 x ATX12V Power 12V Plug
    8 x Serial ATA Connections

    I do not see any LP4 connectors
    You may then need to purchase an adaptor if you need these (do you?)

    ie Like this:

    Or is that the other way around? Anyway you know what I mean
  9. Ducklord

    Ducklord TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 20

    eekk, i don't even have one of it. maybe my old computer has some. need to find it. ok, so how do i tell, how many i need. cause from the looks of it. i need it for the case. god knows where else i need it.

    so how could i tell?

  10. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 14,523

    Check how many fans actually require a PowerSupply connector (the Motherboard connectors are ok)
    Then your HardDrive(s)
    Then your CD\DVD Drive(s)
    Then your Video card?

    Then you really should have at least 1 left over
    So I'll leave you with that jumble !
  11. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 5,443   +38

    LP4 (a.k.a. Molex) connectors are of course included, how else do you expect people to power their HDDs and other peripherals? Look here, they're listed as peripheral connectors. The HX620W has 10 of them. has just been lazy and not listed them all. Using the same logic, you'd probably say that it doesn't come with PCI-E connectors either, which doesn't make sense for an SLI-certified PSU.
  12. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 14,523

    Ok I thought it was strange
    I was then going to search around, but I thought well they advertised it. Maybe this is the new age of Power Supplies!?

    Thanks for clearing that up Rage_3K_Moiz :grinthumb
  13. Ducklord

    Ducklord TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 20

    ok, this may seem weird, but it looks like the fan in the casing support both SATA and LP4, linky.

    is that possible? regardless i think i need either 5 LP4 or SATA. at least that's what i can figure out. 4 fans and one temp control.

    dvd burner - 1 SATAlink and 2 LP4(salvage from my old computer)
    hard drive - 1 SATAlink and another would be LP4(salvage again)

    one gtx 260, so that should work cause they give two PCI-E 6+2 pin.

    so how far correct am i? and by my count, there should be ample wiring left. one question. when they give you 22 connectors, can all of it fit into the PSU? i guess what am saying is can i use all of them at one go? or does it have a limitation?
  14. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 5,443   +38

    The SATA connectors come with the motherboard, the power connectors come with (of course) the PSU. You are correct on all accounts. Don't worry about wiring and yes, you can use all the connectors, that's what they've been given for.
  15. Ducklord

    Ducklord TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 20

    so basically, buy a PSU that has modulator would mean i would have more than enough wiring for all my components? and do i need to worry about the amps and volts of all the components. or does the PSU takes care of all that? meaning i can attach any wire from any spot on the PSU to the component(as long as it fits) and it will all work out?

    or do i need to make sure i have the right volts and amps when i attach stuff on it?
  16. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 14,523

    Tha's the overall Watts stated on the PSU, that was discussed earlier, and originally by Rage_3K_Moiz, it was listed as 620W

    The one we have been confirming individual power cables on (supposedly the same one, but different link by Rage_3K_Moiz again), is listed as 520W

    So there is still some confusion there

    Anyway either one will enable you to safely connect all your devices to it, power usage wise
  17. Ducklord

    Ducklord TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 20

    lawl, thanks

    and the link just show both the 520 and 650 PSU.
  18. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 5,443   +38

    No, I've linked to the 620W model, the HX620W, whose specs are also listed in the Corsair link provided before. The link also goes to the HX620W, not the HX520W.

    As for modular cabling, it basically means that all the large cables that are made up of lots of smaller wires will be sleeved so that after attaching everything you can pull the sleeving over all the cables so the sleeving basically acts like a huge cable tie that eliminates any cable clutter and improves airflow. Also, modular PSUs feature detachable cables. This eliminates unnecessary connectors and helps improve airflow, as well as leading to minimal cable management. This is how the cabling of a typical modular PSU looks like:

  19. Ducklord

    Ducklord TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 20

    hehe, btw, since i'm getting 8 gigs of ram. i would need a 64 bit OS and i'm going to get vista. i'm a heavy gamer and secondary i watch a lot of shows on my computer :D

    so i'm wondering what's the real difference between the difference version?
  20. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 5,443   +38

    Didn't really get you there...can you rephrase that?
  21. fullmetalvegan

    fullmetalvegan TS Enthusiast Posts: 123

    For the record, a 19" monitor doesn't have a limit of 1280x1024 resolution. It's 1440x900 for me. =P

    "So if its lasting in the long run, I'd recommend ATI. Why? You can buy a second card of the same type down the road and up your graphics power if you really really need to."

    CrossFireX is actually really terrible and in almost all cases of high end cards, it actually either has the same, but more often than not, cripples the performance. Two 4870 in CrossFireX perform equal or worse than a single one on its own. Only SLI is capable of increasing GPU performance properly (NVIDIA).

    Two ATi cards are a total waste of money, due to ATi's terrible drivers. This is why I always go NVIDIA for now.
  22. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 5,443   +38

    Proof? Links? Crossfire motherboards are cheaper to get than SLI ones and nForce chipsets have compatibility issues with a lot of apps. Crossfire also gives better performance across the board as far as I've seen.
  23. Ducklord

    Ducklord TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 20

    ok, i'm going to get 8 gigs of ram.

    so it means i would need a vista 64 bit.

    i'm also a heavy gamer.

    and i was wondering which version of vista is suitable for me(and cheapest), like home edition, home premium, or ultimate?
  24. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 12,961   +2,520

    For the record, a standard 19'' LCD monitor has native resolution of 1280 X 1024. The aspect ratio of the screen is 5:4.
    Most widescreen 19" LCD monitors have a native resolution of 1440 X 900. The screen aspect ratio is 16:9.
    There is a new Westinghouse 19" LCD widescreen (L1916HW) with a native resolution of 1680 X 1050. (And I suppose there are others).
  25. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 5,443   +38

    Vista Home Premium x64 would be the best choice IMO.
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