How teachers are fighting AI cheating with handwritten work, oral tests, and AI

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A hot potato: The fear that generative AI tools such as ChatGPT would lead to a generation of students cheating and plagiarizing work has come to pass. The situation is so bad that educators are now looking at multipe ways to stop the problem, or at least make the practice much more difficult. Ironically, one of them is to use AI.

Speaking about AI-cheat students, Gary Ward, a teacher at Brookes Westshore High School in Victoria, British Columbia, told Business Insider, "Some of the ones that I see using it all the time – I think if it wasn't there, they would just sit there looking blindly into space."

There were warnings about AI cheating being endemic in education last year. Now, Ward says that "literally" all students are doing it.

One of the ways Ward is trying to combat the problem is to turn the AI against the cheaters. He asks ChatGPT to help him develop work that would be difficult for students to complete by simply feeding it into a large language model.

Richard Griffin, a lecturer in the business faculty at Manchester Metropolitan University in Manchester, England, is also using AI to make life harder for the AI cheats. The University has developed an in-house system that can be fed assignments. The system will then summarize how difficult it would be to use AI to complete the work, and recommend ways to make doing so more challenging.

"The IT department have done their own tool which assesses how AI safe it is, or AI savvy it is, and will give you a bit of a grade to say, 'Well, really, you will need to adjust some of this,'" Griffin said. "It doesn't give us specific information, but it does give you a bit of a scroll to say, No, this isn't very safe. You need to add some deeper challenges here, or you need to make this more personal, etc."

An anti-AI-cheating method we first heard about back in 2023 is still being used by many educators: a return to pen-and-paper assignments. Even if some of the assignments have to be carried out digitally, teachers can examine the written work to determine the likelihood that digital text came from the same student. Some Universities also make handwritten assignments and exams count for a higher percentage of the overall course grade.

"It's expensive and it takes a lot of time to grade them, but I think that needs to continue," said Ward.

There's no doubt that teaching students about AI and how to use it will become increasingly important as the technology finds its way into every part of our lives. But many agree that an overreliance on the likes of ChatGPT at an early age is destroying young people's critical thinking, imagination, and more.

Some courses are better suited to avoiding AI cheating. Several business courses, for example, are putting more of an emphasis on interacting with clients. There are also shifts back to more oral and discussion-based assignments.

Ultimately, the problem of using AI to cheat in schools isn't going away. Hopefully, the methods being used to combat it will prove effective, or there might be a future generation of professionals who can't do their jobs without consulting ChatGPT.

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Best answer to AI in schools? Use the Socratic Method.

Decades ago, the whole purpose of homework devolved into “can you follow instructions, fill out paperwork, and be a good little nine to fiver?”, and now, today’s machines are clearly showing us how pointless of a task that is to delegate towards humans.

Make students show what they’re capable of. No more homework and tests. Show me that you actually understand the subject matter by being able to discuss it spontaneously and thoroughly. And I don’t wanna hear excuses either. Life isn’t easy cupcake, get over it.
 
Yes, the whole school system need to be rebuild almost from scratch
lets students learn from whatever sources they can
change the exam system as mentioned above
and put AI in charge to evaluate lol
 
Yes, the whole school system need to be rebuild almost from scratch
lets students learn from whatever sources they can
change the exam system as mentioned above
and put AI in charge to evaluate lol
They learn false information from an AI only to have an AI decide whether or not their answer is correct, brilliant! Humanity was already on the way down, AI is just going to accelerate that.
 
The easiest way to stop student cheating are to make them physically perform.
Make them - essentially - do what the teacher has to do.
Make it mandatory to stand in front of the class and deliver a slideshow/presentation.
Make them build science projects and demonstrate them.
Of course they'll complain that they aren't allowed to just sit in the back of the classroom and play on their phones while cheating/copy-pasting their work. But at the end of the day: they have no choice but to perform. If their parents give you flak - make their parents remove them from your class.
 
When a machine is certified to operate successfully under certain conditions that don't change much over time, it can perform reliably. But most people, after a few years, don't remember even the cover pages of their high school textbooks. Many adults, myself included, can't perform division by hand (I write down 1700/10 on paper and I've forgotten the procedure, even though I still know higher math). We've forgotten(I hope am not alone) that basic skill because we don't use them anymore, even if we passed the tests in elementary school. There are also fields like music, where millions of people know music theory but can't actually write music. So, a graduation certificate is only a weak indicator of knowledge retention. If people don't stay in touch with a field, they will likely forget the knowledge after a few years.
 
Australian Universities have turned a blind eye to it. A huge % of the foreign students, especially from China are using it to essentially buy degrees. Many can't speak or write English, yet turn in perfectly worded essays and even exams, where a different student sits the exam for them. Alarms have been raised, lecturers are outraged, yet the Vice Chancellor denies, denies, denies it's a problem, not wanting to upset the cash cart of foreign students
 
destroying young people's critical thinking, imagination, and more.

Sorry, but this happened long before AI came into the picture, but it will definitely speed up the process...

Just go to any retail or fast food place with young folks as cashiers, order something that comes to say $18.73......then give the cashier $20.27 and you will instantly see that "Deer in the headlights" look appear on their face, and them reaching for a calculator if one is nearby, or god forbid, a pen & paper....

And yea, using AI to detect when someone used AI to cheat or generate all their material or answers.......good luck with that !

The ONLY answers:

A) Check every student & teachers/staff at the front door & confiscate all their tech until school is out & they are leaving for the day....

B) Remove & BAN all tech from all classrooms, except for maybe projectors or slide machines for the teacher's presentations IF required...

C) Require all assignments/reports/tests to be compiled and submitted in handwritten form during the class

D) Reserve a few highly secured rooms for technology classes for all students, and focus the curriculum on the good/bad/ugly aspects of using it. That way they can still know how to use it when they leave school, but will also learn to NOT depend on it for every single moment in their lives...

Yes, any or all of this will require a massive reset in the way schools operate, but it's either that, or the sayng about "children are the future" will die an even more painful death because AI will rule everything, everywhere, all the time, all at once..:(
 
Sorry, but this happened long before AI came into the picture, but it will definitely speed up the process...

Just go to any retail or fast food place with young folks as cashiers, order something that comes to say $18.73......then give the cashier $20.27 and you will instantly see that "Deer in the headlights" look appear on their face, and them reaching for a calculator if one is nearby, or god forbid, a pen & paper....

And yea, using AI to detect when someone used AI to cheat or generate all their material or answers.......good luck with that !

The ONLY answers:

A) Check every student & teachers/staff at the front door & confiscate all their tech until school is out & they are leaving for the day....

B) Remove & BAN all tech from all classrooms, except for maybe projectors or slide machines for the teacher's presentations IF required...

C) Require all assignments/reports/tests to be compiled and submitted in handwritten form during the class

D) Reserve a few highly secured rooms for technology classes for all students, and focus the curriculum on the good/bad/ugly aspects of using it. That way they can still know how to use it when they leave school, but will also learn to NOT depend on it for every single moment in their lives...

Yes, any or all of this will require a massive reset in the way schools operate, but it's either that, or the sayng about "children are the future" will die an even more painful death because AI will rule everything, everywhere, all the time, all at once..:(

Here's your $1.50 sir.
Don't forget to tip! :D
 
The problem is not the students having access to AI tools, but using it to write the entire paper for them, top to botton, literally Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V.

A month ago I heard from a college professor that one of his students used ChatGPT to do a paper, and the AI had put the student's name among the original researchers of the subject. The professor then jokingly asked the student when he worked with such renowned researchers on the subject, "decades ago".

This is not a new problem. Back when I was in primary school, teachers often complained to students that they were copying text books word by word, instead of using their own to explain what they learned.

So AI or no AI, this is a life long battle to stop students from being lazy and try to learn something.
 
They learn false information from an AI only to have an AI decide whether or not their answer is correct, brilliant! Humanity was already on the way down, AI is just going to accelerate that.
so, you still need teachers right?
 
Not a good sign that college professors are having to ask for artificial scenarios based on the sole criteria of being difficult for AI.

Anyone who is currently in college can expect their future career to involve reaching the highest productivity possible by leveraging increasingly powerful AI tools. The questions should be, what do these tools enable, what are the skills people will need to fully unlock them, and to devise assignments resembling those future work products.

Of course, human to human conversation is always going to be relevant, so putting more weight on being able to generate, defend, and critique ideas in real time discussion is a good idea (and always has been, just too "inconvenient" for most school programs despite their sky high cost.)

And for those professors unable to think of a single useful application for their course topics... maybe this is a wake up call you needed. And not new to AI either.
 
order something that comes to say $18.73......then give the cashier $20.27 and you will instantly see that "Deer in the headlights" look

Are you sure that look wasn't a look of confusion as to what this person is doing, or second-hand embarrassment for their math skills?

The 90%+ scenario is to give the cashier $20, or $19. Or for those people who feel a strong preference for two quarters over one quarter and two pennies, $20.23. Although realistically unless there's an arcade machine nearby most people in that camp would go for $19.73 or $20.73 so as to get just bills back. But your scenario of $20.27... resulting in change of $1.54... no thanks. I'd just push your original $0.27 of coins back to you as they were and hand you the $0.27 in change on your dollars the normal way.
 
The "kids these days days" way of argumenting is so tiring to read.

You guys do realize you were referred to this way by your predecessors when you were young, right? And where did you end up? Repeating the exact same mistakes and landing at the exact same style of communication. Bravo.

And reading someone's comment about how removing all tech from student's hands like laptops and phones is a solution to this problem is truly painful. There is no easy solution. Full stop. It's going to be a struggle, everyone should try combating it how they see fit, and we'll get through this and hopefully live long enough to deal with the aftermath.

Has it occurred to you that using AI to write your assignments is a symptom and not the actual problem?

Throughout my whole life as a student I remember maybe 2 teachers who were worthy of being called teachers, the rest were just there to do their jobs, follow instructions like blind sheep, get paid and hopefully not get into trouble. Actually teaching, enlightening human beings was definitely either not high, or missing from their list of priorities. I do not blame them though as it is also a symptom of a dysfunctional education system. Which in turn is a symptom of something else. It's a deep, interconnected web of problems that mainly originates from us being humans.

I suggest civility and understanding. Put yourselves in the shoes of young students and erase your current knowledge and experience, how would the vast majority of you write these assignments today?

Here's your $1.50 sir.
Don't forget to tip! :D

It's not $1.50 though. If the guy commenting actually gave me that, I'd simply return the 27 cents back and give him change for a 20. Had he given 20.23, it would be a different matter.
 
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Maybe I wasn't clear
im for all the tools that can give you a knowledge
aren't you?

so called professors, must prove (again) them self's, catching students that don't know
yes, its a job
 
Ai is an amazingly powerful aid when used correctly. I observe two types of students in my university courses: the stronger students that utilize ai as a tool to learn, and the more insecure or shortcut seeking students that use ai to solve their assignments.
This is actually not that different from take home assignments before ai, where we would work in groups to work though tutorials and assignments. Here some students would also non critically write down whatever we did on the blackboards.

Assessment wise I find that letting the students use ai during labs and tutes but acessing them on knowledge orally or in a setting without access to ai motivates at least some form of learning
 
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