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[Evernessince]

Your not getting it. Apple doesnt warrany batteries and Ford doesnt warranty tires or brake pads. Now a kiosk may warranty a battery and a dealership may offer a milage warranty on tires or itregular brake bad wear. But those are not warranties from the factory, they are 3rd party offered by the dealership. You cannot get a factory warranty for batteries, tires or brake pads. It doesnt exist as they are consumables, they are meant to wear out over time and are illogical to warranty. A dealership or kiosk wants to keep you as a costumer so they will create these warranties to provide peace or mind and take a gamble you may never need it.

Apple does warranty it's batteries for a year. So yeah....

Here we are again in circles. You are missing the point and at the same time contradicting yourself with your google search links. In your first post, you are saying that batteries should be replaced for free. I argued why would a manufacturer replace them for free if in the first place the battery is degraded over time which is NORMAL. Batteries are consumables. They are like tires and brake pads (unless again you start to argue that there are free tires, there is no such free thing in the world, we call that insurance or 3rd party warranty which you paid with/without knowing it from the stealership (uhum dealership) or do you even own a car?) . What apple did is just throttle phones that has degraded batteries. They did have the good intention so that people will not charge multiple times a day and prolong battery life in return performance will take a hit. The only wrong they did is they did not inform Apple users (not whining android users like you) about this throttling. So those people who have old batteries or degraded batteries still enjoy long battery life but then they started to notice slowness in their devices especially when they updated it to the ios 10.3.x (old models) and 11.2 with A9 devices. This is really a bad move but the intention has a good merit. I still believe they should make a built-in battery wear level in the settings and at the same time a toggle switch for batteries with critical weal level to switch between Normal usage or Conserve battery life. I firmly believe this is a good feature for people who have DEGRADED BATTERIES and don't want to invest in new batteries or dont mind MHz numbers.

So to straighten out. battery do not last. even your precious samsung. there are many factors that affects battery capacity or loss of capacity (cycle count is an indicator!). people have different way on how they charge or use the phones so comparing them with similar or different models is BS. I hope you stop misleading people with your google search.

Your post does nothing to refute links I provided showing Apple batteries degrade to the point of system issues at around 500 cycles on average. Also, stop trying to strawman with Samsung. We aren't talking about Samsung here, no matter how much you love to hate on them. I provided objective facts, you simply provide more addled opinion.

 

[ZackL04]

Apple does warranty it's batteries for a year. So yeah....



Your post does nothing to refute links I provided showing Apple batteries degrade to the point of system issues at around 500 cycles on average. Also, stop trying to strawman with Samsung. We aren't talking about Samsung here, no matter how much you love to hate on them. I provided objective facts, you simply provide more addled opinion.

Against failure not degradation

 

[Kenrick]

Apple does warranty it's batteries for a year. So yeah....



Your post does nothing to refute links I provided showing Apple batteries degrade to the point of system issues at around 500 cycles on average. Also, stop trying to strawman with Samsung. We aren't talking about Samsung here, no matter how much you love to hate on them. I provided objective facts, you simply provide more addled opinion.

Now you dont know the meaning of manufacturer's warranty??? OMG manufacturer warranty does not include normal wear and tear.

Geez take a break in every Apple articles. BTW Im not a Samsung hater. I love The SG Note 4 which I think is the best android ever produced. Ive seen your hate comments at most Apple articles here yet when its a Samsung article, no one here even bother posting that much. Thats the reason why Apple articles are a clickbait here because of the hate bandwagon guys like you. The one who included samsung here in the first place is you android fan. See your first post. That comparison alone with a exploding device tells how narrow is your understanding with batteries. Stop spamming every apple articles with your nonsense.

 

[Evernessince]

Against failure not degradation

And yet your words were "Your not getting it. Apple doesnt warrany batteries", which was clearly false. You never added "not degradation".

Adding more after the fact does not help your argument.

Now you dont know the meaning of manufacturer's warranty??? OMG manufacturer warranty does not include normal wear and tear.

Geez take a break in every Apple articles. BTW Im not a Samsung hater. I love The SG Note 4 which I think is the best android ever produced. Ive seen your hate comments at most Apple articles here yet when its a Samsung article, no one here even bother posting that much. Thats the reason why Apple articles are a clickbait here because of the hate bandwagon guys like you. The one who included samsung here in the first place is you android fan. See your first post. That comparison alone with a exploding device tells how narrow is your understanding with batteries. Stop spamming every apple articles with your nonsense.

Sounds like your grasping at straws here with more personal attacks, have fun with that.

 

[Kenrick]

And yet your words were "Your not getting it. Apple doesnt warrany batteries", which was clearly false. You never added "not degradation".

Adding more after the fact does not help your argument.



Sounds like your grasping at straws here with more personal attacks, have fun with that.

Cool. Its funny how you accuse me of personal attacks when you are losing your credibility. First you accuse me of being bias as an apple user when in fact you don't know what are you talking about, then accused me of insulting you, and now personal attacks. Man, you are such a coward for starting it and then trying to put me in a bad light here at the end. Im so disappointed that this is what you are.

 

[ZackL04]

And yet your words were "Your not getting it. Apple doesnt warrany batteries", which was clearly false. You never added "not degradation".

Adding more after the fact does not help your argument.



Sounds like your grasping at straws here with more personal attacks, have fun with that.

Dude, im aruging you dont know jack about car warranties. “Durr, everyone gives warranties on tire wear...”

You lose, and no one cares

 

[Evernessince]

Dude, im aruging you dont know jack about car warranties. “Durr, everyone gives warranties on tire wear...”

You lose, and no one cares

First, you were the one who brought up car warranties. Second, I'm not the one who had to append his words after the fact. You are laser focused off topic because you know you can't combat any of the link I've provided. You've got your opinion and zero sources to back it up.

 

[ZackL04]

First, you were the one who brought up car warranties. Second, I'm not the one who had to append his words after the fact. You are laser focused off topic because you know you can't combat any of the link I've provided. You've got your opinion and zero sources to back it up.

The topic was this kit isnt worth it when apple will charge the same price to perform the service for you. Then you started bashing them, then u said they should warranty the batteries like auto manufacturers do with tires, and I said manufacturers dont warranty tires as they are a consumeable, like brakes or back to a phone, like phone batteries. Then you linked an article you found of a dealership providing a tire warranty, which still isnt a manufacturers warranty, its a dealer covered incentive to drive a sale.

So back on topic, this kit isnt worth it, auto manufacturers dont warranty tires and apple shouldnt have to warranty batteries against degradation.

 

[Evernessince]

The topic was this kit isnt worth it when apple will charge the same price to perform the service for you. Then you started bashing them, then u said they should warranty the batteries like auto manufacturers do with tires, and I said manufacturers dont warranty tires as they are a consumeable, like brakes or back to a phone, like phone batteries. Then you linked an article you found of a dealership providing a tire warranty, which still isnt a manufacturers warranty, its a dealer covered incentive to drive a sale.

So back on topic, this kit isnt worth it, auto manufacturers dont warranty tires and apple shouldnt have to warranty batteries against degradation.

Let's just get this out of the way, some car manufacturers DO warrant tires.

http://www.chevrolet.com/owners/warranty


Fact: Nearly every phone manufacturer warrants their batteries - Samsung, LG, Sony, Blackberry, Essential, Moto, ect

You are comparing batteries in phones, which come with the device and are often made specifically for that device, to tires that are made by a 3rd party, are not made specifically for that car, and may be changed before the car even sells. In addition, battery manufacturers do not offer any warranty while tire manufacturers do. You have to realize that if Apple choose to not warranty their batteries, customer would have in fact zero protection if the battery failed, even a single day after the sale. This would not fly in many European countries, as they have minimum warranty laws in place and Apple would be forced to warranty their batteries anyways.

"The topic was this kit isnt worth it when apple will charge the same price to perform the service for you. Then you started bashing them, then u said they should warranty the batteries like auto manufacturers do with tires"

My first comment

"The iFixit kit comes with tools designed to make it as easy as possible and you can follow their video on how to do it. It's pretty bad when a 3rd party is offering a better solution than Apple after this fiasco.

This is the difference between Apple and Samsung, Apple has hundred of billions in the bank and can't even spare 5 million for batteries while samsung spent hundreds of millions to completely replace phones that may not even be affected. Steve Jobs is rolling in his grave right now, because when he was at the help, a mistake like this was completely unacceptable."

and second comment

"Um, many cars come with free tire changes so yeah.... because the manufacturer knows they will wear out before the end of the car's life.. Apple failed to mention their crap batteries will only last 500 cycles, or a year and a half at best. That's kind of important, given you are spending $800 and now $1,000 on flagship phones and they design their phones to be a PITA to repair. How many people would stop buying Apple if they knew they could only use it for a year 1/2 before they have to pay for expensive repairs?

Also, this isn't normal, FYI. Samsung's batteries last at least twice as many cycles as Apple's. Pretty much every other Smartphone's batteries degrade slower than Apples. The thing with Apple is they get sales mostly through brand and things like this damage that."

I compared Apple to Samsung, sorry for pointing out facts. At no point did I start calling names or "bashing them" as you have done to me. You were the one who started the tire analogy.

 

[ZackL04]

Let's just get this out of the way, some car manufacturers DO warrant tires.

http://www.chevrolet.com/owners/warranty


Fact: Nearly every phone manufacturer warrants their batteries - Samsung, LG, Sony, Blackberry, Essential, Moto, ect

You are comparing batteries in phones, which come with the device and are often made specifically for that device, to tires that are made by a 3rd party, are not made specifically for that car, and may be changed before the car even sells. In addition, battery manufacturers do not offer any warranty while tire manufacturers do. You have to realize that if Apple choose to not warranty their batteries, customer would have in fact zero protection if the battery failed, even a single day after the sale. This would not fly in many European countries, as they have minimum warranty laws in place and Apple would be forced to warranty their batteries anyways.

"The topic was this kit isnt worth it when apple will charge the same price to perform the service for you. Then you started bashing them, then u said they should warranty the batteries like auto manufacturers do with tires"

My first comment

"The iFixit kit comes with tools designed to make it as easy as possible and you can follow their video on how to do it. It's pretty bad when a 3rd party is offering a better solution than Apple after this fiasco.

This is the difference between Apple and Samsung, Apple has hundred of billions in the bank and can't even spare 5 million for batteries while samsung spent hundreds of millions to completely replace phones that may not even be affected. Steve Jobs is rolling in his grave right now, because when he was at the help, a mistake like this was completely unacceptable."

and second comment

"Um, many cars come with free tire changes so yeah.... because the manufacturer knows they will wear out before the end of the car's life.. Apple failed to mention their crap batteries will only last 500 cycles, or a year and a half at best. That's kind of important, given you are spending $800 and now $1,000 on flagship phones and they design their phones to be a PITA to repair. How many people would stop buying Apple if they knew they could only use it for a year 1/2 before they have to pay for expensive repairs?

Also, this isn't normal, FYI. Samsung's batteries last at least twice as many cycles as Apple's. Pretty much every other Smartphone's batteries degrade slower than Apples. The thing with Apple is they get sales mostly through brand and things like this damage that."

I compared Apple to Samsung, sorry for pointing out facts. At no point did I start calling names or "bashing them" as you have done to me. You were the one who started the tire analogy.

Dude, we are talking about warranties against degradation, in both cases (tires or batteries).... which doesnt and shouldnt exist.

Btw, I didnt bring up the tire analogy, Im just arguing your broad idea of the word warranty.

 

[Evernessince]

Dude, we are talking about warranties against degradation, in both cases (tires or batteries).... which doesnt and shouldnt exist.

Btw, I didnt bring up the tire analogy, Im just arguing your broad idea of the word warranty.

All the smartphone manufactures warrant against degradation within the warranty period. Go find me a manufacturer that specifically excludes degradation. Like I pointed out earlier, not warranting the batteries would be a violation of customer protection laws in many countries.