Illinois legislator is trying to ban violent video games in the state

midian182

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Facepalm: As hard as it is to believe, the debate over violent video games and their alleged link to real-life crimes still hasn’t gone away. A democratic state representative in Illinois wants titles such as Grand Theft Auto V banned from sale, claiming they are behind a spate of carjackings and violent crimes in Chicago and elsewhere in the state.

The Chicago Sun-Times reports that rep. Marcus Evans Jr. has filed an amendment to a 2012 law that prevents some video games from being sold to minors. House Bill 3531 would amend that law, prohibiting the sale and rental of all “violent video games” in Illinois.

The bill defines a violent video game as one that “allows a user or player to control a character within the video game that is encouraged to perpetuate human-on-human violence in which the player kills or otherwise causes serious physical or psychological harm to another human or an animal,” which probably covers around 90 percent of titles out there.

The amendments also want to change the definition of “serious physical harm” to include carjacking. In Chicago, there were 218 incidents of carjacking reported to police throughout January. “The bill would prohibit the sale of some of these games that promote the activities that we’re suffering from in our communities,” Evans said.

Grand Theft Auto V, the second-best-selling video game of all time behind Minecraft, has been singled out as a particularly bad influence. Early Walker, who started Operation Safe Pump to prevent carjackings at gas stations and shopping centers, said he contacted several state legislators to ban the game after noticing similarities between the way players hijack cars in the game and the real-life crime.

“I feel like this game has become a huge issue in this spectrum,” Walker said. “When you compare the two, you see harsh similarities as it relates to these carjackings.”

The bill would see anyone who sells or rents a violent video game in Illinois fined $1,000.

Calls to ban violent video games have raged since the 1999 Columbine massacre, which was partly blamed on video games. Families of those who lost their lives in the shooting tried to sue several game companies, but the suit was dismissed.

Despite numerous studies showing no links between violent games and violent behavior, they are still demonized for many of society’s problems. In 2018, a Rhode Island representative wanted them taxed, the same year The White House famously compiled a video to illustrate violence in games. It appears that President Biden isn’t a fan, either.

Banning violent games in Illinois won’t be easy. In 2011, the U.S. Supreme Court said video games are free speech, ending a California law that banned the sale of violent titles to minors.

“Like the protected books, plays, and movies that preceded them, video games communicate ideas — and even social messages — through many familiar literary devices (such as characters, dialogue, plot, and music) and through features distinctive to the medium (such as the player’s interaction with the virtual world),” Supreme Court Justice Scalia wrote. “That suffices to confer First Amendment protection.”

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mrtraver

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As usual politicians fail to resolve the real under lying issues. It's like going to see a doctor for a broken arm and they just give you an Advil.

This. It is easier to blame video games than address root causes.

Early Walker is conflating correlation with cause and effect. If there is any causation it is reversed - GTA carjackings look similar to real-world ones because they are modeled on the real-world ones, which were happening long before GTA was a thing.
 

Irata

Posts: 1,358   +2,168
So a game released in 2013 is the cause in the rise of carjackings *now* ?

Yes, the game is very popular even five years after its release but it‘s still curious that a six and a half year old game is to blame for things that are happening now. Maybe it would be worth checking if things that happened in real life more recently are perhaps contributing factors rather than a video game.

Also curious if we‘ll hear about this again if the video game ban has no effect.
 

candle_86

Posts: 729   +729
If it gets cancelled the locals should violently riot. Demonstrate that games actually pacify people, which I genuinely believe they do!

They do, I saw a specialist as a kid after I was caught writing disturbing things in my notebook about bullies in my school, the treatment that worked was goldeneye because I could take out my frustrations on virtual people instead of real ones. I don't mind admitting I had an issue, those kids threw rocks at my head for sport, but violent video games proved to be my outlet to cope instead of the possibility of turning my school into another columbine. And yes I'm better now
 

3volv3d

Posts: 323   +144
I think it may be boredom.
But, you have carjackings. Maybe get rid of guns if you wanna kerb ya violence, also less people helps. Cull your noob society. Less *****s, less cars to steal, :p
 

Cubi Dorf

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It would be more successful to reduce car jacking by ban cars. yes, I am only poking. I don’t like ban for everyone as solution for few people doing bad thing. it is punish everyone for action of few people. not ok.
 

wiyosaya

Posts: 5,785   +3,992
The issue isn't the lack of accountability......

or the lack of parental guidance.....

or lack of things to do since people are f'ing board of being locked up.....

or lack of police (especially in the city of Minneapolis because the dumb cum guzzling assclowns that run the city thought it would be a good idea to defund the police after the George Floyd incident and now they're having problems keeping police officers on force and bring in new officers. They're complaining it takes a long time for police to respond to calls. They're upset that businesses are leaving the metro area and folks are trying to move out as well)....

or lack of proper places for kids to go due to schools being closed and extra curriculum facilities being closed or limiting people.....

The issue, is clearly and always has been, video games. I mean, it was movies and TV at one point, but it's no longer TV or movies. They're okay. But the violence in video games is now the issue! Oh, don't forget that the issue before TV and movies was rock and roll and even comics, but we know those aren't the reasons anymore for violence....it's video games!

What a bunch of twats.
And before that, it was "Refer Madness"
 

psycros

Posts: 3,398   +3,892
This is called control-by-bargaining. The idea is to propose something absurd like a ban and then come back later with a proposal for registration instead. Any time you buy a violent game your name goes into a database. Buy enough of them and you're put on a watch list. The ruling class gets what it wants in the end which is more control over the population. When people start protesting the database they'll be branded as "terrorists", "racists" etc. This is how the left has quietly taken over the entire western world, to the point they no longer even hide their fascism.
 

Neatfeatguy

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This is called control-by-bargaining. The idea is to propose something absurd like a ban and then come back later with a proposal for registration instead. Any time you buy a violent game your name goes into a database. Buy enough of them and you're put on a watch list. The ruling class gets what it wants in the end which is more control over the population. When people start protesting the database they'll be branded as "terrorists", "racists" etc. This is how the left has quietly taken over the entire western world, to the point they no longer even hide their fascism.

You know they keep the good Robotussin behind the counter at your local pharmacy, right? You can get the cheap version over the counter, but the good stuff you need to sign for.

I may be a bit more paranoid than most folks, but you won't catch me asking for the good stuff and signing a form for it. I don't know what they really use that information for, but I know it's for something and not just for tracking folks that "need too much" of it.

The folks that say "if you're not a drugie looking to cook meth, then you have nothing to worry about"....yeah, right. You can give them all your info like you probably already do on social media. Not this guy. I'm already tracked enough with having a cell phone and using my debit card as my main form of payment. I don't need my information going on more lists, no thank you, sir.
 

3volv3d

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It would be more successful to reduce car jacking by ban cars. yes, I am only poking. I don’t like ban for everyone as solution for few people doing bad thing. it is punish everyone for action of few people. not ok.
Actually the only vehicles that should be on the road in a progressive society is key services. And a better transport system for the public. Proper design of infrastructure and cities. However. Money talks. Fancy apartments and vehicles, because if the public figured out that their job was destroying the planet for their money and material gains which overall are pointless then everyone would be depressed. Retail therapy is where it's at. And *****s like this politician have no idea. He's up against it trying to force a chunk of money (the gaming biz) to do what he wants.
Ain't gonna happen.

And damn the censorship on this site is so awful. Can I say fart... I mean jeez
 

ZedRM

Posts: 420   +242
This amendment would have far reaching effects and would effective ban about 70% of all games made. No government has this authority, nor should they. Typical narrow focused politician...