.... which is an issue no one (especially you) can seem to rationally argue against in a way that offers even one shred of counter evidence.

Instead of making quick, throw away one liners that don't mean anything, try to convince me otherwise. If you offer compelling evidence I will listen...

 

How about telling us what your old AMD system consisted off, and what you are now comparing it against?

 

understood

i just do not believe you can be swayed. i will do my homework, so to speak. current diialogue from others here hasn't knocked you off your podium. give me a concrete request, and i will resolve it for you. but, i usually abohr a witch hunt where i have to wade into some vague general statement, as "intel is superior" and provided you counterarguements. i could do that all day, and have better things to do w/ my time.

 

Another thing I really dislike about AMD is the way the heat sink and fan attaches. On an Intel is on a well thought out device that makes for easy removal. On the AMD is got these cheapy plastic tabs that can sometimes break. You also have to press harder I think to get an AMD fan on. I don't like that. And when you remove an AMD chip, its more likely to have got stuck nastily to the heat sink. At least, that's my experience...

 

yes

so they created copper shims. you can shift the power supply for easy access or install it on the motherboard before you drop it in on a new set-up. either way, simple workarounds

 

Incidentaly, the Intel based PC that I have at work is less reliable than the AMD PC I have at home. The one at work constantly loses my roaming profile and causes me to have to log in as Administrator so that I can delete any old profiles and user accounts. Its the only PC in the office that does this, but it doesn't mean that Intel is the culprit.

As for heatsink clips, well that varies depending on the heatsink you bought.

 

traditional views

from a third party:" Intel focuses on being good at manufacturing, Amd focuses in on having better designs" http://www.fool.com/portfolios/rulemaker/2000/rulemaker000818.htm oh and another re stability issues: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=5855 and another on megahertz myth and sysmark myth "same article"

 

Re: traditional views

How can it be better design if they had to modify their design to correct the fact that it was crap? How can they design better if they have to release copper shims to help with the problem that the socket design is crap and outdated?

AMD socket design is old, awkward and crap. Intel design is newer and more versitile.

 

i kept editing the reply

so, continue it's perusal. carry on.
remember phant, that's yesterday's news. i'm trying to look at what's it going to be like, going forward.
"beauty is in the eye of the beholder"

 

Re: Re: traditional views

Intel LGA-775 screwed after 20 insertions

Is Intel's Prescott P4 too hot to handle?

 

is intel

currently, considered, up to date?

 

Intel embraces everything that's up to date.

They led us into ATX, even when AMD platforms were sticking to AT. It will be the same thing when BTX comes. Intel will march forward bolding, bring us PCI Express and all sort of other advances, whilst AMD will be bringing us yesterday's news with inferior chips that are aimed at gamers and students.

 

You've obviously been drinking again phant. Must be strong stuff :=).

How about answering some of my previous posts? Scared are we?

 

64bit

Gamers are a pretty tough croud.

 

Sounds like Linux ...

 

you guys are killin' me

LMAO!......i just want what phant's drinkin'.

 

Eh? What did you want to know...?? Did I miss something...??

As far as the slurs go (drinking again phant), I'm wondering why they are there and rational, well thought out argument is not...

 

Also, I did provide answers to your position of why you believe Intel is superior, but all you have produced so far is opinion.

PS: You are prone to having a few beers at the weekend are you not? You even wrote once that you were too drunk to make an intelligible post (if memory serves me).

Besides, I don't really feel like arguing as there is nothing wrong with choosing Intel. I simply disagree with your suggestion that AMD is inferior.

 

Brand loyalty is a trap, so be very careful. You like the P4, but hopefully won't shut out alternatives in the future.

The P4 really is a better processor... price aside of course. But now things are going 64-bit and AMD has the superior product at the moment.

I hope Intel comes out with a decent 64-bit alternative.

 

The only reason the P4 doesn't do that is because of its heatspreader.. Which is a nice touch.

But I just recently saw a guy kill a 3.0Ghz P4 system at work by turning on the computer when the heatsink was off. It was dead very soon after.

An AMD won't catch on fire as long as their is a reasonable heasink on it.

 

Yes, I am though just trying to stir up some argument for a bit of fun.

No, I am not drunk at the moment. That was a little below the belt and unncessary. Sitting around drinking is, in any case, something I've long since grown out of. And in any case, as a Staff Member of Techspot that's not something I would do.

I just wanted a bit of Sunday afternoon banter, if you have taken it as something other than that I do apologise. Though please don't accuse me of something like that again.

 

Okay phant, I hope you realise that I am only kidding around also. I only made the comment because you were being a little irrational in your arguments, and typically that would happen when a little light headed after a beer or two. Sorry if you took it the wrong way. Just having some fun. Please don't take it serious, as I had a couple of bottles myself today (2x300ml, 5 hours ago over lunch, and not enough to get pissed).

 

So, anyway, AMD are crap...

Only kidding...

 

Are not ...