Intel's AI PC chip demand stumbles while older processors thrive amid tariff concerns

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In a nutshell: Intel is discovering what most of us already knew: people aren't willing to pay more for CPUs just because they have added AI abilities. Team Blue said sales of its cheaper previous-generation Raptor Lake processors are seeing high demand, a contrast to the Lunar Lake and Meteor Lake chips with their AI smarts. It seems the looming prospect of Trump's tariffs causing economic disruption is playing a part, pushing consumers toward frugality.

Intel revealed during its recent earnings call that its Intel 7 process node production capacity was facing shortages, something it predicted would "persist for the foreseeable future."

Intel's more recent generations of processors – Meteor, Arrow, and Lunar Lake – use TSMC's newer process nodes, so what's causing the problems? The company said the shortage of 7nm production capacity was due to an unexpected surge in demand for its N-1 and N-2 products: Raptor Lake and Alder Lake.

A survey of more than 20,000 tech enthusiasts last year showed that 84% of participants would not be willing to pay extra money for hardware with AI capabilities.

Beyond a lot of people preferring to save money rather than opting for a slightly more powerful CPU that is AI-focused, the prospect of US tariffs is playing a part.

Many are worried about the prices of goods rising as a result of the tariffs, leading to belt-tightening among many consumers.

"What we're really seeing is much greater demand from our customers for n-1 and n-2 products so that they can continue to deliver system price points that consumers are really demanding," said Intel's Michelle Johnston Holthaus. "As we've all talked about, the macroeconomic concerns and tariffs have everybody kind of hedging their bets and what they need to have from an inventory perspective. And Raptor Lake is a great part. Meteor Lake and Lunar Lake are great as well, but come with a much higher cost structure, not only for us, but at the system ASP price points for our OEMs as well."

Trump has exempted chips from the tariffs, but Intel could suffer from the retaliatory tariffs China has placed on US imports – chips manufactured in the US could face levies of 85% or higher.

"The very fluid trade policies in the US and beyond, as well as regulatory risks, have increased the chance of an economic slowdown with the probability of a recession growing," said Intel's finance chief David Zinsner. "We will certainly see costs increase."

"Demand for older-generation chips is a flashing macro signal," Michael Ashley Schulman, chief investment officer at Running Point Capital, told Reuters. "In a shaky economic climate, 'good enough' beats bleeding edge."

Elsewhere in the earnings report, new Intel CEO Lip Bi-Tan confirmed reports that the company will be laying off a number of employees, undertaking a major restructuring, and those on hybrid work schedules will need to increase the number of days they come into the office from the current three to at least four.

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Most AI companies have not been able to market AI successfully to end users outside of AI assistants that often produce inaccurate/questionable responses to simple queries. AI is quite a niche product currently so of course its going to be difficult to sell more expensive dedicated hardware especially when there are websites that can provide you with access to AI assistants without the need for any local AI processing.

 
Yeah, it's definitely the tariffs. Who would pass up the opportunity for one of these great AI chips for any other reason. The tariffs have jacked the prices......oops, tariffs not on chips yet. And the computing performance of the phenomenal new AI chips is sooo much faster......oops, scratch that too, they perform worse than the last gen. Well, at least they take advantage of Intel's latest fabrication tech for better.....wait, that doesn't work either, they're fabricated at TSMC. Well, at least they are NEW, and they do cost MORE. so it must be the tariffs.

I can't wait to read how the tariffs increase cancer risk and cause toenail fungus too. Why not, in this case, Intel has NOTHING to do with why these chips sit on the shelf.
 
2 weeks ago a guy I know had his 14900K fail. Ofc, he had latest BIOS installed in the 1st place and applied the "microcode update".

Hilariously, he trusted Intel so much that he changed all of his PC components first b4 having to admit that it's the CPU. He was in denial all along.

I tried to talk him out of this but he didn't listen. Here's a brief summary of a few 14900K fails at Amazon.com:

Read the XP of certified users AFTER they installed Intel's microcode. It's rly hilarious:

"I purchased this chip after the microcode update from Intel, and I had the latest BIOS. And yet, the stability is horrendous. Two months after the purchase, my machine began to throw many CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT BSODs, and nothing was stable--from Google Chrome to even just booting up"

Another guy:

"HOWEVER the 14 series is stupid as hell... it offers NO benefit in 99.9% of situations over 13 series... I upgraded from a 12700k, and saw only minor improvements, and at the expense of power cost. My desktop now idles at 150-250 watts... before with my 12700k it was idling at like half that. in most cases a lot of people wont care, however being forced to live in a high cost of living state like CA, where electricity is $0.44 per kwh, that means just idling is costing me 0.11 per hour, that's $1000 a year just in idling... plus all the electricity my house uses."

Another guy:

"There's also the constant issue of certain games/programs just refusing to run in Multithread/Multicore, or using the E-cores inappropriately."

Another guy:

"This processor was less than a year old before it started experiencing a known defect which caused my computer to blue screen when I was compiling shaders or playing games. I discovered that this was a known issue with the product that Intel admitted to."

Another guy:

"But using this chip has been worst experience I ever had with any personal builds. Even after, running all bios and firmware, I couldn't find a solution to the non stop crashing while gaming or using any programs. Please stay away, one year in and mo solution. Never had this problem before, many buyers had and are facing the same issue."

These are all 2025 reviews by customers who already applied Intel's "microcode" fixes and bios updates.

I wouldn't touch 13/14th gen with a barge pole.
 
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