Religious exemption? wt actual f? what is that, 16th century?
It's the USA, so when it comes to religion, it may as well be.
Considering the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines relied on research from aborted fetal cell lines in its early R&D, for some it’s unethical to take any of the approved vaccines currently in existence. For >90% of the population this is of no concern, but the other vaccines are mass produced by actually growing cells stemming from an aborted human fetus from the 70s and the cells are filtered out of the final product. Abortion is morally wrong for many in the world, so you could see why there could be religious concerns around the vaccines (and precisely because it isn’t the 16th century anymore lol).
This idea of "ethics" is such garbage. I'm not saying you agree with it because you seem to be explaining how these people
don't think. It's a completely lame-duck excuse and here's why:
If religious people were so concerned with being unethical, they wouldn't be a part of these religions, all of which (except maybe Buddhism) are guilty of at least one
genocide. In fact, the Christian church is directly responsible for more deaths in history than the German National Socialists Party. If these people had "ethics", they'd consider current religious symbols to be at least as offensive as a tilted swastika. Their "ethics" are extremely elective and subjective as a result.
Back when the schools still taught history and we learned about the nazification of Germany, we often wondered how a country could go along with, what from the outside is an obvious social mass psychosis. Well, apparently there are a majority of people who just do what seems to be the new normal thing of today.
Yeah, it's called "following your doctor's orders". I remember a time when THAT was considered wisdom. Oh wait, it still is. No wonder I remember!
Oddly enough it started with medical fascism back then to. It was all about health.
But I guess we are going to force the dirty disgusting disease-riddled unvaccinated out on the streets because if they don’t vaccinate agains a cold then your vaccine won’t work.
At least back then we had personalities and uniforms. Now it is bland, uniformless but fascism nonetheless.
If you really had studied about the Nazis and fascism then you'd know that they were completely about ideology, not objective truth. That's how they convinced their entire country that the Jews were the source of their problems instead of pointing to the real source, the Treaty of Versailles. Enough people bought into the propaganda that six million Jews were slaughtered.
In this case, baseless propaganda is the weapon of the anti-vaxxers because it has no basis in any objective truth, something that has been repeatedly
proven in courts of law, regardless of the judge's political leanings. They are the ones who are most likely to turn fascist because they are the easiest to fool and are already leaning in that direction from a political standpoint (fascism is on the far right).
If what you so hyperbolically refer to as "fascism" actually was, you'd be put to death just for saying so and the people who aren't vaccinated would be imprisoned in concentration camps.
Are the Gestapo knocking at your door? - Nope
Are there concentration camps full of anti-vaxxers? - Nope
So I guess that it's not fascism, you just want to call it that because it's the new cool right-wing anti-vax word of the month.
BTW, I was kidding about the Gestapo. They don't knock.
I think it's a fine line between personal freedoms and the right of an employer to demand certain qualifications to do your job. Whether that's a level of competency or simply physical fitness. We live in a world where employers have more responsibility towards their employee's health than ever before. The Army for example expects you to be getting various shots before deployment, if you refused then you were toast. Likewise, there are still allowable exemptions.
What I see is the employers placing a higher value on the vaccinated majority than the unvaccinated minority. People with riskier lifestyles pay more for insurance as well. That's just how it is. You have the right to choose the most dangerous path you want to take but you don't have the right to drag everyone else down that path with you.
I see where you're going with the Nazi Germany health and social 'programs' however that's a very long jump in my opinion from this. They are so well documented and known it's a bit extreme to think we're sliding towards thinly veiled pogroms. Come on.
I don't see it at all. It's complete hyperbole designed to attack the side of the fence that believes in medical science. Every single time an anti-vaxxer has been in court about this, they've lost. They've lost because a court of law requires EVIDENCE and all of the evidence is stacked against them, kind of like when every Trump attempt at challenging the election outcome also lost. This has been true whether the judge was a Democrat or Republican (even TRUMP-APPOINTED Republicans). These outcomes tell you that the truth isn't political, it just is.
The anti-vaxxers believe in objective lies. It's not that much of a stretch since most of them also think that the bible is a non-fiction book.
Nearly all modern medicine have its roots in moraly challenging experiments, incuding 2ww. Cell lines created on fetus cells is already just a set of cells, artificially raised and breed in labs for decades.
And nearly all modern vacines, not only covid ones, are used those cells in development process.
Yeah, they always seem to
conveniently forget about that part.
Pope himself gave clear instructions on this very topic:
VATICAN CITY (CNS) — The Vatican’s doctrinal office said that when alternative vaccines are not available, it is morally acceptable to receive COVID-19 vaccines developed or tested using cell lines originating from aborted fetuses. However, […]
www.catholicnews.com
To be fair, the anti-vaxxers tend to be overwhelmingly evangelical. Catholics tend to be far less crazy and far less likely to be on the far-right than evangelicals.
and still, I can come up with any bs religion and back up any stupidity I want, because religion told me so.
Yup, the lame excuse that people have used far too often through history.
That's why in secular countries religion should be secondary to the law, without any exceptions.
I agree and would go so far as to say that secular law should have supremacy over religion
everywhere.