Interior Department orders grounding of Chinese drones over national security concerns

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The big picture: After looking into national security concerns about the surveillance potential of drones made in China, the US Interior Department has chosen to ground its fleet and use it only in case of emergency. Interestingly, this isn't just about Chinese espionage as DOI officials want to assess all possible actors that might represent a threat in this regard.

While the trade tensions between China and the US have eased a bit thanks to new agreements signed by presidents Xi Jinping and Donald Trump, it doesn't mean there's less paranoia in town.

Recently, the secretary of the Interior Department has issued a no-fly order for all drones made in China or using parts built in the region, with the sole exception of situations where they are needed to aid rapid response teams, such as for natural disasters and rescue operations.

This is just a step up from what the US Department of the Interior did last year when it grounded its fleet consisting of around 800 drones, mainly because of concerns that they might be sending sensitive information back to China to aid in spying operations. The DOI uses these drones for a number of different tasks like monitoring dams, erosion, endangered species, as well as energy and transportation infrastructure, so this raises the question whether to trust that they aren't used for espionage by foreign entities.

During an interview with the Wall Street Journal, Interior Secretary David Bernhardt said that he came to the recent decision after investigating the potential security risks from drones, so his department will make exceptions for tracking wildfires or saving human lives, as well as training flights.

And while China wasn't mentioned directly, it is definitely the main target of the order. Bernhardt says "it does not specifically mention Chinese [drones] because we wanted to leave it open in case there are additional foreign-made sources that may be issues."

Popular drone maker DJI was quick to slam the order as "part of a politically-motivated agenda to reduce market competition and support domestically produced drone technology, regardless of its merits." The manufacturer argues that such decisions ignores the fact that the industry relies on a global supply chain and that validation tests made by US federal agencies haven't found any reasons for suspicion.

According to Interior representative Carol Danko, 121 of the DOI's drones are made by DJI, while the rest use Chinese parts but are made by other manufacturers.

The DOI's decision adds on top of other governmental bans and restrictions that have been placed on telecom infrastructure equipment from Huawei and surveillance system manufacturer Hikvision. And while DJI's defensive statements do look similar to Huawei's, it's hard to ignore that even if the concerns are warranted, the US hasn't exactly filled the technological gap with locally-produced drones.

Some speculate this is all part of a "New Cold War," but the more pressing matter is that those drones present cost and safety advantages over using human-flown helicopters and planes. A former DOI firefighter attests to these benefits, but rising national security concerns seem to trump them anyway.

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What a joke. Just how clueless are these people that they think the drones will send info to china when they are not even connected to the internet?!

I hopefully expect all the dollar store plastic toys to be sent back to China also because they might be spying on the children that will get them etc.
Infact just take everything with "made in china" and ban it!!!
 
What a joke. Just how clueless are these people that they think the drones will send info to china when they are not even connected to the internet?!

I hopefully expect all the dollar store plastic toys to be sent back to China also because they might be spying on the children that will get them etc.
Infact just take everything with "made in china" and ban it!!!


If I rigged a Drone with a Go Pro Hero 8 and an iPhone...then yes... it would be connected to the internet - live streaming - as I fly it.

DRONEs pretty much show you exactly why we'll never have flying cars.

YES they are a security concern over sensitive areas.

YES they are dangerous to aircraft.

NO there's no easy way to shoot them down or stop them from intruding in sensitive areas.
 
This awful nationalism and xenophobia sweeping through the States (and other parts of the world) driven by leaders who seem to relish causing dissent and mistrust to secure their own position is so depressing. And the internet is now rife with small-minded people (and bot farms) that lap it up and in true empty-bottle fashion shout the loudest.
 
If I rigged a Drone with a Go Pro Hero 8 and an iPhone...then yes... it would be connected to the internet - live streaming - as I fly it.

DRONEs pretty much show you exactly why we'll never have flying cars.

YES they are a security concern over sensitive areas.

YES they are dangerous to aircraft.

NO there's no easy way to shoot them down or stop them from intruding in sensitive areas.

COMPLETELY off topic with this post! The topic is CHINESE made drones on their own with no internet access on their own being a security risk due to their firmware.

Not iphones and not gopros!
 
If I rigged a Drone with a Go Pro Hero 8 and an iPhone...then yes... it would be connected to the internet - live streaming - as I fly it.

DRONEs pretty much show you exactly why we'll never have flying cars.

YES they are a security concern over sensitive areas.

YES they are dangerous to aircraft.

NO there's no easy way to shoot them down or stop them from intruding in sensitive areas.

They just need some birds of prey... like an eagle with a D'eagle.
 
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What a joke. Just how clueless are these people that they think the drones will send info to china when they are not even connected to the internet?!

I hopefully expect all the dollar store plastic toys to be sent back to China also because they might be spying on the children that will get them etc.
Infact just take everything with "made in china" and ban it!!!

Except they do have internet access - you can connect them through your phone to the internet.
 
Except they do have internet access - you can connect them through your phone to the internet.
So just don't do that?
The purpose of these port security drones is just to check for hidden drugs/people/etc. on the ships. There is zero need for them to be connected, even if they required a wifi signal to operate you could simply set up a local wifi with no internet gateway.

The decision is political and it's stupid xenophobia at its best!
 
So just don't do that?
The purpose of these port security drones is just to check for hidden drugs/people/etc. on the ships. There is zero need for them to be connected, even if they required a wifi signal to operate you could simply set up a local wifi with no internet gateway.

The decision is political and it's stupid xenophobia at its best!

It's not xenophobic since the Chinese are known to spy on everyone and that has been proven
 
It's not xenophobic since the Chinese are known to spy on everyone and that has been proven
Hmm, and the USA has never been guilty of said actions ever???? C'mon you guys! This is total bullshit and you all know it, this whole hate crime is because the USA is so far behind in the technology world that anything from any other country is painted black and deceitful no matter what the case is. Keep the hatred rolling so you can keep your arms factories running. That is why you need to have enemies.
 
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OK

first of all, those aren’t “flying cars”

those are “driving helicopters “

Secondly, anything flying will be under jurisdiction of the FAA.

Next time you feel the urge to reply: stop...think...don’t.
 
Hmm, and the USA has never been guilty of said actions ever???? C'mon you guys! This is total bullshit and you all know it, this whole hate crime is because the USA is so far behind in the technology world that anything from any other country is painted black and deceitful no matter what the case is. Keep the hatred rolling so you can keep your arms factories running. That is why you need to have enemies.

If the US is far behind the technology curve as you said, then why would China steal their technology?
 
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