Japan increases punishment for online insults to one year in prison following reality...

wiyosaya

Posts: 7,949   +6,985
Who recalls Lennon's song "Imagine"
Imagine if there were standards of behavior.
The USA had standards but the "who are you to judge me movement won"
And the thing is everyone judges a multitude of things everyday
The US has standards and they appear to be morphing into "You will only do what we tell you you can do." I don't know about you, but I don't call that "freedom."
 

Nobina

Posts: 3,872   +4,364
Having consequences for actions can make you think before being a shiphead though
It can, but it doesn't do it for these people, otherwise they wouldn't be commiting things that could get them into trouble. Punishment shouldn't be too harsh or to lenient.
 

rmcrys

Posts: 239   +200
How close are they to a civil war? How many get shot at school/shopping/praying? How many countries have they invaded lately?

The US is the worst example
Who is talking about the US? One more X vs. US when most of the people here are not in the US, there are hundreds of other countries and examples.

The truth is: people need RELATIVE freedom.

- If you get too much freedom (of speech for example), bad things happen (as insults, bullying, etc. )

- if you are removed from your freedom, bad things happen (dictatorship, only one line of thinking which limits freedom and options, etc. )

So, somewhere in-between is the best. Internet should be free, but what is done must be regulated and not "everything is allowed", as that affects lives. Example: if someone is allowed to lie about me, it may affect all my life; if someone is allowed to harass me, or may affect my life. So that must be controlled.

Nowadays most Youngs do "whatever they want, I should be allowed to" which limits my freedom, security and tranquility, not to mention of children which are much more exposed.
 

wiyosaya

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Pretty difficult given that in Japanese you'll be pressed to find anything remotely offensive to say. I think this covers cyber bullying.

Have you been to Japan?
Have you? I think that what I said is discernable through astute observation of how the Japanese treat each other.
 

Axle Grease

Posts: 263   +212
There's nothing inherently wrong with insults. Context is everything. They're often deserved in response to irrational and malevolent deeds. It's no fault of the person that made the insult if, unknown to him or her, the recipient is emotionally unstable.
 

bexwhitt

Posts: 600   +316
All of this progressive "defund the police" and don't charge for minor crimes. No wonder the US is turning into a cesspool of crime in areas where they are running the show. BLM groups can burn down cities without consequence.
defund the police means keep them doing their core job and leave everything else they have been seconded to do to people more qualified. REpublicant citys have more crime regardless of what you have heard on faux news.
 

terzaerian

Posts: 1,468   +2,141
defund the police means keep them doing their core job and leave everything else they have been seconded to do to people more qualified. REpublicant citys have more crime regardless of what you have heard on faux news.
This is *****ic. "Restricting police to their core job" is precisely what in the long term results in deaths like Floyd's - beat cops become alienated from the communities they are meant to serve, because the resources don't exist to deploy neighborhood patrols, and every call is simply serviced by whoever is available.

But then, I guess it is too much of a stretch to assume you people want to actually fix problems rather than foment your base by causing more tragedies.
 

Alexmx

Posts: 59   +59
Stuff and nonsense. The 10 leading causes of child death in the USA are:
- Motor vehicle crash
- Firearm-related injury
- Malignant neoplasm
- Suffocation
- Drowning
- Drug overdose/poisoning
- Congenital anomalies
- Heart disease
- Fire or burns
- Chronic lower respiratory disease

As for child and adolescent suicides, they're increasing primarily because of the social isolation from Covid shutdowns. And despite the media's gaslighting the issue, any child who kills themself because of an insult posted to social media has severe underlying emotional issues, issues that would have almost certainly resulted in the same end result at some point regardless.

nice whataboutism.
 

ferrellsl

Posts: 78   +73
Japan is awesome. This should be commended. Free speech has lost all meaning in North America the last few years especially. It's being abused that's for sure.

I recently saw a video about Japan's lost and found. Something like 80-90% recovery for wallets. You can even submit things you'd never think anyone would bother wasting time and money returning. Their bullet trains are so precisely timed that it has been late only once I believe. Inflation at ~2% for decades, etc etc. Sounds amazing. I'd love to visit someday.
Fascist much? I guess you never heard the old adage about sticks and stones nor figured out that no one is forced to see or hear insults. All devices have power switches last time I checked.
 

Avro Arrow

Posts: 2,574   +3,135
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Well, all I can say is "It's about 'effin' time!". Once again, North America fails to take the lead in societal progress. Even very-conservative Japan has one-upped North America while the EU does it on the daily.

We're in decline and seem to be thrilled to death about it.
 

Mr Majestyk

Posts: 1,345   +1,228
Problems with people that are mentally ill happen in all countries. Has nothing to do with freedoms. Some countries would never report such an incident.

What a load of horse crap. Typical Retardican deflect to blame it on mental illness and rather than the egregious gun laws. You scumbags deserve all you get. Already close to 300 mass shootings in 6 months and Retardicans and NRA low lifes still in denial
 

p51d007

Posts: 3,289   +2,882
Sucks I guess but I bet she would've done it eventually. Just don't see that being the single factor in that one.


According to online articles, she was bullied since she was a kid, due to her mixed race. Wouldn't take much to push one over the edge.
But, in our woke world, if you say something that some other person takes offense to, the cancel culture comes out.
 

p51d007

Posts: 3,289   +2,882
How close are they to a civil war? How many get shot at school/shopping/praying? How many countries have they invaded lately?

The US is the worst example to put up against other countries as an example of better, right now. Trump grabs women by the you know what and still got elected, and you think Japan is chauvinist?!

Wow...he hasn't been president for a year and a half...but ya just have to bring him up.
TDS much?
 

Endymio

Posts: 1,794   +1,834
Well, all I can say is "It's about 'effin' time!".

1516 AD. Erasmus: 'In a free state, tongues too should be free.'

1633 Galileo Galilei hauled before the Inquisition for claiming the sun does not revolve around the earth.

1644 The poet John Milton, argues against restrictions of freedom of expression. 'He who destroys a good book, kills reason itself.'

1689 Bill of Rights grants 'freedom of speech in Parliament' after James II is overthrown.

1770 Voltaire: "I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you to continue to write."

1789 AD. 'The Declaration of the Rights of Man', a fundamental document of the French Revolution, provides for freedom of speech .

1791 The US Bill of Rights guarantees freedom of speech.

1859 TH Huxley publicly defends Charles Darwin against religious fundamentalists attempting to silence him.

1929 Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, of the US Supreme Court, outlines his belief in free speech: 'The principle of free thought is not free thought for those who agree with us but freedom for the thought we hate.'

1948 The Universal Declaration of Human Rights is adopted unanimously by the UN General Assembly. It urges member nations to promote freedom of expression and religion.

1962 A Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn writes his first book, after 10 years in a Soviet labour camp for speaking out against Stalin.

1989 Iranian leader Ayatollah Khomeini issues a fatwa against Salman Rushdie over the 'blasphemous' content of his novel, The Satanic Verses.

1992 Noam Chomsky: "Goebbels was in favour of free speech for views he liked. So was Stalin. If you're in favour of free speech, then you're in favour of freedom of speech precisely for views you despise."
 

wiyosaya

Posts: 7,949   +6,985
According to online articles, she was bullied since she was a kid, due to her mixed race. Wouldn't take much to push one over the edge.
But, in our woke world, if you say something that some other person takes offense to, the cancel culture comes out. On both sides.
FTFY
 

wiyosaya

Posts: 7,949   +6,985
1516 AD. Erasmus: 'In a free state, tongues too should be free.'

1633 Galileo Galilei hauled before the Inquisition for claiming the sun does not revolve around the earth.

1644 The poet John Milton, argues against restrictions of freedom of expression. 'He who destroys a good book, kills reason itself.'

1689 Bill of Rights grants 'freedom of speech in Parliament' after James II is overthrown.

1770 Voltaire: "I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you to continue to write."

1789 AD. 'The Declaration of the Rights of Man', a fundamental document of the French Revolution, provides for freedom of speech .

1791 The US Bill of Rights guarantees freedom of speech.

1859 TH Huxley publicly defends Charles Darwin against religious fundamentalists attempting to silence him.

1929 Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, of the US Supreme Court, outlines his belief in free speech: 'The principle of free thought is not free thought for those who agree with us but freedom for the thought we hate.'

1948 The Universal Declaration of Human Rights is adopted unanimously by the UN General Assembly. It urges member nations to promote freedom of expression and religion.

1962 A Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn writes his first book, after 10 years in a Soviet labour camp for speaking out against Stalin.

1989 Iranian leader Ayatollah Khomeini issues a fatwa against Salman Rushdie over the 'blasphemous' content of his novel, The Satanic Verses.

1992 Noam Chomsky: "Goebbels was in favour of free speech for views he liked. So was Stalin. If you're in favour of free speech, then you're in favour of freedom of speech precisely for views you despise."
Nice try. But conveniently leaving out SCOTUS decisions that limit free speech in the US.
 

ZedRM

Posts: 1,151   +800
Japan is awesome. This should be commended. Free speech has lost all meaning in North America the last few years especially. It's being abused that's for sure.

I recently saw a video about Japan's lost and found. Something like 80-90% recovery for wallets. You can even submit things you'd never think anyone would bother wasting time and money returning. Their bullet trains are so precisely timed that it has been late only once I believe. Inflation at ~2% for decades, etc etc. Sounds amazing. I'd love to visit someday.
This comment is an example of what is wrong with the world. Free speech is a right not a privilege.

We all, as individuals, are accountable for our own actions, including how we react to harsh words expressed by others. If you are angry, offended or hurt by something someone else says to you, YOU have have the problem. Why you ask? Simple:
You are letting someone make you angry.
You are letting someone offend you.
You are letting someone hurt your feelings.

Other people and what they say are NOT the problem, you are. How do you solve this? Choice.
Choose not to let someone else anger you.
Choose not to let someone else offend you.
Choose not to let someone else hurt your feelings.
Choose to view them for what they are, sad little bullies not worth your time.

At the end of the day, it's YOUR life and YOUR choices.
Choose to be stalwart and ignore the fools of life or choose to walk around all the time offended, hurt and angry.
Either way, the choice is yours and no law or government can ever help you with it.