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Jeff Bezos introduces Blue Moon and his plans for space colonization

By Cal Jeffrey · 17 replies
May 10, 2019
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  1. At a speech in Washington, Jeff Bezos revealed Blue Moon — a huge lunar lander that can transport 3.6 tons of cargo to the Moon’s surface. The craft has been in development for three years and will be used to shuttle scientific equipment and other payloads, maybe even humans.

    The Blue Moon will be powered by Blue Origin’s new BE-7 engine, which is capable of 10,000 pounds of thrust. Engineers will be test firing the BE-7 for the first time in West Texas sometime this summer.

    Bezos indicated that he is behind sending people up as well. Regarding US Vice President Mike Pence’s goal of having humans on the Moon by 2024, the Amazon head said he was all for it.

    “I love this,” he told the DC crowd. “It’s the right thing to do. We can help meet that timeline but only because we started three years ago. It's time to go back to the Moon — this time to stay.”

    He said that if they equipped the Blue Moon with “stretch tanks” it would be able to transport an additional 2.9 tons of cargo. The extra space would be enough for a “crewed ascent vehicle.”

    The Washington Post notes that Bezos did not indicate whether he would be seeking contracts from NASA for payload deliveries, but considering that he is reportedly burning through about a billion dollars per year on Blue Origin, contract requests seem likely.

    However, Bezos stopped short of saying we should colonize the Moon. His vision is to build colonies called O’Neill cylinders, named for their creator Gerard O’Neill.

    These free-floating colonies are made up of two counter-rotating cylinders as to cancel out gyroscopic effects that would knock them out of alignment to the sun. Each tube would be five miles in diameter and twenty miles long. The rotation would provide artificial gravity and energy would be supplied via solar panels on the tubes’ exterior.

    Bezos imagines a million people living in each cylinder in climate-controlled utopias.

    “This is Maui on its best day all year long,” he said. “No rain. No earthquakes. People are going to want to live here.”

    Of course, this is not likely something that Bezos can finish in his lifetime. He said his job is to “build the road” that could lead to such colonization. The only two obstacles he sees are the costs associated with entering space and discovering ways to utilize off-planet resources.

    Both problems are priority items that Blue Origin has been working toward with the New Shepard launch system and the Blue Moon lander. He believes that if we can build the infrastructure, future generations can accomplish almost anything in space.

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  2. VitalyT

    VitalyT Russ-Puss Posts: 4,463   +3,024

    You do not colonize space. Check the word meaning, it refers to a fixed area/ground.

    After such statements, we should send Bezos there first, see how long it will take him to develop Pandorum Syndrome and start crying for home.
     
    Last edited: May 12, 2019
  3. bluetooth fairy

    bluetooth fairy TS Booster Posts: 88   +61

    Mmm?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization
     
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  4. VitalyT

    VitalyT Russ-Puss Posts: 4,463   +3,024

    Yeah, like "Best Places to Colonize", written by Green Fly.
     
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  5. Tantor

    Tantor TS Enthusiast Posts: 43   +59

    Wow! Here's a video of a smaller 7000lb engine. It gives you an idea of the power.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbtvFIEBJdA

    The Apollo Lunar Landers had descent thrusters rated at around 10,000 lbs. One of the big reasons people have been so skeptical about the Lunar Landings is the engines didn't blow any of the soft lunar dust away from under the landers. The astronauts left deep boot prints in the dust right under the nozzle.
     
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  6. tkabou

    tkabou TS Enthusiast Posts: 35   +43

    Pretty sure these space "colonies" will become the vacation resorts for the elites while we enjoy our apartment view of some landfill..
     
  7. treetops

    treetops TS Evangelist Posts: 2,552   +544

    Utopia will be created on earth before the moon...
     
  8. Cal Jeffrey

    Cal Jeffrey TS Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 1,753   +415

    He envisions colonies in O'Neill cylinders. Did I forget to put that in?
     
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  9. Uncle Al

    Uncle Al TS Evangelist Posts: 5,377   +3,770

    Why is it these kind of guys (Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, etc) keep wanting to solve problems that do not seriously exist? There is PLENTY to do here on earth. Maybe if they could put their minds to work solving issues like Global Warming, Mass Starvation, Drug Resistance in disease, etc, etc. they they would establish a worthwhile legacy for themselves. At least Bill Gates is starting to come around and develop solutions to worldwide problems that are achievable .... maybe he should invite Jeff & Elon to one of his seminars so they could get their heads on straight ....... !
     
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  10. ghostf1re

    ghostf1re TS Guru Posts: 414   +265

    Developing tech like this is not just about going somewhere. There was tech developed in the 60's when we were working to get to the moon that was valuable beyond space travel. Don't get pulled into this garbage where there's nothing we need to do out there because we have plenty to do down here. Exploration is still important.
     
  11. Lounds

    Lounds TS Addict Posts: 193   +114

    Yup, they should be solving world hunger first, disease second and cancer third.

    "It's time to go back to the moon" we never went lol.
     
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  12. rub900

    rub900 TS Booster Posts: 101   +34

    Can we launch Jeff into space without a suit? I would give money for that.
     
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  13. VitalyT

    VitalyT Russ-Puss Posts: 4,463   +3,024

    I'd want to live on the moon after this also...
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  14. wiyosaya

    wiyosaya TS Evangelist Posts: 3,950   +2,267

    I have to wonder what flights of fancy drive people like Bezos and Musk.

    IMO, this is just as outrageous if not more so than anything that Musk has proposed. Building just one of these "cylinders" would likely bankrupt Bezos and, if he were to get a loan for this, I bet he would be paying it back beyond his lifetime.

    So sorry to shock you back to reality, Jeff, this just is not going to happen at any time in your lifetime. Even you, Jeff, cannot afford it.
     
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  15. wiyosaya

    wiyosaya TS Evangelist Posts: 3,950   +2,267

    Having Gates talk to them would not do any good, IMO. They would both blow Gates off as a dizzy old man; Musk and Bezos are incapable of hearing anything reasonable from anyone reasonable. Bezos is plainly having a mid-life crisis since he thinks his new girlfriend is going to give him something that his "worn-out" wife cannot

    IMO, Musk and Bezos are both narcissists interested in immortalizing their names, and their heads have been massively inflated through the visions of grandeur that their fortunes supposedly afford them.
     
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  16. Cal Jeffrey

    Cal Jeffrey TS Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 1,753   +415

    To be fair, Bezos did not say that he plans to build O'Neill cylinders. He is leaving that for future generations. All he said was that he wants to be part of building the infrastructure that can make it happen. He also mentioned that he envisioned the cylinders being built from off-planet resources to reduce the costs.
     
  17. wiyosaya

    wiyosaya TS Evangelist Posts: 3,950   +2,267

    Thanks for pointing that out.

    The scale of these things are immense, and IMO, it is likely that they are several hundred years in the future if they ever get built. There is so much that needs to be developed for this to happen not the least of which is how to provide enough radiation shielding to make them habitable for long-term human residency.

    I do agree, though, that off-world resources would be the best option for building material. Asteroids, IMO, are a vast, yet presently untapped resource.
     
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  18. Markoni35

    Markoni35 TS Booster Posts: 187   +90

    After a divorce you just wanna go as far as possible...
     

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