Kyle Rittenhouse defense claims Apple's 'AI' manipulates footage when using pinch-to-zoom

Irata

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Either he shouldn't be there OR there are law enforcers there, enforcing the law.
It's a direct causation. You see it everywhere in this planet. Absent of law/authority, everyone end up kill every other ones.
Police is product of civililzation. Everywhere. Not only in "raycist american". But of course, most americans only know that the world ends on their west and east coast. So...
True, law enforcement should have been there. Still that doesn‘t make it a good idea for an inexperienced kid to cross state lines and play lawman. It obviously did not do him well.

This wasn‘t a last stand / alien invasion kind of situation.

That said, one could argue if those who were politically responsible on a city / state level might have been OK with the riots but that doesn‘t make the kid‘s decision any better. I still think he had no business being there.
 
If you look at the situation and the judge history at all you should all know that regardless of the tech idiocy in display here (as in, with or without) the kid's walking out free.

As he should considering he shot these people in self-defense. As well, the judge does not decide whether Kyle is acquitted or not, the jury does. And if they’re paying any attention to the evidence he will rightfully be acquitted. You can’t bring a decedents criminal history into trial so Rosenbaum being a pedophile has nothing to do with the fact that Kyle should be acquitted but my personal feelings are he got better than he deserved. Rosenbaum should’ve been killed in a slow painful matter not the quick death that he got. I fully believe that had he gotten that gun from Kyle he would’ve turned it on the crowd, his history of mental health issues, suicide attempts, sexually assaulting multiple children, beating multiple women, his erratic behavior that night… Kyle is a hero who saved countless lives that night and those of you saying he’s a murderer are the only ones politicizing this case.
 
The kid is innocent end of case. And the Prosecutor is a complete joke LOL. Feel like I am watching a soap opera just by the type of questions he is asking. I love how media is trying to make it a race and bias thing.

Binger purposely trying to provoke a mistrial was comical. He is losing horribly which is to be expected considering that boy clearly shot those people in self-defense. People politicizing this case don’t even seem to grasp the fact that you can’t bring those politics into a trial. And Binger is an experience trial lawyer who knows What he’s doing. Not only was he trying to provoke a mistrial without prejudice he’s trying to make the judge out to be a villain to continue to sway public opinion. Every move he makes his calculated and the people falling for it really need to open their eyes.

Articles like these that technically report the facts, just in a very selective and intentional order, are doing nothing to help this issue. How many sites have reported on the judge refusing to let the decedents be called victims? That’s been his rule for over 20 years but nobody likes to mention that. The entire job of the trial is to prove whether they were victims or not so of course you can’t call them victims ahead of a verdict! What a circus.
 
As I see it, I think you, and @Uncle Al, have hit the nail firmly on the head. Gun advocates in the US seem to think that the US constitution gives them the right to own and possess guns freely without any restrictions. I'm not a lawyer, much less a Constitutional lawyer, but I think any reasonable reading of the US constitution, given when it was written, would have to conclude that the only reason that any kind of "gun rights" was included in the constitution was because it was intended, in the absence of something like the US Military (Army, Navy, etc.) as a defense for the United States against attempts to take over the US.


And he was not legally deputized to enforce the law. As I see it, he is/was a product of a society that essentially mandates that people do something selfless to prove their worth to society. Unfortunately, I think his choice in this matter was far from wise.

Rittenhouse admitted he was not legally allowed to own the gun, and without his possession of the gun, I bet he would not have been emboldened to be there at all, and the killings HE committed would not have happened.

Again, I am not a lawyer, however, I think this judge just made a grave mistake by accepting the argument by the defense that the AI/pinch-imaging algorithms manipulate the image by adding/removing things that are not there, forcing the prosecution to prove that is not the case, and giving no time for the prosecution to prepare an argument in their favor. If Rittenhouse is found innocent, the prosecution will have an ideal opportunity for appeal because of this issue alone. As those who investigate specious claims in other fields know, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. The judge simply took the opinion of the defense as proof of what they claimed without any actual evidence of the AI/Algorithms showing things not there in any case whatsoever. :facepalm:
Assuming the algorithms are implemented correctly, they follow the same principles of similar image enhancement algorithms, and similar algorithms have been implemented based on sound and proven theory to not add things that are not there.

You are incorrect. No appeal would ever be granted on this topic alone. For there to be grounds for appeal the issue at hand has to rise with certain level of causation which this absolutely does not. When would have to prove that this piece of evidence was enough to implicitly change all the jurors minds. Zooming in on one video they’ve seen from multiple angles multiple times throughout the trial would not have done so. Binger is desperate for anything because he knows he’s losing his case because he prosecuted it because of public opinion. This is exactly how they Casey Anthony trial was lost. Prosecution rushing to make their case because the public demanded it. Except in this case the defendant is actually not guilty of the worse charges. Binger is a very intelligent prosecutor who is pushing for a mistrial, and is intentionally attempting to villanize the judge to further sway public opinion. Every move he makes is very calculated. His provocation of the judge was just as deliberate as every question he has asked every witness.
 

Beerfloat

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He had no reason to be there.
He had no reason to be there and bring a gun.
He had no reason to be there and bring an illegal gun.
He had no reason to be there during a curfew and bring an illegal gun.

I don't think he should walk away from this without consequences.
However, even the worst people deserve some sort of legal defense, and it is pitiful that all those ghouls paying for his lawyers can not find someone whose ability to present a reasonable argument folds as soon as tech is involved.
 

maxxcool7421

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The whole case like with the Floyd police is politically motivated, he'll be lucky not to be found guilty of 1st, 2nd and 3rd degree all at the same time.

good.. that would work for me. you take a firearm that's only purpose is to kill people into a conflict zone under false pretenses "not expecting trouble", pee your little boy panties when real people chase you and panic and shoot them you should get all three and a office space sentence.

this poor kid was brain washed by brodozer luvin' deep-right nazis .. but he is still responsible. In reality him getting mansuaghter-2 is a gamble based on the judges biased far right agenda. But at least this kid will self cancel himself after therapy fails and guilt eats him alive.
 
This report is an opinion piece. If you wanted to write a ligitimate news article you should refrain from making personal variations of interpretation. For instance, you assumed logarithms are not part of the Apple AI process to "pinch to zoom" but the defense easily could have been referring to the logarithms used in calculating variable objects in the algorithm used to redefine the pixlization process. Your words make you sound bias and cheap. You've already made up your mind about the outcome of the trial and the integrity of your perspective of news suffers for it.
 

Bl00dyMinded

Posts: 469   +702
He had no reason to be there.
He had no reason to be there and bring a gun.
He had no reason to be there and bring an illegal gun.
He had no reason to be there during a curfew and bring an illegal gun.

I don't think he should walk away from this without consequences.
However, even the worst people deserve some sort of legal defense, and it is pitiful that all those ghouls paying for his lawyers can not find someone whose ability to present a reasonable argument folds as soon as tech is involved.
I guess everyone else lighting up the whole city on fire and committing crimes had a reason... And idk who folded cause the Defense is winning.
 

psycros

Posts: 4,080   +5,617
I don't think that is an conclusion that can be drawn. Why the prosecutor questioned the way he did is only known to him. I think its unfortunate that most people see this as a political issue. As I see it, the question is that as a US Citizen, was Rittenhouse acting with in the laws of the land?

Yes, he was. Case closed.
 

Ben1978

Posts: 146   +105
As he should considering he shot these people in self-defense. As well, the judge does not decide whether Kyle is acquitted or not, the jury does. And if they’re paying any attention to the evidence he will rightfully be acquitted. You can’t bring a decedents criminal history into trial so Rosenbaum being a pedophile has nothing to do with the fact that Kyle should be acquitted but my personal feelings are he got better than he deserved. Rosenbaum should’ve been killed in a slow painful matter not the quick death that he got. I fully believe that had he gotten that gun from Kyle he would’ve turned it on the crowd, his history of mental health issues, suicide attempts, sexually assaulting multiple children, beating multiple women, his erratic behavior that night… Kyle is a hero who saved countless lives that night and those of you saying he’s a murderer are the only ones politicizing this case.
"Had he gotten the gun from Kyle". How about if Kyle hadn't brought an assault rifle with him and paraded around in it like he was playing paintball? Then he likely wouldn't have had the balls to be anywhere near the people he didn't like and there would have been no assault rifle in the picture. I'm not condoning the protestors/rioters but it's up to law enforcement to enforce the law. From what I've seen of the trial I think he is guilty of the reckless endangerment charge almost just by virtue of being there with an assault rifle and then using it.
 
good.. that would work for me. you take a firearm that's only purpose is to kill people into a conflict zone under false pretenses "not expecting trouble", pee your little boy panties when real people chase you and panic and shoot them you should get all three and a office space sentence.

this poor kid was brain washed by brodozer luvin' deep-right nazis .. but he is still responsible. In reality him getting mansuaghter-2 is a gamble based on the judges biased far right agenda. But at least this kid will self cancel himself after therapy fails and guilt eats him alive.
I love the fact that you believe the nazis and the right have any common ground when the nazis and even the KKK have more in common with the far left, in fact the left were the people who basically invented the KKK and funded them, the right was created to fight against the left and the KKK and slavery, its the left always trying to destroy America and the core values it was created on....like all men be created equal and free.
 

Soulburn74

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I don't get it, CSI Miami always had crisp and clear images that they could zoom in on them 1000%. I don't see why pinching and zooming in would matter.

CSI Miami would always catch a killer's reflection in a TV screen that's 20ft away and the killer's blurry face appears to be the size of a thumbnail image.....super zoom in and BAM! Crystal, clear, picture perfect image of the killer. Case closed.

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That CSI Miami magic only works because H. Takes off his glasses, has a slight pause in saying the word 'Murder' just before The Who's music kicks in.... 🤣
 

lripplinger

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Absolutely sad state of affairs in this country. Seems that many of the commenters here have not even watched the trial. They just give us the talking points from the corrupt corporate media, etc.
 

cliffordcooley

Posts: 13,141   +6,439
As I see it, I think you, and @Uncle Al, have hit the nail firmly on the head. Gun advocates in the US seem to think that the US constitution gives them the right to own and possess guns freely without any restrictions
The constitution does. Its the amendments afterward that have stripped us of our right to do so.
 

cliffordcooley

Posts: 13,141   +6,439
Lol hes going to hell anyway for killing people
If you believe the Bible any at all. Then you will know who has the final say in that. And it is not any of us. This same arrogance is also shown at every funeral. We will paint a pretty picture and say they have gone to a better place. When in reality, we don't have a clue. But that doesn't stop us from lying.
 

Dimitrios

Posts: 1,049   +855
Either he shouldn't be there OR there are law enforcers there, enforcing the law.
It's a direct causation. You see it everywhere in this planet. Absent of law/authority, everyone end up kill every other ones.
Police is product of civililzation. Everywhere. Not only in "raycist american". But of course, most americans only know that the world ends on their west and east coast. So...

aaaaaaaaaaaand this is why I work and stay home most of the time. People are crazy and my teen years are over partying, street bikes, racing looking for trouble so to speak etc.

 
It's called Interpolation. It's super common. Why is this a story?

There's frame interpolation. There's pixel interpolation. This is the latter. The defense is correct. This is just boring lawyer hoops the prosecution has to jump through but didn't bother to for some inexplicable reason. He'll do it and then the "apple ai" thing will have no bearing on the case and the evidence will be admitted.

This is nothing but a cheap clickbait headline for the most mundane part of the trial possible.
 

Beerfloat

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There's frame interpolation. There's pixel interpolation. This is the latter. The defense is correct.

No. The lawyer errs by going beyond merely questioning accuracy, and authoritatively stating that this is 'not actually enhanced video'. It is remarkable that the judge does not ask the one who makes the claim to support it, but instead places the burden of disproving it on the other side.
 

Danny101

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The kid shouldn't have been there, But neither should have the rioters, who were also from out-of-state. This is a Blackjack push. Now, moving forward. Sequence of events. Who attacked who first? There lies the solution to this case. If Kyle is charged for being there, then so should any other rioter. This is a case bracketed in politics. The prosecutor is an ardent Democrat, ran for office as a Democrat, and has yet to prosecute rioters for the destruction of property as a Democrat. This from a political side that yaps about the law and their 'Democracy". Yep. A Democracy like North Korea. The jurors have been targeted and efforts are made to intimidate, bully them into a decision the Radical Left wants. So who's tampering with this trial? Like it or not, the U.S. is in the middle of the second Civil War. It's mostly propaganda at this point, yet with very real flashpoints. It's also occurring in various countries. Frogs wising up to the slow boil being perpetuated by the global elites working together in all countries for their revolution. COVID-19 and the death jabs are very much part of the plan. If conspiracies aren't real, then why do we have laws against them? The Cold War didn't end. It morphed. Russia was attacked in 1917 by the British communists. You say that it's still authoritarian. Well, because it always has been. They went from the Tsar into the socialist revolution. They're use to it. Russia was an easy target. Socialism, communism, are BUZZWORDS by the globalist, financial elites. It has only the appearance of egalitarianism, social justice, peace, and tranquility. But then the iron grips sets in and another Stalin is born. You will never be free as long there's a consolidation of power. Getting caught up in the isms is only going to blind you to the reality that they're are all just tools to lure you into slavery. Anything can be corrupted. And making it into a system most certainly would bring it into being. For the love of money (power, control, blood, etc) is (are) the root(s) of all evil. Not the objects, as the Fake Left likes to say to thwart responsibilities, but the actions. Critical Race Theory is just a strategy to force whites to kneel, since the Left has already accomplished this in minorities. Yes, the Ku Klux Klan is running the country. The Democrats and RINO Republicans. Nothing ever happens without infiltration and disguise, a Fifth Column.
 
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Beerfloat

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The kid shouldn't have been there, But neither should have the rioters, who were also from out-of-state. This is a Blackjack push. Now, moving forward. Sequence of events. Who attacked who first? There lies the solution to this case. If Kyle is charged for being there, then so should any other rioter. This is a case bracketed in politics. The prosecutor is an ardent Democrat, ran for office as a Democrat, and has yet to prosecute rioters for the destruction of property as a Democrat. This from a political side that yaps about the law and their 'Democracy". Yep. A Democracy like North Korea.
Ok. So, if you were a prosecutor, you would do what.. let the double homicides slide until property damage cases were sorted out?

The jurors have been targeted and efforts are made to intimidate, bully them into a decision the Radical Left wants. So who's tampering with this trial? Like it or not, the U.S. is in the middle of the second Civil War. It's mostly propaganda at this point, yet with very real flashpoints. It's also occurring in various countries. Frogs wising up to the slow boil being perpetuated by the global elites working together in all countries for their revolution. COVID-19 and the death jabs are very much part of the plan.
What are 'death jabs'?

If conspiracies aren't real, then why do we have laws against them? The Cold War didn't end. It morphed. Russia was attacked in 1917 by the British communists. You say that it's still authoritarian. Well, because it always has been. They went from the Tsar into the socialist revolution. They're use to it. Russia was an easy target. Socialism, communism, are BUZZWORDS by the globalist, financial elites. It has only the appearance of egalitarianism, social justice, peace, and tranquility. But then the iron grips sets in and another Stalin is born. You will never be free as long there's a consolidation of power. Getting caught up in the isms is only going to blind you to the reality that they're are all just tools to lure you into slavery. Anything can be corrupted.
Yes! Finally some sense. Agreed, and nothing demonstrates this more clearly than the depraved sleazefest that Trump's Republican Party has become.

And making it into a system most certainly would bring it into being. For the love of money (power, control, blood, etc) is (are) the root(s) of all evil. Not the objects, as the Fake Left likes to say to thwart responsibilities, but the actions. Critical Race Theory is just a strategy to force whites to kneel, since the Left has already accomplished this in minorities.
Oh. Bless their minority hearts. I guess the good part of them being so meek and resigned to their fate is that there's hardly ever any trouble with them.

Yes, the Ku Klux Klan is running the country. The Democrats and RINO Republicans.
.. Come again?

Nothing ever happens without infiltration and disguise, a Fifth Column.
True. Listen to most Republican members of Congress, or the soulless voices of conservative media, and it's getting hard to shake the feeling that we're living Invasion of the Body Snatchers.