Listing points to possible RTX 3070 Ti with 16GB GDDR6 memory

midian182

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Rumor mill: Are you eyeing an RTX 3070 following Nvidia’s reveal of its Ampere cards this week? You might consider holding back on your purchase for a while. Several online leaks, including what looks like a pretty big one from Lenovo, suggest an RTX 3070 Ti is in the works.

As everyone knows, Nvidia announced the RTX 3070, RTX 3080, and RTX 3090 at its event on Tuesday, but Videcardz spotted a Lenovo listing for models of its Legion T7 desktops that included an RTX 3070 Ti.

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On the company’s Product Specification Reference site, there were four entries for machines that feature the unannounced card. The page mentions that the RTX 3070 Ti comes with 16GB of GDDR6, twice that of the standard RTX 3070. It’s also more than the RTX 3080’s 10GB, though that card does use GDDR6X, rather than GDDR6. We can expect the RTX 3070 Ti to keep the 256-bit memory bus, too, while the RTX 3080 features a 320-bit bus.

During its reveal event, Nvidia showed that that $499 RTX 3070, which has 5,888 CUDA cores and runs up to 1,730MHz boost clock, can outperform the Turing flagship RTX 2080 Ti, whose only better spec is its 11GB of GDDR6.

Lenovo’s listings have now been removed, so it’s best to take this with a pinch of salt; it’s possible that the company was just preparing for a card that’s not yet been confirmed.

Elsewhere, leaker _rogamer (via PC Gamer) posted a screenshot of an MSI RTX 3070 Ti with 16GB of GDDR6 memory.

No word on price but expect a RTX 3070 Ti to land somewhere between the $499 RTX 3070 and the $699 RTX 3080.

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QuantumPhysics

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No matter what happens, if they are promising a 3070 more powerful than the 2080Ti for half the price, they've done changed the entire game and obsoleted everybody else.
 

QuantumPhysics

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I'm not building a new Desktop till DDR5 is on the market with new motherboards. Thanks to 3000, my next build is gonna be SICK.
 

R00sT3R

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A 3070 with more VRAM than the 'flagship' 2080?

Yeah, no.

..At least not until next year when the inevitable 3080 Super/Ti is launched with 20GB VRAM.
 
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eforce

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Big Navi is rumoured to have 12/16GB variants so corresponding Ti variants makes sense, question is whether the 3080Ti will have 16GB or 20GB.
 

neeyik

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No matter what happens, if they are promising a 3070 more powerful than the 2080Ti for half the price, they've done changed the entire game and obsoleted everybody else.
Based on paper specifications alone, it should be around about the same - ahead in some areas, behind in others:

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So it will come down to what aspect of the GPU that the tested game is most dependent on.
 

MaitieS

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It's mostly fake. They even said in /r/Nvidia AMA that the reason why 3080 has 10GB Ram is so they could keep up the lower price. 3070Ti having 16GB seems very unlikely.
 

mbrowne5061

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This looks fake to me. I don't see any reason for Nvidia to offer 16GB VRAM at a lower price than the 3080. it muddles the waters too much.
At least not so soon. They might be going back to their old model where the non-ti cards were proving grounds for new architectures, and then the ti cards were the 'final release' and were launched 6-12 months after the non-ti version.

I doubt nVidia would launch their 3000 series ti lineup so soon, they will want to see what kind of issues - both consumer-facing and production-occurrences - crop up over the next few months.
 

Puiu

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At least not so soon. They might be going back to their old model where the non-ti cards were proving grounds for new architectures, and then the ti cards were the 'final release' and were launched 6-12 months after the non-ti version.

I doubt nVidia would launch their 3000 series ti lineup so soon, they will want to see what kind of issues - both consumer-facing and production-occurrences - crop up over the next few months.
Is the Ti version even a thing anymore? People are assuming that the Ti moniker is dead and Nvidia will use Super in the future.
 

jbc029

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If there is going to be a TI, the 3070 would be where it happens. The 3080 and 3090 are the same die (GA102). The 3090 has already been presented both as the new titan and the full GA102 die. There is no 3090ti or super coming, because there's nothing else to enable and no gaming gpu step up.

It really looks like they opened with moving current top tier to $500 because they've advanced so far, it would be more work to make something much slower.

But oddly, in the past we saw them unveil a titan and you knew a ti was coming later. Slightly cut down but ridiculously fast and at half the price. The titan was the full die and the 80ti was shorter on memory and slightly on overall core count.

Here, running by die naming, core counts and memory specs, NV opened with what would have been the Titan, 080ti and probably the actual 070 Super. The 3070 has a *huge* gap in core count from the 3080. I'd expect some beefed up GA104 to arrive at some point or some cut down GA102 smaller than the 3080
 

Lew Zealand

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Big Navi is rumoured to have 12/16GB variants so corresponding Ti variants makes sense, question is whether the 3080Ti will have 16GB or 20GB.

There's no question, it will have to be 20GB. The 3080 is a 320-bit memory design and the only way to keep that bandwidth but add more VRAM is to double it. If you brought that VRAM total down to 16GB, it'd have to be a 256-bit design, which clearly Nvidia won't do for an improved 3080.
 

neeyik

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The 3090 has already been presented both as the new titan and the full GA102 die.
If you look at the image of the GA102 and count the SMs, there's 84 in total. The 3090 has 82, so there's scope for a very minor update. Plus we don't know yet exactly how many ROPs the 3090 has - it's assumed it's 96, but Nvidia have said that each GPU has two ROP partitions, each with 8 ROPs. So if it's a 7 GPC chip (and the SM count suggests it is), then a full GA102 would have 112 ROPs.

Of course, it could well be a 6 GPC chip, which would give 96 ROPs, but then that would mean the GPC-to-TPC ratio is now 1:7, rather than the 1:6 in the GA100 and TU102. Distinctly possible, but it would be an usual change.
 

Bamda

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I am not getting a 3000 series till the Supers come out. They always seem to find more performance in the silicon. :)
 

Shadowboxer

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I reckon they’ll do ti versions of both the 3070 and 3080 and I reckon both will have a lot more RAM. Im personally not sure how I feel about gaming at 4K with just 8-10GB of RAM. Might be ok now but what about in say 3 years time? Maybe the 3070 Ti will have 16GB of RAM and the 3080 Ti will have 20GB?

We love to speculate don’t we!