Squid Surprise
Posts: 8,002 +8,278
But can they defend themselves against someone wielding a piece of fresh fruit?
Michigan bill seeks total ban on porn - and VPNs along with it
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onebignerd
Posts: 170 +114
Ridiculous idea!! The graphic lists that obscenity laws rarely enforced and no dedicated state enforcement. Since you can't enforce your current laws, outdated or not. What makes you think you'll have the resources to enforce this new law(s)? Who will be the enforcers, family social workers, local or state police, FCC, ISPs, VPNs....? There are plenty of tools to restrict children from access, Windows 10 & 11 have parental controls, many ISPs have parental controls as part of the service, Windows 10 & 11 can have time restrictions placed on computer access. The sites and their IP addresses can be blocked in Windows 10 & 11 host file (There are ready made host files online). There is plenty of third-party software to help restrict access. Parents putting the computer in a public area of the house, so usage can be monitored. Same goes for schools!
maxxcool7421
Posts: 904 +1,316
Republikans and christians making laws .. what could go wrong? ... after that they will want to ban rock music and tatoo bar codes on on people and put them in special camps and help them keep warm...
Rocky4040
Posts: 251 +323
Personally, I don't care for it but that is my own thing. What I do care about is someone thinking they know best for everyone else. If some likes it, then that is their right to choose to partake in that type of thing and is their choice not some bum in the government to make the choice. On the other hand if you do not like it then that is your choice to not partake in it and that was your choice. Do not think for a minute you have the right to make the choice on how other people live their lives. As long as their choices are legal and not hurtning anyone else then power to them. For everyone else frack the heck off.
OortCloud
Posts: 2,301 +3,315
The US continues it's slide into a faux-Christianity where true Christian behaviour is utterly absent, replaced by bigotry, misogyny and a weird puritanical far-right harking for days gone by that were never really there. Somebody needs to tell them the Handmaid's Tale was a warning not a playbook.
captaincranky
Posts: 20,445 +9,398
OK, FWIW, Monty Python didn't say that, at least not originally. They borrowed it from a WW II incident, and a song composed from it (The orchestral and choral arrangement is massive.).......
Down went the gunner, a bullet was his fate
Down went the gunner, and then the gunner’s mate
Up jumped the sky pilot, gave the boys a look
And manned the gun himself as he laid aside the Book, shouting
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition
And we’ll all stay free
Praise the Lord and swing into position
Can’t afford to sit around a-wishin’
Praise the Lord, we’re all between perdition
And the deep blue sea
Yes the sky pilot said it
Ya gotta give him credit
For a son of a gun of a gunner was he, shouting
Praise the Lord, we’re on a mighty mission
All aboard, we’re not a-goin’ fishin’
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition
And we’ll all stay free
Down came the bombers, a-diving from the sky
Down came the bombers, but faith could never die
There stood the sky pilot, there among his men
The light was in his eye, as he shouted once again
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition
And we’ll all stay free
Praise the Lord and swing into position
>>Can’t afford to be a politician<<
Praise the Lord, we’re all between perdition
And the deep blue sea
Yes the sky pilot said it
Ya gotta give him credit
For a son of a gun of a gunner was he, shouting
Praise the Lord, we’re on a mighty mission
All aboard, we’re not a-goin’ fishin’
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition
And we’ll all stay free
SO, If you haven't overdosed on this by now, here's the Wiki backstory:
Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition - Wikipedia
ZedRM
Posts: 3,379 +2,324
While this proposed law goes too far, something does need to be done to limit access of materials that have been proven harmful to the proper development of young people.
Your statement reads like a bad comedy. The purpose of these movements in proper social development is to refine that which helps healthy progress of our civilization. It has nothing to do religion or controlling what adult liberties & freedoms are.
And this is even more bad comedy.OK, FWIW, Monty Python didn't say that, at least not originally. They borrowed it from a WW II incident, and a song composed from it (The orchestral and choral arrangement is massive.).......
Here's one version (?) of the lyrics:
Down went the gunner, a bullet was his fate
Down went the gunner, and then the gunner’s mate
Up jumped the sky pilot, gave the boys a look
And manned the gun himself as he laid aside the Book, shouting
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition
And we’ll all stay free
Praise the Lord and swing into position
Can’t afford to sit around a-wishin’
Praise the Lord, we’re all between perdition
And the deep blue sea
Yes the sky pilot said it
Ya gotta give him credit
For a son of a gun of a gunner was he, shouting
Praise the Lord, we’re on a mighty mission
All aboard, we’re not a-goin’ fishin’
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition
And we’ll all stay free
Down came the bombers, a-diving from the sky
Down came the bombers, but faith could never die
There stood the sky pilot, there among his men
The light was in his eye, as he shouted once again
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition
And we’ll all stay free
Praise the Lord and swing into position
>>Can’t afford to be a politician<<
Praise the Lord, we’re all between perdition
And the deep blue sea
Yes the sky pilot said it
Ya gotta give him credit
For a son of a gun of a gunner was he, shouting
Praise the Lord, we’re on a mighty mission
All aboard, we’re not a-goin’ fishin’
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition
And we’ll all stay free
SO, If you haven't overdosed on this by now, here's the Wiki backstory:
Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
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dualkelly
Posts: 380 +582
The government doesn't really need to do anything about it. You as the parent already have the tools at your hand to limit access to those materials. There are so so so many of them. Perhaps the government needs to do a better job at educating people and promoting some of those tools that you as a parent can implement to access stuff at home. If you believe the goverment has a need to prevent harm then why the heck do we not have access to free on point healthcare. Yes I know its not free but there is more harm done to kids who cant access healthcare and also get food in schools as in feed the hungry than porn.
captaincranky
Posts: 20,445 +9,398
You're forgetting that the US is a "Christian capitalist country".
Accordingly, our motto is, "praise the lord, and sell more ammunition".
Win7user
Posts: 641 +455
These, so-called moral police sponsoring this, are likely watching porn and even child porn every single day!
captaincranky
Posts: 20,445 +9,398
And yet it's been sung, played, recognized, and revered, more than anything you're ever done, or will do.
The funny part is, the "sky pilot" in the song, is a pseudonym for a Christian minister participating in the battle.
BTW, thanks for clearing up how, "ti", is pronounced "Tee Eye". I never would have guessed.
OortCloud
Posts: 2,301 +3,315
It's right-wing puritanical faux Christian nonsense that unfortunately the diseased and dysfunctional society the US has become is riddled with. Guns are fine but pornography that's a big no no - what mad society could end up in this kind of position? There have been 308 mass shootings in the US already this year but that's fine. Rather than banning guns ,let ban pornography and abortion - now illegal in 12 states. Oh and lets let ICE sweep people off the streets and from their workplaces with little or no recourse to the law. If you can't see what a grim and oppressive place your once wonderful country is becoming I feel sorry for you.
John Staerck
Posts: 35 +7
"No sex, please. We're British" was a famous farce that despite being panned by critics ran in London's West End 1971-1987
"An assistant bank manager, Peter Hunter, lives in a flat above his bank with his new bride Frances. When Frances innocently sends off a mail order for some Scandinavian glassware, what comes back is Scandinavian pornography. The two, along with the bank's frantic chief cashier Brian Runnicles, must decide what to do with the veritable floods of pornography, photographs, books, films and eventually girls that threaten to engulf this happy couple. The matter is considerably complicated by the presence of Eleanor (Peter's mother), Mr. Bromhead (his boss), Mr. Needham (a visiting bank inspector) and Vernon Paul (a police superintendent). "
First, I'm by no means a prude. But this comes on the heels of a show I watched the other day on AppleTV where a group of teenagers were in a gaming guild calling themselves "dabqueef" and they would do a dab and then thrust their hips forward for the queef. One of them said he was leaving for a new guild called "clithunters". But a young kid, like 11 or so, kept talking about "fingerblasting" and doing a hand motion that looked like it. There was a lot of other stuff, but I found all this disturbing that these kids were talking about sexual concepts that were frankly surprising that they would even know about at that age and also because a lot of adults were involved in the making of this and no one said "no". My girlfriend and I were talking about this show and she works at a middle school, and said that it's nonstop now, the kids' conversations sound like every single act of out the most depraved porn you could imagine, talking about OF too. She's a raging liberal but even she's under the impression now that it's just too much, these kids are being exposed to concepts that they really shouldn't be and that it should be blocked. I agree. Additionally, dress code has completely left the schools out here and she says these middle school girls are wearing things that would make me blush, thin bra-less sleeveless shirts, shorts that the bottom half of their butt is actually hanging out, no underwear... and since there is no policy, they can't be reprimanded. As a male kid that age once, I would've loved it... but I don't think I'd have been able to focus on the schoolwork at all with all this going on-- and I'm surprised that the parents allow it, but she says these parents are the generation who grew up with mobile devices and porn at their fingertips.
The VPN part, I'm wondering how people will work from home though-- maybe it's something where a business needs to register to have a VPN for approved work purposes?
As someone else said, probably won't get passed, but never underestimate the power of this current administration. In this case, re: the porn, I say good riddance.
The VPN part, I'm wondering how people will work from home though-- maybe it's something where a business needs to register to have a VPN for approved work purposes?
As someone else said, probably won't get passed, but never underestimate the power of this current administration. In this case, re: the porn, I say good riddance.
While I don't support the industry at all and would like nothing more than to see it crumble, all bans do is create a black market. Prohibition anyone?
To prevent access at my house I installed a router with Zenarmor and I force Cloudflare Family DNS even if someone tries to use another DNS server. I use category filters etc. I have timers set as to when certain devices can access the internet, default devices have the strictest filtering.
This doesn't prevent mobile phones with data plans. For those I have set parental controls, there is no reason for my 12-year-old to have the internet in her pocket. Her phone has no internet access and no picture texting.
Obviously, there are ways around these safeguards, but nothing my 12-year-old is aware of. We'll keep monitoring the situation.
To prevent access at my house I installed a router with Zenarmor and I force Cloudflare Family DNS even if someone tries to use another DNS server. I use category filters etc. I have timers set as to when certain devices can access the internet, default devices have the strictest filtering.
This doesn't prevent mobile phones with data plans. For those I have set parental controls, there is no reason for my 12-year-old to have the internet in her pocket. Her phone has no internet access and no picture texting.
Obviously, there are ways around these safeguards, but nothing my 12-year-old is aware of. We'll keep monitoring the situation.
dualkelly
Posts: 380 +582
If I had a kid I would use something like Bark or Qustodio on their phones and tablets.
captaincranky
Posts: 20,445 +9,398
Well, it's like kidz say after a prank, "Ha, Ha, made you look".
BTW, did you hear about the prom chaperone who was lifting girl's skirts to make sure they weren't wearing "thong" panties? I know he lost his job, and was likely locked up.
As for me, I'm a product of the 60's & 70's. Those were the "good old days". Bras were practically illegal and promiscuity was en vogue. Imagine, all without cellphones or internet porn. Oops, almost forgot, the hipster jeans and mini skirts.
Yeah, my wife works for Aetna, and they require a VPN to tunnel into their intranet to ensure there are no leaks that violate HIPAA. I'm sure Aetna is not the only company in the state that HAS TO USE a VPN. This ban won't fly.Lol, banning vpn is gonna work fine, a **** ton of companies use those
And as others have pointed out, it's not the state's responsibility to monitor and protect my kids from adult content. That is my job, and I've been doing a damn good job at it for over 18 years. Ultimately, the kids whose parents don't monitor them still don't fall under the state's custody. No harm is coming to others from that 16-year-old sneak watching porn. If he doesn't have the internet, he's gonna find a magazine or DVD. If it's not a Playboy under his dad's sock drawer, then it's his best friend's dad's XXX in the case for "A Week with our Nation's Poplar Trees" (yes, that is a very real and very boring documentary). There is literally no valid reason for this much nanny-state over-regulation of porn.
PierreJG
Posts: 117 +37
Porn I can understand in some sense although it still isn't illegal. I built an adult website a few weeks ago but it has no revealing content, We have perma admins monitoring things etc. Not all porn is illegal but to ban vpns... do they even know what a vpn is? Yes, it can be used for the wrong reasons but I am pretty sure they use vpns on their own systems. So they want to ban something that protects your privacy. I swear some people just sit in an office thinking out rules that just make no sense. Use your time to improve the lives of people. Like I say, I am not the smartest biscuit in the pack but compared to some people I am a genius....
urbanman2004
Posts: 176 +56
I swear these modern day politicians in America have way too much time on their hands fighting culture wars that nobody asked for rather than doing their jobs and actually passing laws that would be in the best interest of their constituents, smh...
captaincranky
Posts: 20,445 +9,398
That's because they're simply not interested, or perhaps blatantly opposed to doing anything to help or benefit their constituents. Their main motivation for even going to "work", is attempting to project and consolidate their personal power, erstwhile feigning righteousness, and currying favor with their "new king", by kissing his, "Big Bountiful Butt".
Plus, they don't really have to do anything. Their dipsh!t constituents will vote them back into office anyway, either by force of habit, or in simply not knowing any better.
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Haven't you learned anything yet? Ever since the un-flushable Orange Turd floated to the top of the toilet that is the Republican party people started to realize it's actually opposite day every day in America.
When Republicans claim the other side is trying to steal an election in fact they're the ones trying to do it. They claim to be for freedom of speech, but only as long as you agree with them. If you point out their lies and deceptions or ridicule them for it you get canceled. Just ask Stephen Colbert or Jimmy Kimmel. A party who claims to be against "cancel culture" sure seems to be canceling a lot of people and banning a lot of books.
They claim to be against regulation, yet they regulate women's bodies. They claim to be against taxes, yet they put in place the biggest corporate tax in over a hundred years. Yes, tariffs are actually a tax on corporations that will eventually get passed down to consumers. No, China and other countries do not pay a dime in tariffs. Anyway, the list goes on and on.
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