Microsoft is making Windows 10 an automatic update next year

[Evernessince]

I really wish amd was more relevant compared to intel they just have not been leap-frogging each other in the past 5 years when it comes to new tech especially with processors. Used to, intel would make something good, then amd would make something comparable.

I think your own post describes the situation for AMD perfectly. "comparable" has been the only thing AMD could do. The only time AMD did have a size comparable to Intel, it produced a better product (original Athlon). Even that didn't matter, Intel went around threatening OEMs that they would stop business with them if they didn't drop AMD products.

If you ask me, Intel isn't entirely guilty, as there are plenty of pseudo monopolies throughout the US. Take the telecom industry, for example. It appears to me that if the US government does actually act on a monopoly, it's both far too late and far too little. Intel didn't even receive what I'd call a slap on the hand for what they did. The amount they paid out to AMD was next to nothing compared to the damage done.

 

[Mr Mister]

Bill Gates can turn **** into water but he had to leave MS to make it happen. lol

Lol, that literally happened, I saw him drink the water on tv in an interview.

 

[captaincranky]

This may be slightly off topic, but I assure you it's relevant to this discussion.

I purchased Adobe Photoshop Elements 13 on DVD, As most of you likely know, Adobe is leading the charge to all subscription software.

Lo and behold, something very rare happened last night. Abode notified me that an update was available for PSE 13! (This almost never happens).

So, I opted to accept the update. It downloaded and installed.


HOWEVER, every time I tried to launch the program afterwards, I received the exact same message about, "an update is available". The notice CAN'T be dismissed! And for all intents and purposes, the program is dead!

I tried to., "msconfig" adobeupdate.exe out of the equation, but no luck, the "update available" message persisted, no matter how many more times I "downloaded and installed it"!

Finally, I went into Edit > Preferences to view how updates were being handled. They were set to "notify me of availability". It wasn't until I set the update paradigm to, "allow Adobe to download and install updates", that I was able to rid of the notification, and use the program!

If this is any indication, Adobe has chosen to remove the user's free will as to the update procedure. I'm speculating if Adobe gets away with this, it forms a template for M$ to follow in the future.

You can click away the notification by choosing, "postpone". But, why on earth should you have to "postpone" an update which has already been installed? Truly annoying that is..

 

[TVPMike]

Well, you must be new at this, and why on earth would I have problems running running XP in 2015. The only reason I can think of off the top of my head, is because M$ told me I was going to have problems, because they wanted to sell me a newer OS.

So, if you only have one computer, and it's the god you pray to, then I suppose you would believe XP today would be a problem.

The real problem is, "one OS across all platforms", is something I see as a big problem for consumers, and the best thing that could possibly happen for M$ itself. Here's why. If they ram 10 down everyone's throat, then they only need to issue patches for ONE OS, instead of the half dozen which need attention now. That seems like it would cut way down on labor costs.

And now a cautionary, "once upon a time story". Way back when dinosaurs still roamed the earth, a retail copy of XP Pro, was worth close to $300.00.

So now, it seems like M$ wants to give a more capable product away for nothing. Beware of Greeks bearing gifts. Once they've stripped you of all your 7 & 8 bought and paid for licenses, there's absolutely nothing in the world to stop them from migrating to a subscription based distribution

Use your f***ing head, Bill Gates became the richest man in the world SELLING Windows. So now, you think Natella is going to give this s*** away forever?.

I never said that Microsoft trying to get everyone one Windows 10 was a good idea or agreed with anything Microsoft has or plans to do. All I said that being on XP in 2015 is a joke. New hardware doesn't come with XP drivers, the Operating System has huge security holes that Microsoft will no longer fix and if I remember correctly, no version of XP can even support more than 2 physical cores.

Regardless of how I feel about XP, to each their own. My point was that you can turn off automatic updates on Windows 7, Vista and possibly XP (which was later confirmed by other replies that yes, you can also turn it off on XP).

 

[captaincranky]

I never said that Microsoft trying to get everyone one Windows 10 was a good idea or agreed with anything Microsoft has or plans to do. All I said that being on XP in 2015 is a joke. New hardware doesn't come with XP drivers, the Operating System has huge security holes that Microsoft will no longer fix and if I remember correctly, no version of XP can even support more than 2 physical cores.

Well, assuming a legacy PC, which doesn't even have drivers available for Vista, anything other than XP is not an option. If you're assuming that basic cruising of the web requires more than a single core, you're well mistaken. XP has the "huge security holes" which M$ intentionally put there. The most salient of these, is by virtue of M$E, (anti-virus) being discontinued. So, Redmond shot its own OS in the foot, to aid in getting rid of it. Which by extension allowed them to make a big hysteria inducing announcement, "support for XP has ended, and imply, "that means security is ended as well". If you're one of those who relied on M$ as your sole source of security, that's been foolish for well, forever. XP can still be secured, via after market security software.

Personally, I have much better results with an ancient eMachines P-4, then I do with Win 7 in a much later dual core Pentium (E-6300, 2.8 Ghz). Both machines are running the same version of Firefox.

Full disclosure, I don't stream or game online. By the same token, I don't have the extreme .hardware needs as someone who does. But, online gaming is a choice, not a necessity.

Regardless of how I feel about XP, to each their own. My point was that you can turn off automatic updates on Windows 7, Vista and possibly XP (which was later confirmed by other replies that yes, you can also turn it off on XP).

The fact you needed to be informed automatic updates can be turned off in XP, (something I've been doing for a decade), tells me you're just regurgitating current propaganda, which is pro Win 10, and against XP. As for Win 7, it's mostly just Vista, wearing "the emperor's new clothes". The weakest thing about XP, wasn't the OS, it was early iterations of IE, and Active X. Most of those problems went away when Firefox was released.

 

[TVPMike]

The fact you needed to be informed automatic updates can be turned off in XP, (something I've been doing for a decade), tells me you're just regurgitating current propaganda, which is pro Win 10, and against XP. As for Win 7, it's mostly just Vista, wearing "the emperor's new clothes". The weakest thing about XP, wasn't the OS, it was early iterations of IE, and Active X. Most of those problems went away when Firefox was released.

I'm currently content with Windows 7 and have no intentions of moving up to Windows 10 any time soon, if ever. Windows XP may work for you, but you even just admitted to how limited it is. Although that level of limitation may be good for YOU, it's not good for most people. I'm not saying that they should be on Windows 10, but they definitely need to not be on XP anymore.

Don't make assumptions that are not backed up by substantial facts, it's very unbecoming.

I also just wanted to note that XP was great back in it's day; and other than Windows 7 it was my favorite OS. However, it's passed it's time for most people.

 

[captaincranky]

I'm currently content with Windows 7 and have no intentions of moving up to Windows 10 any time soon, if ever. Windows XP may work for you, but you even just admitted to how limited it is. Although that level of limitation may be good for YOU, it's not good for most people. I'm not saying that they should be on Windows 10, but they definitely need to not be on XP anymore.

Unfortunately, "because" isn't a reason. Neither is, "because M$ said so".

IDon't make assumptions that are not backed up by substantial facts, it's very unbecoming.

I also just wanted to note that XP was great back in it's day; and other than Windows 7 it was my favorite OS. However, it's passed it's time for most people.

Well, (at least to my way of thinking), speaking for, "most people", is a fairly broad assumption in it's own right. So, as the saying goes, "physician heal thyself".

Moving on, wanting to be the "first kid on the block" to have something, doesn't constitute a "need", in any way shape or form.

Confusing "want", with "need", has been a delusion perpetrated upon itself by the human "race", since we first began to write s*** down. The reason you justify that new Cadillac, is not because you want it, our "superior intellect" causes it to metamorphose into an overwhelming need.

As near as I can tell, the one big improvement moving from XP to its successors, is the installation of native SATA drivers. (Or AHCI, if you prefer).

As for this generations "needs", let's take the cell phone as an extreme example. People need cell phones so they'll have something to do while driving their cars. They also "need" cell phones, so they can call their "better halves" from the store so they can be told what to buy. I guess a pencil and piece of paper taken with you is too stone age for today's hipsters.

Then too, with a cell phone, you can join a website such as this one, and whimper ad infinitum, about the NSA, listening to your calls. You couldn't do that with an archaic landline, that's for sure.

But, but, but, "the cell phone saves time". For What? So you can get back to streaming video sooner? (The pastime formerly known as, "doing nothing").

Now that I think of it, as archaic and provincial as my views may seem, nor are they the views of "most people", I thank my lucky stars I have the wisdom, (and freedom from Alzheimer's), to hold on to them.

 

[Forebode]

And for those small business that don't use enterprise licensing and are bound to windows 7/admin due to compatibility.. what about them? screwed?

I'd like them to have an update for sub win10 systems that allows the user, a the next logon, the option to say no to all win10 upgrade updates.

 

[mcgee10]

Forced update to windows 10 how nice. My laptop was upgraded to windows 10 and it crashes often. My desktop has had many registry tweaks and will never run windows 10. I paid for windows 7 I own my copy I do not want windows 10. Now we all have a new game keeping windows 10 out.