Microsoft is testing new ads in Windows 11

Theinsanegamer

Posts: 3,956   +6,998
No you didn't. Stop lying. No one uses Linux except those who want to prove how different they are than everyone else. It's like Mac users, they have to go around telling everyone how much better it is what they are using and everyone should switch. I hate MS, but Windows is here to stay. No one is moving to Linux or Mac. Period.
>nobody is switching to linux or MAC
>MacOS now makes up 15% of all internet users
>windows has shrunk from 95% to 74% in the same timeframe
>Chrome OS is now 2.5%
>linux goes from 0.6% to 8%.

LMFAO
 
In the real world people don't care about Linux, people care about MS Office, gaming etc.. There's not a single Linux distro that can be used by the average Joe without requiring some fiddling with the terminal trying to solve various issues with the soundcards, videocards etc. and while today linux is in a much better place than it was 10 years ago there still not ONE distro that you can rely on without being a tech savvy person. Not even Ubuntu. I have a feeling that not even in 10 years from now we won't have a single distro good for gaming and everything that the average Joe needs or wants.

I disagree with this. My grandmother has a Linux PC using Manjaro Cinnamon. For her use case, it's perfect and I've not touched the terminal in it yet.

Now if you want to get into some Wine items for special programs then yeah terminal is going to be needed, but no driver or other issues. Of course I made sure it was an all AMD system so there is built in drives/etc. but I still go by Manjaro is close to terminal less as you can get. The Arch repository has so many things you can use with no tinkering. Just my two cents.
 
I still haven't stopped laughing ..... you obvious aren't well educated in Linux or it's products! Another slave to MicroSludge is born!

Your words are harsh because you don't know me but I guess throwing harsh words at people over the internet is fine. Your parents should've educated you better.

The reality is Windows is more compatible with the needs of the average Joe on a daily basis and there is not a single Linux distro that can offer the same thing for everyone. You will always run into some sort of glitch/issue/whatever..

You want to play the latest games? Use Windows.
You want to use the most popular photo editing software? Use Windows.
You want to use the latest hardware (and not 6 months down the road) that is actually supported by the manufacturer? Use Windows.

So on and so forth... you get the idea. Ofc, there are alternatives in the Linux world and some are even better from certain perspectives.

I do appreciate a couple of Linux communities out there that try to bring the OS to the people, communities like Pop!_OS, Ubuntu, Elementary OS, Mint, Zorin OS among others but the fact is Linux is not there yet whether you like it or not, it doesn't matter.
 
Of course I made sure it was an all AMD system so there is built in drives/etc.

^this.
You always "need to make sure" to run certain hardware for the OS to not mess around with the user. Is this normal? Is this what the average Joe wants or needs in their life? I don't think so. I am not judging your choices or saying they are bad.

 

Avro Arrow

Posts: 3,355   +4,362
Everything I keep hearing about Windows 11 tells me that I was right to refuse every time that Microsoft tried to get me to abandon Windows 10.

No thanks Microsoft, I'll be just fine without you having control of my network traffic.
 

Fastturtle

Posts: 105   +52
I hate to say it about Linux but between RedHat and MS, SystemD is a viable replacement for the Windows Registry. Sorry folks but Linux has jumped the shark. If I switch to a FOSS solution, it will be FreeBSD due to stability and such.
 

Gezzer

Posts: 317   +153
That is simply not true about Linux the last few of years. Even gaming is much better/easier now days. Installing and configuring is on par with Windows now.

Not saying to switch but those statements are either obtuse or just plain ignorant of todays top Linux distros. And I have to setup and de-crapify Windows for a living among other network administration.

I've attempted to use a distro every now and then, the last time was with Mint. Everything was fine until I tried to use a touch screen to log in. No go, touch just wasn't useable until the OS was at the desktop. Not a big deal, just Google a solution just like with Windows. And that's where things came to a screeching halt. Windows solutions are plenty, and eventually one even works. Distro solutions are few and far between and when you do find them almost always involve using bash. It's the 21st century and people think it's fine to still have to use a command line? Maybe only for tech heads showing off, the rest of us just want an easy to use UI. And until a distro, any distro figures that out, linux will be playing on the sidelines IMHO.
 

fps4ever

Posts: 1,105   +1,799
I've attempted to use a distro every now and then, the last time was with Mint. Everything was fine until I tried to use a touch screen to log in. No go, touch just wasn't useable until the OS was at the desktop. Not a big deal, just Google a solution just like with Windows. And that's where things came to a screeching halt. Windows solutions are plenty, and eventually one even works. Distro solutions are few and far between and when you do find them almost always involve using bash. It's the 21st century and people think it's fine to still have to use a command line? Maybe only for tech heads showing off, the rest of us just want an easy to use UI. And until a distro, any distro figures that out, linux will be playing on the sidelines IMHO.

I'm testing the latest Mint (my favorite distro) and do not have any touch screen issues. And your excuse is that Windows has issues but there are easier google answers? Guess what, when I troubleshoot Windows there are plenty of times I have to use power shell or use a registry hack. If you are a non techie there is no reason to have to ever use the command line if things just work, just like Windows.
 

Uncle Al

Posts: 9,363   +8,581
No you didn't. Stop lying. No one uses Linux except those who want to prove how different they are than everyone else. It's like Mac users, they have to go around telling everyone how much better it is what they are using and everyone should switch. I hate MS, but Windows is here to stay. No one is moving to Linux or Mac. Period.

Better you pay attention to the community guidelines and stop attacking those you disagree with.
 

Athlonite

Posts: 412   +171
Another Linux fanboy. In practice, I installed Ubuntu like a double boot, and guess what: No Adobe (really?, no Photoshop, no Dreamweaver, no Premiere, etc.), none of my Windows games are available and the interface is so ugly in comparison to Windows 11 that I had to quit. And thank God my graphics card was Radeon because when I had a Geforce in the past, the driver support sucked big time! Yes, I dislike Windows 11 too and its MS malware, but in comparison to Linux Ubuntu is much more advanced and user-friendly. For now, Linux is only for some guys not using Adobe, not gaming, with some knowledge about terminal, etc., that is 0.1% of humankind.
I am not a Linux basher, but reality is reality anno 2022.
You should have tried Linux Mint instead it's way better than pukebunto and it uses flat packs for programs
 

lazer

Posts: 458   +140
Gawd, this is the very reason I will NOT upgrade to win 11, who wants to deal with ads on your operating system?
gatta be nuts to use it.
 

Gezzer

Posts: 317   +153
I'm testing the latest Mint (my favorite distro) and do not have any touch screen issues. And your excuse is that Windows has issues but there are easier google answers? Guess what, when I troubleshoot Windows there are plenty of times I have to use power shell or use a registry hack. If you are a non techie there is no reason to have to ever use the command line if things just work, just like Windows.
Well I might give Mint another shot then. But as for my other issues, you really didn't address them. The fact that Windows, due to its much larger user base, almost always has an easy to find and use solution for any problem, where as Linux distros often don't and it's a wait till the next release where it'll hopefully be fixed solution. Plus with Linux solutions when you do find one bash seems to be the go to. Not so with Windows, where virtually every OS application has an easy to understand and use GUI front end.

Remember what we're discussing isn't the superiority of either OS, but why Windows is much more user friendly, and Linux isn't going to unseat them any time soon for that reason. It's obvious you love Linux, and that's fine, your choice. But Linux distros will always be a niche' product due to a number of reasons and your evangelizing simply won't change that I'm afraid. I use quite a lot of OSS and would love to use a distro for my daily driver. But at this point I simply haven't found one that doesn't require a lot of in depth tweaking and troubleshooting.
 

fps4ever

Posts: 1,105   +1,799
Well I might give Mint another shot then. But as for my other issues, you really didn't address them. The fact that Windows, due to its much larger user base, almost always has an easy to find and use solution for any problem, where as Linux distros often don't and it's a wait till the next release where it'll hopefully be fixed solution. Plus with Linux solutions when you do find one bash seems to be the go to. Not so with Windows, where virtually every OS application has an easy to understand and use GUI front end.

Remember what we're discussing isn't the superiority of either OS, but why Windows is much more user friendly, and Linux isn't going to unseat them any time soon for that reason. It's obvious you love Linux, and that's fine, your choice. But Linux distros will always be a niche' product due to a number of reasons and your evangelizing simply won't change that I'm afraid. I use quite a lot of OSS and would love to use a distro for my daily driver. But at this point I simply haven't found one that doesn't require a lot of in depth tweaking and troubleshooting.

You can search for any issue with Linux and find an answer most times without waiting for the next release. Same as Windows. Google is your friend for both operating systems. Sorry but your Windows is just easier doesn't fly now days. If you like Windows by all means stick with it.