Microsoft Security Essentials bombs tests, loses AV-Test certificate

By Rick ยท 77 replies
Nov 29, 2012
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  1. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 13,005   +2,532

    How exactly would you even go about creating a mess like that, let alone having it happen, "accidentally"?
  2. Jesse

    Jesse TS Evangelist Posts: 358   +42

    We liked it back when it did work, and are just now finding out that it doesn't cut it anymore. That's why this is disappointing, but you knew that ;)
  3. misor

    misor TS Evangelist Posts: 1,283   +242

    I used to love avg 2013 antivirus free edition but lately virus definition updates always fail so I uninstalled and switched to avast antivirus free edition.
  4. jcarr11

    jcarr11 TS Rookie

    I use malware bytes pro and MSE and I never have a problem and they do not hog resources. Malware is only 25 a year very worth it
  5. PinothyJ

    PinothyJ TS Guru Posts: 460   +22

    Your protection is bad and you should feel bad...
  6. killeriii

    killeriii TS Enthusiast Posts: 213   +14

    Lol, and here I haven't used virus protection for about 3 years. :eek:
    I can't believe how many people here use it. And multiple types at once too!
    I'm just careful I guess. :p
  7. Trillionsin

    Trillionsin TS Evangelist Posts: 1,596   +257

    I've become accustom to installing MSSE and Malwarebyte's Antimalware. I will do a once a month scan with it, and I actually have a paid version of it too, but dont like to keep it running. I leave MSSE running on the other hand during all times as a light layer of protection. Sometimes I'll download Spybot Anti Spyware, but I find certain aspects of its protection annoying.
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  8. spin26

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  9. dennis777

    dennis777 TS Enthusiast Posts: 285   +33

    Maybe they did not update the virus definition of MSE before performing the test :p
  10. Per Hansson

    Per Hansson TS Server Guru Posts: 1,959   +217

    I'm after a completely nag-free solution.
    You would be afraid of how many systems I find, where either the paid license expired and the users does nothing (even tho she is prompted on every system bootup to do something about it!)
    That's why I used Symantec Corporate Antivirus at work, it is nag-free and we have a license, so it never expires.
    But it is such a bad resource hog that I began switching systems over to MSE...

    Thank you, you are indeed correct, I tried to word my post very carefully :)
    Infact I think this is the best Antivirus, it is what I use for my own computers at home :D
  11. I have used most if the free antivirus programs. Avira is the best one I have used. It found stuff the others didn't. I used to have Norton 360. It wasn't as good as Avira free edition.
  12. NTAPRO

    NTAPRO TS Evangelist Posts: 809   +102

    Aw. >_> Don't really feel like calling a hundred people to tell them to uninstall it xD
  13. Per Hansson

    Per Hansson TS Server Guru Posts: 1,959   +217

    I don't have a problem with it.
    But tell that to the users that do this instead, it is beyond me.
    They come to me with a computer having viruses, 50% of the time the Antivirus has expired and they did nothing to fix it
    The other 50% the Antivirus happens to be an old version of Norton Antivirus.
    That's why I prefer a 100% nag-free solution like MSE...
  14. Stop yamning everyone, there is no best AV or silver bullet against virus/malware.. if you want AV with better protection, subscribe one.. then, subscribe MBAM pro for another extra security
  15. fyrfaktry

    fyrfaktry TS Member Posts: 18

    That's wierd. Some of the worst infected computers I have worked on had Kaspersky on them...
  16. valentyn0

    valentyn0 TS Rookie Posts: 16

    Bullshit review, have MSE since w7 came out, no problems at all (combined with Malwarebytes software is unbeatable) !!
  17. wiyosaya

    wiyosaya TS Evangelist Posts: 1,935   +761

    IMHO, with each release of some products, M$ has dumbed them down, made them worse, and then tells their customers that the programs are now improved.

    That happened years ago with the help in Visual Studio. It used to produce exceptionally relevant results when searching for something. However, they turned that search into an "OR" search that produced volumes of irrelevant results, and somehow, the development world accepted this as "better."

    Personally, I hope that either 1, the testing of MSE in this instance was flawed, or 2, M$ will devote the attention to MSE that it deserves.

    Being somewhat cynical, though, MSE is a "free" product that other companies sell and, apparently, make a profit from. Without a proven profit path for MSE, I would expect that the business justification for maintaining it properly is almost non-existent.
  18. Jesse

    Jesse TS Evangelist Posts: 358   +42

    LOL valentyn0
    Good job with the reading words. The article states that this is a new development, and that is why there is so much discussion in this thread.
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  19. CeCeSam

    CeCeSam TS Rookie

    Thank you! You are right. I was unaware the others "Nag" since I have never used them. I have MSE on 2 older household PC's & 1 Laptop (upon advice from repair person AFTER earlier version of Norton failed to prevent/resolve something!), and a newer version of Norton (I presume) on newest Laptop. My concern presently is whether to renew Norton or not, with past experiences? You have ALL been SO HELPFUL!
  20. penn919

    penn919 TS Addict Posts: 220   +71

    How would you know you aren't infected if you don't use any anti-virus?
  21. ReederOnTheRun

    ReederOnTheRun TS Booster Posts: 304   +62

    Well that's disappointing. MSE was the best out there if you wanted a good antivirus that wouldn't hassle you all the time.
  22. dotVezz

    dotVezz TS Booster Posts: 112

    I'm confused. What are you trying to say?
  23. Dude, if you aren't an *****- you do not need antivirus. period. One of the modern ages biggest scams.
  24. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 3,146   +911

    Meh, I've put MSE on a few computers, all seem to be ok so far. personally, I don't use anti-virus on my PC, whats the point of I'm not going to be doing anything stupid? I install Malwarebytes every few months, let it scan when I'm not using it, in the last 3 years now I've had it scan back with a nice 0 found infections.

    Back to MSE though, when ever I've used it I've actually really liked it, easy to understand and quick to scan and install, it didn't kill resources on the pc either which was nice, Sophos seems to slow file access times dramatically, AVG uses too much CPU and Norton was the worst of both worlds, Kaspersky as well seems to slow down file access times quite a lot (found though it depends on the type of files).

    Its a shame MSE has gone this way, if I ever needed to install an Anti-Virus program this is (and for myself would be) the "go to" program.
  25. MSSE is crap. It can't even defend itself from attacks nevertheless your computer. I can't tell you how many times a virus or malware has taken over MSSE, disabling it, and leaving it useless. Isn't that funny? An anti-virus program that can't defend itself?
  26. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar Elite Techno Geek Posts: 6,515   +974

    I Am gonna continue to use it and be cautious and not download things I do not need and think are risky. I hear avast has issues with some games so I am not gonna try it.

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