Microsoft Security Essentials bombs tests, loses AV-Test certificate

By Rick · 77 replies
Nov 29, 2012
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  1. Microsoft Security Essentials was the only entry to fail AV-Test's certification between September and October -- an embarrasing slip for the once well-regarded virus protection solution. MSSE received a total of 10.5 out of 18 possible points, most notably falling short...

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  2. Uh-oh, bad news for MSE users :D
  3. Wow... You'd think with Windows 8 out the door already and MS NOT offering Service Packs or new DirectX for Windows 7, that they'd have plenty of time to work on keeping MS Security Essentials performing well.
    Guess not...
  4. TomSEA

    TomSEA TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,828   +1,023

    Damn MS is too busy trying to shove Windows 8 down everyone's throat rather than properly maintain one of the quality products they have.
  5. treeski

    treeski TS Evangelist Posts: 999   +241

    Hopefully they step it up again asap. I love how light weight MSSE is.
  6. Jesse

    Jesse TS Evangelist Posts: 358   +42

    This is really disappointing. I've been recommending MSE for a while now. Hope they can clean up their act.
    hammer2085, gamoniac, CeCeSam and 2 others like this.
  7. Per Hansson

    Per Hansson TS Server Guru Posts: 1,962   +222

    Are there even any other "nag-free, no-cost anti-virus solutions" other than MSE?
    I've been installing it on several work computers, it's a tremendous improvement over Symantec Corporate Antivirus!

    The only downside I have seen is when you open a folder with many EXE files, like my "Appz" or "Drivers" folder; then it hogs the CPU down real hard and the computer does slow down in this scenario allot... :(
    (And it is quite annoying because when downloading some program off the Internet I browse to that folder with my browser which slows it down to a screeching halt aswell...)
  8. lawfer

    lawfer TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,270   +91

    It's weird too because the latest Norton used to rank top, but now Bit Defender is, who, from past experiences, performed cleaning duties well, but always was a resource hog.

    Antiviruses are very interesting software, their performance goes up or down as new malware is found; it's up to each company to keep each antivirus on their toes. Seems MS has been lazy due to Windows 8, which is unfortunate for MSE users.
  9. I've been using MSE for some time now and have found it to be quite good though this does make me wonder. I'll have to do some more research.
    CeCeSam likes this.
  10. psycros

    psycros TS Evangelist Posts: 2,061   +1,521

    They've been concentrating on ruining Windows for the past four years. Hardly any time left for creating a viable a/v solution. MSIE was <b>always</b> the protection of last resort, anyway.
  11. killeriii

    killeriii TS Enthusiast Posts: 213   +14

    Agreed, MS has a habit of this imo.
  12. CeCeSam

    CeCeSam TS Rookie

    Second paragraph of the above article names 3 other FREE alternatives. (THANKS!) Good Luck. I will be checking these out myself! If you find one you like more than others, I'd love to hear back! I'm not as experienced as you, but I'm a good student! :)
  13. Guardian31756

    Guardian31756 TS Rookie Posts: 17

    We, should all be ashamed of ourselves for this, each and everyone of us !

    Our constant nagging freedom of choice has come back to bite ourselves in our arse, Am laughing so hard, that it hurts !

    You see, as an End-User, am told, nah scratch that, ADVISED, to protect my connection against those whom are willing to seek and destroy me and I go out and see what's everyone choice AVG and I find out, Everyone has a recommendation as to what's the best ! Frankly, NOT 1 of the AVG's are perfect because if it were, their wouldn't be so many choices, now would there ?

    HAT's off to those who TRUSTED the best ! I wouldn't seek anyone's advise because IMHO, It's NOT your arse on the line, it's MINE !
  14. distantreality

    distantreality TS Enthusiast Posts: 58   +7

    You can take their word....I sure won't
  15. vis12345

    vis12345 TS Booster Posts: 72

    I think Microsoft is planning to make Windows 7 people with more problems. And also want people to changed to new OS and use Defender. If you see the number of definition updates released per day for Defender is more than MSE.
  16. vis12345

    vis12345 TS Booster Posts: 72

    There is some correction to the main post. Defender is different than MSE. The regular updates per day for Defender is more than MSE. If you have both Win 7 and Win 8, check it yourself.
  17. Per Hansson

    Per Hansson TS Server Guru Posts: 1,962   +222

    Ive used them all (admittedly quite a while ago)
    But they all seem to have some kind of nag screen or otherwise unwanted behavior, MSE is really great in this regard.
    Clean user interface and no nag prompts, if I had to guess who made this A/V I would have NEVER guessed Micrososft.
    Especially seeing how far downhill most of their other products have gone!
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  18. CeCeSam

    CeCeSam TS Rookie

    I am new to computers, and I'm NOT "ashamed" to admit I lack education in these things! I JUST "Join[ed] thousands of technology enthusiasts that contribute and share knowledge in our forum." because I'd like the BENEFIT of everyone's' KNOWLEGE. That is how people LEARN. I am well aware that "opinions" & "advice" are things that everyone has, and it is up to the reader to sort those out. I do find it ironic, though, how the people who claim never to take advice, surely have no problem offering it! Thank you, TechSpot contributors, for graciously sharing your experiences & knowledge; and for your patience with folks like myself! (< 4 yrs with laptop/ NO formal training) I was ADVISED this was the community to join to LEARN!:)
  19. p51d007

    p51d007 TS Evangelist Posts: 1,432   +746

    Use a 1-2 punch like a lot of people do.
    MSE, and Malwarebytes or something similar.
  20. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 13,527   +3,038

    I think you missed the subtlety of Mr Hansson's original post. I'm sure he's more than familiar with all of the free offerings. Yes, there are plenty of free alternatives to MSE. They all nag, with "Avira" being the most obnoxious of the "big three," (Avast, AVG, & Avira). IMO, "Avira" isn't worth installing, as the nags are that pervasive.

    The beauty of MSE is, (or ostensibly was), there's no paid version they could nag you to buy, after you opted for the free one.

    My understanding of "Windows Defender", is that it is targeted primarily at Windows OS files. So, arguably M$ is opting to protect its data, before yours. (And feel free to correct me on this if I'm wrong).

    "Advanced System Care" which is a PC cleaner, has gone from tolerably cajoling you to purchase it, to outright, nagware / adware. I was forced to remove it, after giving in to its update nags. So, in the AV, cleaner, malware prevention, freeware arena, my experience has been that everybody's nagging more, and giving away less.
  21. I haven't been recommended MSE since beginning. I have fixed a lot of people computers, and they always get problems with virus, trojans and malwares while they have MSE installed. MSE is a horrible product. I always suggest people to buy Kaspersky, but if they can't afford it then I recommend Avast. They never come back after I installed Kaspersky or Avast.... Perhaps I should keep install MSE to make money. :p
  22. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar Elite Techno Geek Posts: 6,480   +973

    I really like it and this is dissapointing
  23. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 13,527   +3,038

    You must admit, liking something that doesn't work is, well, a self defeating paradox.
  24. Adnel

    Adnel TS Rookie

    Well, quoting sure sucks here, lol. I didn't write that.

    Avast: Right click on TaskBar icon, select Silent Gaming mode... forget for 1 year... and as usual, be careful, no solution is perfect.[/quote]
  25. R3DP3NGUIN

    R3DP3NGUIN TS Booster Posts: 152   +12

    The only time I recommended MSE, was to AVG goers. otherwise I always used either Avast or Avira. Avira's advertising made me stop using the program mind-you.

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