Microsoft yields: boot to desktop, Start menu options in Windows 8.1?

Seriously though, someone tell me how the proposed 'bringing start menu back' helps in these situations.

1. You click on Settings icon on the Charms menu. A dumbed-down Metro settings menu appears.
2. Windows update popup appears saying updates are ready to be installed. Cool. You click it and get a list of "KB5485148514, KB78854651452, KB5614654654" on Metro UI. Gee, so informative!
3. You open a photo. You Alt-Tab out, and it's freaking gone. It's not on the start bar on desktop mode. WHERE IS IT?!?!
4. You play a music file. Omfg how do you exit it?? There is no back button, oh gawd why.
5. You want to create a wifi connection to something manually. Okay, cool, I'll just click on the wifi icon as usual. Oh, hi there Metro UI side pop-up. But where is the add button??? Remove?? I CAN'T SEE ALL MY CONNECTIONS WAT IS DIS.
6. You get the picture. Metro invades every day life, even if you're a beginner to PC's and don't know any different.
 
I work in IT for a large telecom company, we are just now switching to Win 7. 8 doesn't have a chance with large corps. We are not going to buy 70,000+ touch screen PC's., and many of our own apps we don't even have ready for Win 7 yet. We will get a few tablets for executives and try some out with field techs, but the techs are so hard on equipment we will probably stay with Tough Books and the execs are stuck on iPads and Apple in general. If MS sticks to their guns we may have to upgrade in the future, but like I said it took a long time for us to get off XP and go to 7. I see Win 8 as a standard consumer OS with light corp involvement.
 
They get bashed for not innovating, they get bashed for innovating. They get bashed for not listening, they get bashed for listening.

People love to hate Microsoft, and I find it very disturbing. Steve Jobs in his black turtleneck and 'underdog' status gave birth to droves of brainwashed loyals.

The whole reason any of you even know how to use a computer, let alone have one in the comfort of your home, is thanks to Microsoft.
 
MS.......stop trying to tell what's good for your customers and listen to what they want. Don't act like the "GREAT AND POWERFUL OZ"!!
 
Too little too late, at least as far as the corporate sector is concerned, which is the only market large enough to save 8 from Vista's fate. What they could do instead is concentrate on breaking Windows 9 down into 10 or 12 different versions (Desktop Power User, Tablet, Media Center Lite, Desktop Lite, Phone, Server, Professional, Professional Office, Ultimate, Studio, Enterprise, Game Console, Portable, Home Premium, etc.). This would give everyone what they want, nothing they don't want, and stop the practice of forcing unnecessary garbage down peoples throats (which they've done from at least Windows 95 forward). If they could pull this off, with program compatibility and file sharing between versions, and legacy support, they would finish off Apple in the PC market, and possibly the mobile market as well. They would also stop losing market share to Linux distros, which already have a more modular approach, adding (or not adding) packages of software/drivers according to the end users needs. The landscape is changing rapidly, and a unified modular architecture would allow Windows to "go with the flow" of market changes in a timely manner instead of lagging behind like the lumbering giant it's become. Undoubtedly this would be a major undertaking, but who is in a better position to do it? Certainly M$ has the money and talent at it's disposal, but do they have the vision and leadership to make it happen? Only time will tell.
 
I am a home user. I like Win 8 (bored of 7), but I only like it if I do the following. Install "Start 8" and boot directly to desktop. Delete every Tile app I can. Ensure customer improvement setting is ON so Microsoft is getting all the info that this is what I am doing and how I run win 8. There are a few more changes, but that is basically it. Then it's similar to a refreshed Win 7, start button and all, no Metro to be seen anywhere. It does bug me though that after developing the eye pleasing Aero interface, they go to flat and ugly and then try and sell it by saying it is Modern
 
I should mention I only paid about $40 for it and $10 for Media Centre I believe. No way at today's prices.
 
I'm going to start calling the Start menu Christ. It's risen from the dead and I worship it!

Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain.
It's a good comparison though. Since Christ got this holes in his feet, he can't walk on water either, so neither he (let's pretend he's real), nor the start button can keep Windows 8 afloat. The way I see it, this is simply too little, too late.
 
It's a good comparison though. Since Christ got this holes in his feet, he can't walk on water either
Your suggesting you can walk on water, because you do not have holes in your feet.

Let me ask this question. Would a penny sink, only if you drilled a hole in it?

And no I'm not going to pretend he is real, I will let you make that mistake.
 
I bet Microsoft's board of directors are the biggest bunch of morons. Regardless if that's true or not, I think the stockholders should purge the board and fire everyone. Headhunt from upper management in Google ffs. It's not rocket science. They're going to run the company into the ground.

Google (Bing?...) their board of directors. There are no names there that scream technology or innovation. They have no business being on that board. As for Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer, they need to get their heads out of their asses. It seems to me that between them they control where the company is heading.

The stockholders need to stop this madness.
 
No business was going to upgrade to Windows 8 anyway. Most are just upgrading to 7 from XP. MS is doing the right thing by giving desktop users the ability to have a traditional desktop option while moving forward with the modern UI for mobile devises.
 
I totally concur with the statement about corporations and Windows 8. Enterprise software and the business division (including Office, and definitely Outlook w/ Exchange) is the bulk of their revenue and profit.
Microsoft so vastly altered the UI in W8 so much that corporate users used to either W7 or XP will flat out reject it simply because it's too different. I think ultimately corporations will drive continued need for desktop/laptop computers while consumers will push further into tablets. Instead of catering to both needs with separate optional UI pieces, they made a single sub-par one try to satisfy both.
 
All very well giving the option to boot to the Windows 8.1 Desktop but I want to know how I can launch an App from Start and on exit from the App, return control to Start. Is that too difficult for Microsoft to understand. After all they pushed the Metro Start Interface and now they are wriggling to run away.
 
I was starting to like the menue with its options for organizeing the apps and now im stuck to moving one by one and have trouble telling which ones are pinned to the start menue and which are not until I click on them one by one the name, catagory, or whats installed, is not the only options it should have for sorting and there needs to be a way of reporting for which apps are not working just in the metro location like why some features wont open or provide what it said it would but otherwise yeah I like it and I think they should keep it
 
I was starting to like the menue with its options for organizeing the apps and now im stuck to moving one by one and have trouble telling which ones are pinned to the start menue and which are not until I click on them one by one the name, catagory, or whats installed, is not the only options it should have for sorting and there needs to be a way of reporting for which apps are not working just in the metro location like why some features wont open or provide what it said it would but otherwise yeah I like it and I think they should keep it

Me too, except for the single fact that Windows 8 sucks, I really like it.
 
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