Nest is reportedly prepping a "4K" resolution indoor security camera

Shawn Knight

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Google’s Nest division is reportedly working on a 4K-esque indoor security camera that could break cover before the end of the month. Here’s everything we know at this hour.

The camera will apparently feature a 4K-capable sensor but only stream / record up to 1080p. The reason for this, according to Android Police which broke the story, has to do with technical limitations as streaming 4K video over Wi-Fi would be a taxing affair.

The benefit of having a 4K sensor is that the camera can effectively “zoom in” on a section of the image and display that quarter of the screen at 1080p resolution without image loss. When the camera detects motion, this is exactly what it’ll do – zoom in on the section where the action is taking place.

Sources say the camera will also be able to show a down-scaled 1080p full frame view for when you want to see the entire coverage area.

Unfortunately, there aren’t any plans to offer full 4K recording or streaming due to the aforementioned technical limitations although I suspect such functionality could be added in later via firmware update (perhaps in conjunction with a suitable video compression algorithm).

It’s worth reiterating that we’re talking about an indoor camera here; no word yet on when or if an outdoor, rugged version is in the works.

Android Police couldn’t share images of the camera but said it resembled a shower head with an LED ring around the lens to indicate when it is recording (much like a webcam).

As for pricing, well, it won’t come cheap. Expect to pay upwards of $300 for the opportunity when it does finally hit the market.

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war59312

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Junk! All nest cameras require Nest Aware and you can NOT even save the data locally even if u want to.

Security nightmare! And just basic is $10 a month per camera for just 10 days worth. A month is $30 a month. ha!
 

Badvok

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Junk! All nest cameras require Nest Aware and you can NOT even save the data locally even if u want to.

Security nightmare! And just basic is $10 a month per camera for just 10 days worth. A month is $30 a month. ha!
Seems like you have developed a hate for Nest for some weird reason. There are plenty of options that do allow you to store data locally so that tech savvy burglars can remove all record of their actions if you really want that.

In your hate rant you also seem to have totally messed up the pricing, it is not $10 per camera, it is $10 for the first camera and then $5 per additional camera. It is also cheaper if you pay annually. But then you don't want safe remote cloud recording so what is your problem?
 

BSim500

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Seems like you have developed a hate for Nest for some weird reason. There are plenty of options that do allow you to store data locally so that tech savvy burglars can remove all record of their actions if you really want that.
Are they the same "tech savvy burglars" who are 10x more likely to use a cheap Wi-Fi jammer (that adds no extra time to their burglary) to render Wi-Fi only Nest Cams utterly useless before even walking up the driveway (let alone entering the house), than spend an extra half-hour editing video footage? I think his point was, there's nothing "safe" about remote cloud recording if the wireless-only camera's themselves can be shut down at the source before the crime even starts resulting in several minutes of nice blank 4K cloud footage...

If you want serious grown-up security, get a hard wired camera system and place the DVR in a secure locked cupboard. Then buy a dog. Any home "security" setup that can be shut down from outside the house with a $100 walkie talkie sized device is a toy regardless of how "convenient" and "futuristic" it's marketed as.
 

Luay

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I recently bought a Vimtag P1 for baby monitoring and loved it. I really haven't seen any other camera that offers everything for their price. The resolution is 960P but that is more than clear enough for my phone and makes it snappier.
 

Uncle Al

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Yeah, I would see this one as a complete Rip Off and a waste of your money. There are simply too many systems out there that give you total control, and after all, that's what you need when designing your own security system.
 

axiomatic13

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So I have about 8 of the Nest cam's. They perform well but my complaint is on the home.nest.com site where you view the video. AWFUL. You can either view all cameras (only) or one camera ONLY at a time. There is no Main cam where other cams are smaller. (or combinations of) Nor can you review recorded cam footage while viewing the other live cams below (to the right of, whatever) that. IMO that is a major downgrade from other security cam dashboards. What's worse is that I CAN build the dashboard view page I want in HTML and apply the appropriate web links to the correct frame in the HTML page and it all works fine. But why do I have to do that? Why isn't it there "out of the box?" This is simply another "page" that Nest could create in EXACTLY ONE DAY and deploy it to the world. That's is the ridiculous part of owning Nest Cams.
 

wiyosaya

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I foresee a day when hackers will find a way in and then market these as "live action video" on porn sites. ;) IOT is still crap that can be easily hacked - at least as I see it.

IOT marketing, of course, does its best to convince potential buyers that all is well and that everyone has to have these.
 
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Bas Keur

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Junk! All nest cameras require Nest Aware and you can NOT even save the data locally even if u want to.

Security nightmare! And just basic is $10 a month per camera for just 10 days worth. A month is $30 a month. ha!

The hardware is topnotch, the vendor lock in is a true shame though.
 

Badvok

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Are they the same "tech savvy burglars" who are 10x more likely to use a cheap Wi-Fi jammer (that adds no extra time to their burglary) to render Wi-Fi only Nest Cams utterly useless before even walking up the driveway (let alone entering the house), than spend an extra half-hour editing video footage?
Jammers have to be pretty close to work unless the camera is close to the limits of the wifi. They'd also trigger the alarm. So hopefully the miscreant would be caught on camera with their image stored safely in the cloud before the signal was jammed.
Editing? Nope, they'd just grab the DVR/NAS and flog it.
If you want serious grown-up security, get a hard wired camera system and place the DVR in a secure locked cupboard. Then buy a dog. Any home "security" setup that can be shut down from outside the house with a $100 walkie talkie sized device is a toy regardless of how "convenient" and "futuristic" it's marketed as.
Yep, if you are willing to spend the money (a lot more than Nest costs) of course you can secure the DVR/NAS but you have to make it far, far better than your house security since once inside the building the miscreants will have all the time in the world to break it open.
 
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war59312

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Seems like you have developed a hate for Nest for some weird reason. There are plenty of options that do allow you to store data locally so that tech savvy burglars can remove all record of their actions if you really want that.

In your hate rant you also seem to have totally messed up the pricing, it is not $10 per camera, it is $10 for the first camera and then $5 per additional camera. It is also cheaper if you pay annually. But then you don't want safe remote cloud recording so what is your problem?
Whoops, missed the discounted pricing. Still, sucks!

What are those "options that do allow you to store data locally" on a nest?

Point is, I wish to control where the data is stored and how. I prefer to take full responsibility for my own data and not rely on the security claimed by another company or government.