New Sony patent could mean complete backwards compatibility on PlayStation 5

As for PS4 it'll be the easiest of the lot. Since these consoles appeared in 2013 they were little more than glorified low end x86 computers with mainstream graphics cores. Next gen will be an identical concept, only with more of everything.

People come out with this stupid naive talk all the time. A new console comes out and then ppl say yeah but the gpu is comparable to my 10 year old radeon which is so much more powerful which is also utter tosh. They then claim they can build a more powerful PC for less. In every claim the PC they build struggles to play games in 1080p and in anything between low and medium graphics all these to maintain a playable framerate.
A console hardware and software is leagues ahead of the PC in terms of core refinement and efficiency something the PC never match due to the 1000s of different pc configurations.

Sure im not saying consoles are superior, bang for buck they are and if side by side hardware the console wins, but if I spend $2k more on my PC I sure has hell expect it to look and play better than a $300 console.

p.s when rdr2 comes out on the PC you show me some proof that a low end x86 pc can pull off the graphics fidelity, resolution and frame rate of the aging ps4. Rememer this has to be done on a $250-300 spec...

p.p.s I know ps4 isn't super powerful, but I do know it owns pcs of comparable spec.
Dude, you contradict yourself multiple times in your comment
 
If they bring this to the table. I might consider stepping off my PC high horse. Through the years, I have been able to play PC games from any time period. I've always fought with the idea of spending on multiple systems. Especially with generational differences dictating which games could be played.
Well, not every era. The difficulty of getting legacy games to run on PC has always been a huge turnoff. To have PCs from various eras is less expensive than it is complicated. For instance, try running Lords of the Realm 2.
 
If they bring this to the table. I might consider stepping off my PC high horse. Through the years, I have been able to play PC games from any time period. I've always fought with the idea of spending on multiple systems. Especially with generational differences dictating which games could be played.
Depends on the games you like. Some (if not most) games just play better on PC, especially FPS and RTS games.

Just like sports and fighting games offer a better experience on consoles, multiplayer wise.
 
I mean you guys are a little late for this LOL way late I mean 1/2 you guys don't even make the old games anymore they don't even sell the old games anymore so PS5 being backwards compatible doesn't really make too much sense. Oh and if you go back to playing online being like it was like free LOL people should not have to pay to play online when they already bought the system and already pay for internet
 
Unless the PS5 is BC I will not buy it. The days of a console for every cycle of games is over for me. If I can pull the PS4 and fill that hole with the PS5 and play the games in my collection, I'm OK with that. Otherwise, no sale for me. I'll stick to PC gaming...
 
I'm almost 50 and have been a gamer since ColecoVision..
I never understood why consoles weren't made to be backwards compatible as they advanced over the years..
Having 3 different systems for the same company has always boggled my mind..
The PS2 was the only one that remains backwards compatible, while the early PS3 units were, the rest were not..
I'd pay the estimated $500 rumors are speculating..
I have many "go to" oldies from Ps1-PS2-and even PS3..
I'd call the new one PS5 AllGen if I were Sony..
For All Generations they've previously made, (that's if in fact they make it backwards compatible of coarse)
Looking forward to this for certain..
 
Well, the graphics your seeing on consoles pretty much a 7850. that was around the AMD R9, R7, Nvidia 9xx time frame. for the price of a console you could have a 970 or something around a R9 290 area. Both cards which would have no problem running games in higher fidelity today, even new blockbusters.
Remember when the ps4 came out it was 399, so your asking if a R9 290x or a Nvidia 970 can do what a ps4 can? Even now, at $250-300 you can get a something along the lines of a RX 580 or 1060 or bottom 1070.

So for the price of a console (XONEX $499/£450 and PS4 Pro $399/£350) you get a video card? ( I know these prices are fluctuating day by day)
How nice is that! But where is the chassis, PSU, MOBO, CPU, RAM, Storage, Monitor, keyboard, mouse, headset and Windows License (not pirated version or Linux if you prefer) is that for free right?
Please let me know and I will PM/DM my address to deliver it to me those free goodies for free.

Uh no. You mean optimization, refinement. Coding. A console is a single system wheres releasing it for PC means having a wider array of configurations for bugs and nonsense to show up. If a game is released for both consoles and PC, the pc version will have better performance but it has to be ported correctly.
Did you ever played Far Cry 5? that game runs smooth on the same resolution/video settings (e.g 1440p) with sufficient enough GPU (1060 or equivalent) with nearly the same FPS even on high-end GPUs too, also nicely scaling to widescreen and higher resolution 4K & 8K and with scaling to more than 4 cores too(even on Xeons)
Don't tell me that they are false prophet (it feels magic but it just needed some effort), if the majority of developers stop copy and paste 10-15 years old codes then DX12 will be developing much smoother and faster and CPU/GPU scalability wouldn't be an issue at all, instead they can't let go the old code because it is working and lazy af to adapt then overcome (BF and COD series are the best example for bad optimisation and bad coding).
Addition to this, when their "precious good old code" break whey will blame DX11 or 12 because it is so "crappy" and "difficult" to develop for that won't support a copy/paste code base from a god knows which obsolete version of DX.
That's the real problem with PC, you have a badly optimised game and in order to enjoy is with min 60 FPS @ 1080p you need a high end video card, where in theory an optimised af game (Far Cry 5) should give the same user experience across every GPU but able to scale itself for higher resolution and with more resources and CPUs/GPUs will be more valuable (2600K + GTX 560/580 good old buddies) and wouldn't need 8-16GB VRAM to run a game in 1080p on Ultra...IMHO
 
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Not sure why you think that. You can play with controllers on a PC too. It all depends on whether or not the PC port still has the couch play option enabled.

I dont think, I am sure. I play FIFA competitively and it is a desert on PC, 700 players online most of the times. Half of the games are against coin bots on ultimate team and there is a trainer to abandon the match when loosing and it wont count.

Mortal Kombat has 100 players online and Tekken has a hack to quit fight and still dont loose.
 
I dont think, I am sure. I play FIFA competitively and it is a desert on PC, 700 players online most of the times. Half of the games are against coin bots on ultimate team and there is a trainer to abandon the match when loosing and it wont count.

Mortal Kombat has 100 players online and Tekken has a hack to quit fight and still dont loose.
Ah, yes. Some of those games do have low-ish player counts. But in my defence, I don't play any of those games online, just with friends on a couch (one of the reasons I hate racing games this gen). :D
 
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