Nine out of ten Windows games can now run on Linux, data shows

[Theinsanegamer]

Some anti-cheats do work on linux (VAC, easy anti-cheat, punkbuster, battleye) and some still don't (EA javelin). Linux does work with TPM and secure boot as long as your kernel is signed. You can either use a distro that comes with a signed kernel who paid their microsoft tax, or you can sign the kernel yourself using a MOK (machine owner's key) and register your MOK with your UEFI.

I dont think we've yet seen a multiplayer game that demands the use of TPM/Secureboot that also uses a linux friendly anti cheat. So far its just battlefield and CoD, and RICOCHET doesnt support linux either.

I'd be interested in seeing if any games that did demand these things, that did work with Proton, were actually playable.

 

[GoldenGoat]

I dont think we've yet seen a multiplayer game that demands the use of TPM/Secureboot that also uses a linux friendly anti cheat. So far its just battlefield and CoD, and RICOCHET doesnt support linux either.

I'd be interested in seeing if any games that did demand these things, that did work with Proton, were actually playable.

I don't think those will ever work with Linux because of the way the integrate themselves into the Windows kernel. Not because of Secureboot though. Unless Microsoft kicks everyone out of the Windows kernel for security reasons, which should actually happen so we don't get another Crowdstrike-like incident. Secureboot really just has one job, which is to make sure your kernel hasn't been modified before boot. So from an anti-cheat perspective, it actually makes sense.

 

[dangh]

Anecdotes are not evidence.

Claiming games "run better in linux" with no evidence is pretty worn out, I'd agree.

Data always trumps emotions.

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Data indeed trumps emotions, from the video you linked:

nearly a parity in the performance on gaming on AMD gpu's. I know you wanted to select the worse case scenario, but there is no OSS drivers for nVidia and this is on nVidia, not on Linux.

I don't have an argument. I have facts.

Fact: performance in games is better in windows than Linux on average.

Facts: look above and on any other resource comparing linux and windows on open sourced amd gpu. Performance is nearly the same. Fact is, performance on nVidia cards is worse on Linux than on windows in gaming, but not in games in general. And that is nVidia fault as they don't release good drivers nor open the architecture so the community can fix it, as AMD or Intel already did.
So, facts are not as white and black as you are trying to suggest.

 

[Burty117]

Yeah this comment section went exactly as expected, all the same people who call Windows "garbage", "spyware", "utter nonsense", "rubbish", "bloated" etc...

All here defending Windows as much as possible, as always, hilarious.

 

[MTD2019]

Not much of a gamer but some experience with Linux. There is so much noise about nVidia and AMD driver updates for Windows game compatibility, but that level of driver tuning appears absent in Linux.
What am I not getting?

 

[axiomatic13]

If everyone here compared stats with Linux kernel 6.15, and later, you would see that Linux is consistently ahead now. At 6.14 and under, Windows was still competitive. But once AMD got the equivalent of the PPM driver in to the new 6.15 Linux kernel, that pushed Linux firmly out front. Your preferred CCD gets priority and is NOT tied to some silly Windows Game Bar like it is implemented in Windows 11. So everyone take a deep breath and check to see which Linux kernel you're defending, or slamming and revise your opinions as needed. Desktop Linux is very exciting right now and if Microsoft is not careful, Linux will catch up on things that are not core functions and achieve parity elsewhere other than performance related things.

 

[RedGuard]

I've been on Fedora for 3 years now and I have no problem playing my games. Sure, Unreal Engine 5 games run bad, but I heard it's the same on Windows.

 

[Theinsanegamer]

Data indeed trumps emotions, from the video you linked:

nearly a parity in the performance on gaming on AMD gpu's. I know you wanted to select the worse case scenario, but there is no OSS drivers for nVidia and this is on nVidia, not on Linux.


Facts: look above and on any other resource comparing linux and windows on open sourced amd gpu. Performance is nearly the same. Fact is, performance on nVidia cards is worse on Linux than on windows in gaming, but not in games in general. And that is nVidia fault as they don't release good drivers nor open the architecture so the community can fix it, as AMD or Intel already did.
So, facts are not as white and black as you are trying to suggest.

Facts: in one example, the 7900xtx achieved rough parity with windows. In other games used in the other tests, it was significantly slower.

Neither of these results are "way better" than windows results, as is claimed by Linux advocates.

Facts do, in fact, trump emotions.

Yeah this comment section went exactly as expected, all the same people who call Windows "garbage", "spyware", "utter nonsense", "rubbish", "bloated" etc...

All here defending Windows as much as possible, as always, hilarious.

Windows being bloated rubbish does not exist exclusively with linux not having performance losses compared to running natively on windows.

 

[Burty117]

Windows being bloated rubbish does not exist exclusively with linux not having performance losses compared to running natively on windows.

Yet plenty of reviewers out there found SteamOS or Bazite to run games considerably better on Microsoft’s own portable “ROG Ally X” even though it was designed with Windows in mind.

And honestly? Couldn’t care less, the vast majority of people, I mean old people, parents, non techies, non-gamers, just use a computer to browse the web and store photos, Linux easily does this. You think the Linux community has a stick up their arse? You should see the Windows fanbase…

 

[Theinsanegamer]

Yet plenty of reviewers out there found SteamOS or Bazite to run games considerably better on Microsoft’s own portable “ROG Ally X” even though it was designed with Windows in mind.

Yes, in a heavily power limited scenario, the bloat of Windows becomes more apparent. When you dont have such limits, the effects of Vulkan translation become more apparent.

 

[amghwk]

Anecdotes are not evidence.

Claiming games "run better in linux" with no evidence is pretty worn out, I'd agree.

Data always trumps emotions.

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Sigh...without first hand experience, it's not wise to see what others did, for raking more views.

Anyway, if you're happy with Windows, continue.

And I'm happy with Linux and gaming in Linux, even more than what I enjoyed with Windows long back.

For each, his own, I guess.

 

[HERBB]

I grew out of playing games when I was around 12 years old so gaming I could care less about . I wish there were not so many articles across the web about Linux .

Intelligent people know how awesome Linux is and how much faster PC's run on Linux compared to windows .

The last thing Linux users need is for more windows users to switch over . The more popular it becomes the more it's targeted by nefarious people .

 

[dangh]

Facts: in one example, the 7900xtx achieved rough parity with windows. In other games used in the other tests, it was significantly slower.

Neither of these results are "way better" than windows results, as is claimed by Linux advocates.

Have we watched the same video, or you just put a link here and didn't see a second of it? This is 20 games average, not a single game. Many games came better on linux than on windows, including Banishers, Hellblade, Black Myth: Wukong, STALKER 2, Palword, Kingdom Come (pretty massive). In some games (Witcher, space marines) linux wins in some resolution, windows in others. Some games are visibly better on windows (actually only riftbreaker), and rest are more or less the same on 1440p or higher.

I did not say Linux gaming fps is 'much better' on Linux. But you keep saying BS like it is 'significantly slower', where your own link proves that is not the case. Gaming on Linux and Windows provides similar performance across the board on Intel and AMD gpu, and for nVidia we need to thank nVidia for hindering their own product.

Facts. It is your own argument within the video reviews you shown here. So, stop saying BS.

 

[captaincranky]

And yet everyone sticks to windows because “its what I know and comfortable with” yet still complain in every comment section on how garbage windows is.

Microsoft needs to squeeze just a little bit harder and hopefully enough people will spend the time getting used to Linux and make the switch.

Well, Windows 11 is, (ostensibly) garbage, according to most reasonably well adjusted.adopters.

Windows 10 at the time of its strong armed, forced adoption, was garbage as well. I mean really, who in their right mind would want an OS that every "update" had required a complete reinstall.

The "sweet spot" of all versions was Windows 7. That's my story and I'm stinkin' to it.

You're right about the complaints. Our resident "tech-spurts", could, (in their fantasies), program a better OS, most certainly design CPUs better than Intel's, and without a doubt, design VGAs, that would outperform either Nvidia's or AMD's, for less than half the price.

And now for a dose of ancient wisdom, (In suppository form)

If wishes were VGAs, beggars would get at least 60 FPS at 4K.

Gamerz with glass cases shouldn't throw stones.

"To err is human, to complain is a forgone given".

Before I forget, "Happy Halloween".... ;pumpkin/tRump:

 

[Gravitytr1]

Call me back when Linux can run one cracked game. Or when I copy a installed game into a folder and I do not have to do anything to it.

Until then...

Are u implying that Linux can't run cracked games? If anything I would have thought cracked games with no drm would work better than drm games

 

[subnex]

To say 90% based on that wine/proton graph is slightly opyimisitic. Bronze basically means the game launches, silver that you can play for a little bit but with major issues. Anything not rated gold or platinun is not really enjoyable, so the stats should be more like 50% of all games. Still pretty giod though

 

[dangh]

To say 90% based on that wine/proton graph is slightly opyimisitic. Bronze basically means the game launches, silver that you can play for a little bit but with major issues. Anything not rated gold or platinun is not really enjoyable, so the stats should be more like 50% of all games. Still pretty giod though

That's not how does it work. Gold means it works nearly always oob, silver means some tinkering is required, bronze means you need to add certain parameters and it might be limited to a certain proton version. And even if in the latest proton or works very smooth, it will have lower rate due to old issues.
On modern distro with latest kernel usually bronze is like good. But lts distros will still not always work oob.

 

[takaozo]

Are u implying that Linux can't run cracked games? If anything I would have thought cracked games with no drm would work better than drm games

In my case, I download the torrent from internet and extract the archive.
I can play it on Windows without any issues as long as I have all Dot.net and VB and other required library installed. The save folders and registry are automatically created.
When I boot to Linux and try to run that app in Wine, it wont start. No error no description of the issue.
What I expect is that all the background verifications are done automatically and I should be notified I something is missing.
I also have a Nvidia GPU and there are more errors from the drivers. Also choosing the drivers is a pain.

Not for me to tinker with Wine/Proton or what ever is there. It's supposed to be more friendly.
This experience is different for each distro and what ever interface X, KDE, Grome...

Don't understand me wrong, I use Linux/Unix all day long at the office. But 99.99% are headless. I have some systems with an uptime of 300+ days.
Most of them are WAF, RProxy, firewalls, routers, vpn devices, web servers...etc.

 

[slavkoosy]

Meanwhile, Linux expects you to recompile everything every time they make a minor kernel update.

Huh? Are you talking about OS updates? I've never had to recompile anything during Fedora or Bazzite updates...

 

[slavkoosy]

I’d love to switch my gaming PC to Linux, but what’s the plan for all these new games that require TPM 2.0, Secure Boot, and invasive anti-cheat systems that only work on Windows? Games like Battlefield 6, and many more in the future, won’t run properly outside of it.

Until every game can run on Linux, most gamers will continue using Windows.

TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot both work on Linux, I have both enabled in Fedora and on another PC running Bazzite. If you have an AMD GPU, you can just download Bazzite and follow their guide for ensuring Secure Boot is enabled. TPM 2.0 is hardware-based, so if your mobo supports it then you have it already.

If you have an Nvidia GPU and want Secure Boot, then there is a single hoop and a reboot you need to jump through, then it works. My Fedora PC has a 4090 in it and as Secure Boot enabled..