Nvidia GeForce RTX 4080 Review: Fast, Expensive & 4K Capable All the Way

Avro Arrow

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if the feature is used in games and makes it look better then its not a frill or pointless feature.

youre missing my point, if im gonna drop a grand or more on a graphics card, the top tier options, then I want the best one possible, the one that will handle whatever a game can throw at it to the best of its abilities. A person could offer me a truck with 1000hp or sportscar with less power but I'd pick the car because I wanna be able to do more than a straight line.

if my goal is to run a game at ultra which it is I dont care that one card/brand does great at one thing then falters at all the others, if its competitor has the ability to run all those frills instead then in my eyes its the winner, sure to some those features are pointless but I'd rather be able to utilize them than talk myself out of regretting a purchase later.

now if were talking about lower budget cards then I can agree with you, because those buyers probably dont care about all the bells and whistles, its why we have options, but at the top of hill space is limited so I want the best.
That's a fair answer and if you're able to budget for that, more power to you. You have to admit however that your situation is anything but typical no matter how normal it seems to you.

There is one other thing that I think you missed though. The RTX 4080 isn't at the top of the hill and it's not the best. If you want to be at the top of the hill and have "the best", then you're better off spending the extra $400 for the RTX 4090. THAT is the card at the top of the hill, not the RTX 4080. To say that you want "the best" when talking about a card that isn't "the best", it comes across as weird. Maybe you have an RTX 4090 already and I've simply misunderstood you. If that's the case, I apologise.
 

ddferrari

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But this card isn't a "lambo". (you could call the future 4090ti a lambo)

It's not about being able to afford things or not, It's about the stupidly high prices they are demanding for all GPUs because they're the market leader. You should be outraged, not defending them. If every generation has such price increases then you'll eventually have GPUs at the same price as a lambo.
If we were talking about housing, energy or food costs, I would get the outrage. We actually need these things to survive. But a GPU?

Maybe I have a different perspective since I shelled out $1300 in 2012 for a GTX670 SLI setup - back when it was still a thing (and it scaled very nicely on nearly every game I played). The RTX 4080 is faster by a factor of 5X to 10X (?), so 10 years later the $1299 MSRP just doesn't strike me as being that ridiculous.

My point is that I'm surprised at the level of bitterness being shown in this discussion over the price of what is essentially a hobby toy for most of us. None of us know for sure what it cost Nvidia to manufacture this card, especially with global inflation (yes, that even affects them). Owning one of the best products in the world in any given category has always been expensive.

I'd imagine there will be some great deals on 30xx cards by the end of the year. I plan to hang onto my RTX 3080 for a long time. It does everything I need at 3440x1440.
 

ddferrari

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LMAO

Lamborghini? What are you smoking? This is s graphics card, not a luxury product. Nobody will admire you or give you "social clout" or whatever for having a RTX 4000 card.

And yes, it literally shouldn't exist. When put into the context where every GPU generation before this one both increased the maximum amount of performance available AND increased performance/$ in every segment at the same time (even the RTX 2000 series did it to some degree), the 4000 series, so far, is a huge failure. New GPUs shouldn't just infinitely increase in price every generation, they should replace the older GPUs in the same-ish price brackets, which is how the GPU market has operated in the past two decades.

Also, about the pathetic quip about personal income: The 4080 itself is irrelevant. $1000+ GPUs are a minuscule, insignificant portion of the GPU market. This product is inconsequential to the vast, overwhelming majority of the market. The issue highlighted in my comment is not about this product in particular, it's that the whole reason Nvidia is launching this particular product at a price that everyone, including themselves, knows is ridiculous is because this is their attempt to keep the RTX 3000 series at artificially inflated prices. That affects the market segments that are not irrelevant, like the RTX 3060 Nvidia is asking almost $400 for, or the RTX 3050 that Nvidia is asking a hilarious $300 for. Nvidia is launching 4000 series cards at ridiculous prices in an attempt to make leftover 3000 stock appear to be a better deal than it is. So even though the 4080 is an irrelevant product as far as actual market presence goes, it not receiving a proper $700/$800 or so price means it won't push the 3080 down, which won't push the 3070 down, which won't push the 3060 down, and so on. And THAT affects the products people actually buy.
If you are being forced to buy one of these cards by the authorities, reach out to me, poor soul. I will try to help you.
 

Puiu

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If we were talking about housing, energy or food costs, I would get the outrage. We actually need these things to survive. But a GPU?

Maybe I have a different perspective since I shelled out $1300 in 2012 for a GTX670 SLI setup - back when it was still a thing (and it scaled very nicely on nearly every game I played). The RTX 4080 is faster by a factor of 5X to 10X (?), so 10 years later the $1299 MSRP just doesn't strike me as being that ridiculous.

My point is that I'm surprised at the level of bitterness being shown in this discussion over the price of what is essentially a hobby toy for most of us. None of us know for sure what it cost Nvidia to manufacture this card, especially with global inflation (yes, that even affects them). Owning one of the best products in the world in any given category has always been expensive.

I'd imagine there will be some great deals on 30xx cards by the end of the year. I plan to hang onto my RTX 3080 for a long time. It does everything I need at 3440x1440.
A GPU is also important. it may not be essential to living, but it's still an important aspect of our lives (for both entertainment and work). If it was just the high end that was getting stupidly expensive then I would not be so angry about the current market prices, but it's the entire stack of GPUs.

And sorry for saying this, but nobody cares about how fast it was compared to something from 10 years ago. Why not compare it to the first Voodoo card? maybe Nvidia should price the new GPUs based on that card's performance.

Accepting the new prices today means that you will accept the new prices of future generations too. Another 50% and another 50% and another 50%. You'll be happy to pay because it's a "toy", right? Nvidia will only respond if their wallet is affected. Kinda like what happened with the 2000 series which everybody skipped. The 3080's price point was a direct response to the criticism the 2000 series got.
 
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kira setsu

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That's a fair answer and if you're able to budget for that, more power to you. You have to admit however that your situation is anything but typical no matter how normal it seems to you.

There is one other thing that I think you missed though. The RTX 4080 isn't at the top of the hill and it's not the best. If you want to be at the top of the hill and have "the best", then you're better off spending the extra $400 for the RTX 4090. THAT is the card at the top of the hill, not the RTX 4080. To say that you want "the best" when talking about a card that isn't "the best", it comes across as weird. Maybe you have an RTX 4090 already and I've simply misunderstood you. If that's the case, I apologise.
yes, thats my mistake, I know the 4080 isnt the pinnacle of nvidias new tier.

Yeah, I do have an odd situation gpu wise, gaming is my main hobby be it console or pc(even mobile), but I consider the pc the platform to get the best from a title so if I'm building a rig I'm going for the best parts I can cause I wanna see all the stuff all the time.

I dont own a 4090 but I've seen a 4090 in action because of my line of work, and its overkill honestly for most so I'm waiting on solid amd numbers to compare both sides.
 

m3tavision

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In all honesty, some people don't know how to size their dGPU. Or for their intended use.

1080p ?
1440p ?
3440x1440p ?
4k ?

Single-player walkthru ?
MMORPG ?
RPG ?
Fist Person Shooter ?
Competitive ?

What is your criteria for needing a particular dGPU..?

 

Avro Arrow

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You're right. I have been playing for the last 28 years and right now I can't understand why RT is so important. I saw it in action and it didn't blow my mind. Just a gimmick.
Totally! I mean, is this really all that special? Can someone explain to me why this is such a big deal?:
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Sure, it's pretty and all, but it's nothing that I'd pay an extra $200-$300 for!
yes, thats my mistake, I know the 4080 isnt the pinnacle of nvidias new tier.
There's nothing that I respect more than someone who owns their mistakes. (y) (Y)
Yeah, I do have an odd situation gpu wise, gaming is my main hobby be it console or pc(even mobile), but I consider the pc the platform to get the best from a title so if I'm building a rig I'm going for the best parts I can cause I wanna see all the stuff all the time.
I get where you're coming from because I'm mostly the same way. Maybe the difference is that I've been PC gaming since the 1980s so I've been accustomed to graphics levels that are a complete joke compared to today. Then there's the fact that I remember the transition to hardware tessellation. Now THAT was a real game-changer because it affected everything, not just things like reflections and shadows (that I never looked at to begin with). Compared to tessellation, RT's impact on gaming is a joke so it's hard for me to be impressed by it.

Because I've been PC gaming for so long (since 1984) and have built so many PCs (my first build was in 1988) it means that I've owned video cards from several different brands (even brands that no longer exist). A lot of gamers today have only ever owned one brand and they get this idea that the other one will somehow be different with regard to their overall experience. My experience has taught me that the difference between Radeon and GeForce is essentially the same as the difference between AMD and Intel CPUs. Believe it or not, there was a time when people actually thought that the experience from an AMD CPU was fundamentally different from using an Intel CPU. Maybe one day, people who think the same thing about Radeon and GeForce will be widely recognised as the noobs that they are and their idea will be just as laughable.
I dont own a 4090 but I've seen a 4090 in action because of my line of work, and its overkill honestly for most so I'm waiting on solid amd numbers to compare both sides.
Oh I couldn't agree more. I couldn't imagine wanting to pay that much for a video card. I would caution you that the value of the RX 7900 XTX is probably terrible. The only reason it looks good is because the RTX 4080 is $1,200. I expect a major price drop from the 7900 XT to the 7800 XT of over $300 with a minimal performance drop. That's how the Radeons usually work, like the difference between the 6800 XT and 6900 XT. The 6900 XT had an MSRP that was $350 (54%) more than the RX 6800 XT but only had a 9% performance lead. It was a bad value that people only bought because scarcity made them willing to buy anything at that point. Just because a card says "Radeon" doesn't mean its a good deal because no halo product is. A 9% increase in performance is nearly imperceptible but the 54% price increase is impossible to miss. :laughing:
 

Avro Arrow

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From latest reviews I felt that not only HU has lost it, but also LTT, JTC and GN a while back.
Looks like all youtubers are on Nvidia payroll since a while. There a few left that remain balanced but I can count them using one hand.
I refuse to believe that Steve Walton is on nVidia's payroll. I do however believe that nVidia's act of blacklisting them did succeed in sending them the intended message (as well as many other reviewers). The only reviewer that I've seen now who is 100% impartial is Steve Burke because he refuses any and all offers from hardware manufacturers and pays for everything himself. If a cardmaker won't give him a card, he just goes and buys one, making sure to include in his video that he was snubbed. He's also not very easy to impress and holds a product's value as a very important metric. He also likes to cut cards in half with pressurized water saws (LOL).

The thing is, I don't know if he's already independently wealthy. If he is, not getting samples really makes no difference to him like it could some others. In any case, he was very unimpressed with the 3080 Ti and the 4080:
I really don't expect that he gave either of those cards a 90% score based on performance alone. :laughing:
 

takaozo

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I refuse to believe that Steve Walton is on nVidia's payroll.
Watch the episode with 12VHPWR X-ray, where he blames users for melting connectors.
I know he is financial independent and he does what he can to avoid association with vendors . But look at him smiling when he is "spanking" Nvidia, like it's a joke nothing to be taken seriously. Body language and facial expression tell the same story, he's uncomfortable doing it and make it look like satire.
 

Avro Arrow

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Watch the episode with 12VHPWR X-ray, where he blames users for melting connectors.
I know he is financial independent and he does what he can to avoid association with vendors . But look at him smiling when he is "spanking" Nvidia, like it's a joke nothing to be taken seriously. Body language and facial expression tell the same story, he's uncomfortable doing it and make it look like satire.
Umm, you haven't seen just how many videos that he has done in which he's taking the piss out of nVidia, have you? I can guarantee you that nVidia does NOT like him very much but they can't do anything about it because of his position.
 

kira setsu

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Totally! I mean, is this really all that special? Can someone explain to me why this is such a big deal?:
maxresdefault.jpg

Sure, it's pretty and all, but it's nothing that I'd pay an extra $200-$300 for!

There's nothing that I respect more than someone who owns their mistakes. (y) (Y)

I get where you're coming from because I'm mostly the same way. Maybe the difference is that I've been PC gaming since the 1980s so I've been accustomed to graphics levels that are a complete joke compared to today. Then there's the fact that I remember the transition to hardware tessellation. Now THAT was a real game-changer because it affected everything, not just things like reflections and shadows (that I never looked at to begin with). Compared to tessellation, RT's impact on gaming is a joke so it's hard for me to be impressed by it.

Because I've been PC gaming for so long (since 1984) and have built so many PCs (my first build was in 1988) it means that I've owned video cards from several different brands (even brands that no longer exist). A lot of gamers today have only ever owned one brand and they get this idea that the other one will somehow be different with regard to their overall experience. My experience has taught me that the difference between Radeon and GeForce is essentially the same as the difference between AMD and Intel CPUs. Believe it or not, there was a time when people actually thought that the experience from an AMD CPU was fundamentally different from using an Intel CPU. Maybe one day, people who think the same thing about Radeon and GeForce will be widely recognised as the noobs that they are and their idea will be just as laughable.

Oh I couldn't agree more. I couldn't imagine wanting to pay that much for a video card. I would caution you that the value of the RX 7900 XTX is probably terrible. The only reason it looks good is because the RTX 4080 is $1,200. I expect a major price drop from the 7900 XT to the 7800 XT of over $300 with a minimal performance drop. That's how the Radeons usually work, like the difference between the 6800 XT and 6900 XT. The 6900 XT had an MSRP that was $350 (54%) more than the RX 6800 XT but only had a 9% performance lead. It was a bad value that people only bought because scarcity made them willing to buy anything at that point. Just because a card says "Radeon" doesn't mean its a good deal because no halo product is. A 9% increase in performance is nearly imperceptible but the 54% price increase is impossible to miss. :laughing:
Raytracing is one of those things that's just hard to explain, I literally keep Control installed so when friends go "whats the point of it?" I can fire it up and point at my screen like a maniac screaming DO YOU SEEEEE!

it really is a feature that can be so subtle in these bombastic *** games that you can miss it, but those times when youre not shooting literally everything and causing explosions and get to see the reflections(control, guardians of the galaxy), lighting/shadows(metro) etc, its friggin amazing to see.

and thats honestly why I get swayed towards nvidia, because they'll give me(let me pay for really) the stuff to crank those extra features up.

If I didnt care about RT & other stuff I would absolutely snag an AMD card, I'm just addicted to flipping all the toggles to on when I buy a game for pc, I'm not a graphics snob, hell I just spent 2hrs last night trying to get split/second to run correctly, but I always wanna see the shiny stuff.
 

Avro Arrow

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If I didnt care about RT & other stuff I would absolutely snag an AMD card, I'm just addicted to flipping all the toggles to on when I buy a game for pc, I'm not a graphics snob, hell I just spent 2hrs last night trying to get split/second to run correctly, but I always wanna see the shiny stuff.
That's cool. If you like it, you like it and that's ok. Clearly you're not the only one because it has made a big impact on the market.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think that it's completely useless because I can definitely see the coolness of the reflections. I do think that nVidia over-hyped it to the nth degree because they know that they have an advantage in that area. I've tried it a few times and while I could see the reflections when I stopped and looked around, I very rarely stop and look around when I'm gaming so for the most part, it had no effect on me at all. As for the shadows, I honestly don't care one way or the other. Back when I was still using my R9 Fury (before I got my RX 5700 XT), if I needed to turn something down to bump my frame rates (it was after all a very old card at that point), shadows and motion blur were the first things I would turn down because I didn't even notice them when they were there. :laughing:

I won't deny that it looks nice, because it does. I guess that, to me, most games look really nice already so RT isn't that big of a deal and I can't justify paying (sometimes) hundreds of dollars extra for it. By the time I want to upgrade my RX 6800 XT, I'm sure that ALL cards will have great RT performance and RT itself will have improved significantly. I'll probably have it turned on all the time at that point. I might try turning reflections on and leave shadows off because that would give me better performance than having it on full. Since non-RT shadows turned down to medium or low (depending on the game) are more than good enough for me, there's no reason for me to incur that performance penalty.

I thank you for your answers because you've helped me to understand why anyone would care about RT at this point. Sure, it's not for me but not everyone is me. Now, I have a good understanding that I didn't have before. Thumbs up to you good buddy! (y) (Y):D
 

NeoMorpheus

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What is your criteria for needing a particular dGPU..?
A gazillion FPS@8K with RT on!

And not just any RT, it must be RTX, blessed by Lord Jensen himself!!

Jab aside, thats the main problem today, people dont do that, they only read that info (above (FPS with RT on yo!) as pushed by the influencers and ignore their own needs or means.
 
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NeoMorpheus

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I'm still traumatized by having paid $2K for a 3080ti last February. What's this thing worth used now, maybe $700 at best? I'm hosed.
The "funny" thing about this, as Avro has said, the good reasonable GPU was the 6800XT, but I had a couple of seconds to decide if a 6900XT at msrp was better buy than no GPU at all, since it was in the middle of the pandemic and I was able to grab one and place it on the cart before it went away.
So I erred on that and ended up with one. Now I cant sell it for even 600...
 

Geralt

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Totally! I mean, is this really all that special? Can someone explain to me why this is such a big deal?:
maxresdefault.jpg

Sure, it's pretty and all, but it's nothing that I'd pay an extra $200-$300 for!

There's nothing that I respect more than someone who owns their mistakes. (y) (Y)

I get where you're coming from because I'm mostly the same way. Maybe the difference is that I've been PC gaming since the 1980s so I've been accustomed to graphics levels that are a complete joke compared to today. Then there's the fact that I remember the transition to hardware tessellation. Now THAT was a real game-changer because it affected everything, not just things like reflections and shadows (that I never looked at to begin with). Compared to tessellation, RT's impact on gaming is a joke so it's hard for me to be impressed by it.

Because I've been PC gaming for so long (since 1984) and have built so many PCs (my first build was in 1988) it means that I've owned video cards from several different brands (even brands that no longer exist). A lot of gamers today have only ever owned one brand and they get this idea that the other one will somehow be different with regard to their overall experience. My experience has taught me that the difference between Radeon and GeForce is essentially the same as the difference between AMD and Intel CPUs. Believe it or not, there was a time when people actually thought that the experience from an AMD CPU was fundamentally different from using an Intel CPU. Maybe one day, people who think the same thing about Radeon and GeForce will be widely recognised as the noobs that they are and their idea will be just as laughable.

Oh I couldn't agree more. I couldn't imagine wanting to pay that much for a video card. I would caution you that the value of the RX 7900 XTX is probably terrible. The only reason it looks good is because the RTX 4080 is $1,200. I expect a major price drop from the 7900 XT to the 7800 XT of over $300 with a minimal performance drop. That's how the Radeons usually work, like the difference between the 6800 XT and 6900 XT. The 6900 XT had an MSRP that was $350 (54%) more than the RX 6800 XT but only had a 9% performance lead. It was a bad value that people only bought because scarcity made them willing to buy anything at that point. Just because a card says "Radeon" doesn't mean its a good deal because no halo product is. A 9% increase in performance is nearly imperceptible but the 54% price increase is impossible to miss. :laughing:
I saw something like that when I experienced RT for the first time. Nothing to write home really. No justification to pay extra for that gimmick.
 

Avro Arrow

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The "funny" thing about this, as Avro has said, the good reasonable GPU was the 6800XT, but I had a couple of seconds to decide if a 6900XT at msrp was better buy than no GPU at all, since it was in the middle of the pandemic and I was able to grab one and place it on the cart before it went away.
So I erred on that and ended up with one. Now I cant sell it for even 600...
Well, that was a VERY specific time and I don't blame you one bit for grabbing what you did. It's not like I didn't overpay greatly for my RX 6800 XT but to me, it was a historic card since it was the first Radeon reference model that didn't use a loud blower for cooling. I also loved how it looked and it was still $700 cheaper than I could get any other RX 6800 XT for so I just decided to deal with it. Under normal circumstances, you and I would've both just got the RX 6800 XT at the prices that we should've paid.

Under normal circumstances, I always buy at the price point that is just below the point where the law of diminishing returns kicks in. I don't think that anyone who bought the 6900 XT because there was literally nothing else did anything wrong. The silicon shortage made fools of us all (some more than others but all fools nevertheless) and I have absolutely no intention of ever having to pay too much for a video card again. I got lucky in 2017 to get my R9 Fury for half the price of an RX 580, a card that was slower than the R9 Fury but the second mining craze messed me up good. I did manage to mine back over $400 so while I did pay too much, it didn't end up as bad as it seemed at the time. :laughing:
 

NeoMorpheus

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I refuse to believe that Steve Walton is on nVidia's payroll.
Likewise.

He is the only reviewer left that I would not call “just another influencer” , but I am concerned about his recent change of heart about RT.

Then again, the mindless nvdroids love that metric to fill their empty lives and sadly for us, they are the majority, so I might understand why Steve is doing that.

I hope that changes on Steves part…at least until we are proven wrong that RT is not a useless gimmick.
 

m3tavision

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I saw something like that when I experienced RT for the first time. Nothing to write home really. No justification to pay extra for that gimmick.

Spending more, or even using ray tracing is hard to get ones head around, if you play any multiplayer game. That is why ray tracing is reserved for casual gamers who buy into marketing.

Nobody buys a $600+ GPU to get less frames..! <--that is why nobody upgrades for "ray tracing" and it is more of a nostalgia thing, or a self-gloat thing, but nobody cares about realistic puddles in Battlefield... RT the way it is being pushed by nvidia is just marketing.

Warzone 2.0 is pushing the GPU craze right now... not paid for gimmicks.



Price/performance matters to everyone.
 

Avro Arrow

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Likewise.

He is the only reviewer left that I would not call “just another influencer” , but I am concerned about his recent change of heart about RT.
I would say the same about Steve Burke. He bows down to nobody.
Then again, the mindless nvdroids love that metric to fill their empty lives and sadly for us, they are the majority, so I might understand why Steve is doing that.
Kinda sorta... I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority of gamers use Radeons. After all, that's what's in every Playstation and Xbox for at least the last 2 generations. For PC gamers, that's a different story but... gamers are gamers. :D
I hope that changes on Steves part…at least until we are proven wrong that RT is not a useless gimmick.
I don't think that RT is a useless gimmick, I just think that it's a useless gimmick right now because it's not mature enough as a technology. Do I think that it will ever be as impactful as hardware tessellation? No I don't but I do think that we're still only seeing the beginning of RT. Of course, by the time that RT is mature and a wonderful thing, all brands of cards will support it 100% without issues so nVidia's advantage there will either cease to exist or cease to have meaning to anyone.
 

m3tavision

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Ray tracing can aid in development... but they way Nvidia is pushing/marketing it is not what Developers want to use it for... but nVidia keeps paying them for exclusives, to showcase their proprietary tech.

Developers using a global rays to easily locate and bake-in shader lighting can cut down on vast amounts of development. Using ray tracing to make perfect images in water puddles is NOT what developers care about... only what NVidia is paying them to showcase.

RDNA Consoles will have RT lighting in ways that help the Studios deliver a quality games, not highlighted/market hardware glitz.
 

takaozo

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Using ray tracing to make perfect images in water puddles is NOT what developers care about... only what NVidia is paying them to showcase.
Water puddles ray tracing....... and sidewalk that looks like glass in CP2077 is all we asked for. Joke aside when 4090 perf will come to mid tier maybe then it will become a thing.
But at price/watts/issues the 4090 has right now makes no one desire/afford the damn thing.
Same for this 4080 price to high for what it brings.
We didn't ask for stellar performance, just good prices at every tier after the last years.
A Titan/Gorilla/Godzila/ class should exist as a indicator of what's next, like prototype cars.
 

m3tavision

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Raytracing is one of those things that's just hard to explain, I literally keep Control installed so when friends go "whats the point of it?" I can fire it up and point at my screen like a maniac screaming DO YOU SEEEEE!

it really is a feature that can be so subtle in these bombastic *** games that you can miss it, but those times when youre not shooting literally everything and causing explosions and get to see the reflections(control, guardians of the galaxy), lighting/shadows(metro) etc, its friggin amazing to see.

and thats honestly why I get swayed towards nvidia, because they'll give me(let me pay for really) the stuff to crank those extra features up.

If I didnt care about RT & other stuff I would absolutely snag an AMD card, I'm just addicted to flipping all the toggles to on when I buy a game for pc, I'm not a graphics snob, hell I just spent 2hrs last night trying to get split/second to run correctly, but I always wanna see the shiny stuff.


You do realize that Control is nothing other than Batman: Arkham Asylum turned into an office building using a new IP...

The gameplay become boring after the first day and it has zero redeeming value as a single player game. The only reason they can use Ray Tracing, is because it's a closed-world (inside game), with loading screens, no vistas with everything centered around the character. (Also, can u tell the difference between baked lighting and rt?)


How many hours this week/month, have you played Control..? (I've played over 30 hours of Warzone this week and have all the bell & whistles turned off, or down)
 
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kira setsu

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You do realize that Control is nothing other than Batman: Arkham Asylum turned into an office building using a new IP...

The gameplay become boring after the first day and it has zero redeeming value as a single player game. The only reason they can use Ray Tracing, is because it's a closed-world (inside game), with loading screens, no vistas with everything centered around the character. (Also, can u tell the difference between baked lighting and rt?)


How many hours this week/month, have you played Control..? (I've played over 30 hours of Warzone this week and have all the bell & whistles turned off, or down)
dont know how long I've played control, its fun, which is all I care about, I can toggle on invincibility and just mess around with game mechanics, be a psychic demigod.

on the other hand I wouldnt touch warzone cause running around being gunned down by tryhards...isn't fun, but even if I did I'd still turn everything on cause thats the reason I burn cash on this pc of mine, the graphics.