Nvidia investigating cases of melting RTX 4090 power cables, RDNA 3 won't use 12VHPWR

Avro Arrow

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That's a ton of space being used up on a card for four of the 8 pin PCIE connectors. The founder's edition and AIB cards both would have been bigger with that many 8 pin connectors.
Who cares as long as it's not melting? It's not like a card that huge doesn't have the space for it. Do you prefer the melting connector over the non-melting ones because they take up too much space for your liking? :laughing:
 

ChristopherB

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Who cares as long as it's not melting? It's not like a card that huge doesn't have the space for it. Do you prefer the melting connector over the non-melting ones because they take up too much space for your liking? :laughing:

The issue is how many power adapters or connectors are actually melting? SO far its a handful of people who have the issue, however every time someone has an issue, it gets reported and retweeted everywhere. That makes it appear that its hundred or thousands of people with the issue when its just the same few people having their problem passed around all over the place again and again and again and again....

If you look at the Nvidia connector tracking posts on reddit for example, there are 15 confirmed cases of adapters/connectors melting. The latest tweet form GamersNexus about the topic says they have received news of 10 people who possible have issues with the adapter or connector.
 

Avro Arrow

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The issue is how many power adapters or connectors are actually melting? SO far its a handful of people who have the issue, however every time someone has an issue, it gets reported and retweeted everywhere. That makes it appear that its hundred or thousands of people with the issue when its just the same few people having their problem passed around all over the place again and again and again and again....
Oh I'm sure that it isn't nearly as common as it appears but it's common enough that it seems like every card has this problem. This kind of thing is EXACTLY how Radeons got their bad reputation for drivers (even though I've NEVER had driver issues with them). What annoys me about this happening is that (admittedly insane) people paid US$1,600 for these monsters and there's no way that ANYTHING should go wrong when you're paying that much for a goddamn VIDEO CARD.
If you look at the Nvidia connector tracking posts on reddit for example, there are 15 confirmed cases of adapters/connectors melting. The latest tweet form GamersNexus about the topic says they have received news of 10 people who possible have issues with the adapter or connector.
Yes, but the point remains that for a US$1,600 VIDEO CARD, there should be absolutely NO issues at all, period. For that price, the thing should be able to take a 9mm bullet in the backplate and keep on trucking.

These people paid through the nose, only to discover that due diligence hadn't been exercised with regard to quality-control. Sure, I think that they're absolute numbskulls to pay that much for a video card but I do believe that if they're going to pay that (it's their right), they should be much better taken care of than this.
 

ChristopherB

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Oh I'm sure that it isn't nearly as common as it appears but it's common enough that it seems like every card has this problem. This kind of thing is EXACTLY how Radeons got their bad reputation for drivers (even though I've NEVER had driver issues with them). What annoys me about this happening is that (admittedly insane) people paid US$1,600 for these monsters and there's no way that ANYTHING should go wrong when you're paying that much for a goddamn VIDEO CARD.

Yes, but the point remains that for a US$1,600 VIDEO CARD, there should be absolutely NO issues at all, period. For that price, the thing should be able to take a 9mm bullet in the backplate and keep on trucking.

These people paid through the nose, only to discover that due diligence hadn't been exercised with regard to quality-control. Sure, I think that they're absolute numbskulls to pay that much for a video card but I do believe that if they're going to pay that (it's their right), they should be much better taken care of than this.

Its obviously not that common if two places tracking the issue have only found a handful of verified cases of the problem. As I said, it seems common because every keeps reposting and retweeting the exact same few cards with the adapter issue.

Also, you keep focusing on it being a video card issue when its a power adapter issue.

I've also seen RTX 3090s that melted 8 pin power connectors and also at least one that caught on fire and those don't get retweeted and reposted everywhere again and again and again.... The issue is getting a lot of attention because its a new card and a new connector.

Also, its likely a sub contractor issue. Nvidia can't inspect every single adapter that is made by every subcontractor, especially when the adapters are likely sent directly to the AIBs from the subcontractor(s). Many of the factories in China that makes those kinds of things are known to swap in sub standard parts either by accident or intentional to make shipping and production deadlines. If its one days' worth of production with the wrong wires or assembled incorrectly causing the issues for the people having the problems, its often hard to catch until a problem does pop up.

I have a friend who worked for an audio company with factories in china and another friend who worked for two cell phone companies with factories in China. They have told many stories of the quality control issues there that are often missed even with thorough inspection at the factories. Its a lot more common than you think it is. A few years back one of the large cell phone companies offered a limited edition color in the US. Not because it was planned, but because the subcontractor messed up and made 12,000+ cell phone bodies of the wrong color.

As for the Radeon issues, I had an RX 480 that fried a motherboard PCIEx16 slot because it was one of the reference design cards that drew 95 watts through the slot on the 12V rail when the PCIEx16 slot spec says a maximum of 75 watts in all of the voltage rails. I also had driver issues with other AMD cards. However, discussing the various issues people had or didn't have with AMD cards and drivers is off topic for this thread.