Nvidia soft-launches the GeForce GTX 1060, coming later this month for $249

I've been waiting to upgrade my GTX 660Ti. This card could be it, but I can wait until the reviews come. I also am awaiting to see the RX480 cards with 3rd party coolers, so we can see what they will bring to the table. All around, seems like us consumers might win with some competition here.
 
If I'm not mistaken, that should be fix-able with a software/driver update, no? If it's a hardware thing I imagine there's a cheap work-around, but it is pretty comical to advertise the 10 series as "VR ready" or whatever, and then not verify such a simple thing...

It depends if it is just a driver issue or if it is something in the hardware.
 
Here we again! Where's HardReset to tell everyone the power hungry and slower 480 is the better purchase?

so if Nvidia's performance claims are accurate, the GTX 1060 will be around the same cost per frame as the RX 480.

So RX 480 is much faster on DX12.

LOL. techspot members already squashed your directx12 argument.

Nice, can't wait to see benches. I thought they would skip the founder's edition junk?

So the card isn't releasing now, it's be a few weeks till benches and release and then even more until the founders edition junk wears off? It's going to be a tough sell, AMD just released a drive with 3% more overall performance plus those aftermarket cards are going to be OC'd. By the time the 1060's price comes down the RX 480 is going to be around the same speed and $50 cheaper.

The 3% driver is negligible as both NVIDIA and AMD releases drivers to enhance performance of popular games. Now you just decide which company makes most of their drivers.

OC version is not something to make you decide what card are you buying. Both AMD and NVIDIA releases OC versions so not really a proper argument here. I think the question should be is how much gtx1060 will cost? All hardware websites praised the gtx1070's efficiency and performance. Picture that architecture in a gtx1060 card and given the history prices for gtx960 and gtx760. Competition is good.
 
LOL. techspot members already squashed your directx12 argument.



The 3% driver is negligible as both NVIDIA and AMD releases drivers to enhance performance of popular games. Now you just decide which company makes most of their drivers.

OC version is not something to make you decide what card are you buying. Both AMD and NVIDIA releases OC versions so not really a proper argument here. I think the question should be is how much gtx1060 will cost? All hardware websites praised the gtx1070's efficiency and performance. Picture that architecture in a gtx1060 card and given the history prices for gtx960 and gtx760. Competition is good.

Both of those are factors when one side has a month lead on the other. When Nvidia releases the 1060, the RX 480 will at least have the one 3% driver update, if not more. TechSpot is going to benchmark both cards with the latest drivers when the 1060 launches.
 
The power draw issue has just been fixed. Techspot is just slow with news sometimes.
You're saying the 480 uses less than 120 watts now?
No, didn't think so...

By the way, the real news is that some 4gb RX480's could be unlocked to be 8gb (+ speed becomes 8 GHZ too), as reported here:

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-radeon-rx-480-4gb-to-8gb-memory-unlock.html
Just a shame the card is already quite puny as the difference between 4GB and 8GB makes pretty much no difference across most games:
http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2503-amd-rx-480-4gb-vs-8gb-benchmark-is-it-worth-it

Edit: after reading more articles I take that back, the more VRAM the better it was above 1080p resolutions. Problem with that is, it wasn't fast enough for 60fps anyway so it didn't really help.
 
Edit: after reading more articles I take that back, the more VRAM the better it was above 1080p resolutions. Problem with that is, it wasn't fast enough for 60fps anyway so it didn't really help.
It would still be a steal at $200 and a probably a solid contender against gtx 1060. Now I begin to like this card more actually
 
I managed to snag one at $700 three weeks ago, but yeah, hard to find.
Yeah, a couple better known online retailers will have more stock mid july (a week or two from now) so it's just a matter of waiting and hoping stock lasts until I can snag mine~
 
Some thoughts about availability: Please explain your kid in the summer break he should wait for another month to play computer games because you want to buy Nvidia instead of AMD.
 
You're saying the 480 uses less than 120 watts now?
No, didn't think so...


Just a shame the card is already quite puny as the difference between 4GB and 8GB makes pretty much no difference across most games:
http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2503-amd-rx-480-4gb-vs-8gb-benchmark-is-it-worth-it

Edit: after reading more articles I take that back, the more VRAM the better it was above 1080p resolutions. Problem with that is, it wasn't fast enough for 60fps anyway so it didn't really help.

The power draw issue has been fixed. It now draws more for the PCIe connector instead of the slot.
 
The only thing AMD should be focused right now for me are the drivers they produce good cards but man nVidia drivers are so much better that I can afford to pay 20/30USD more for the team who work on drivers for nVidia cards.
 
The power draw issue has been fixed. It now draws more for the PCIe connector instead of the slot.
I mean the fact it eats over 40 watts more power over the 1060 and is going to be 10% slower in everything apart from 1 or 2 games...

Of course this is the assumption that Nvidia are actually telling any truth in their launch statistics but you know what? They were fairly accurate with the 1080 and 1070 soo...
 
The only thing AMD should be focused right now for me are the drivers they produce good cards but man nVidia drivers are so much better that I can afford to pay 20/30USD more for the team who work on drivers for nVidia cards.

You caught my interest :) How exactly are nVidia drivers better? In which particular way? I would like to hear head to head comparison of two absolutely different software packages...
 
The only thing AMD should be focused right now for me are the drivers they produce good cards but man nVidia drivers are so much better that I can afford to pay 20/30USD more for the team who work on drivers for nVidia cards.


Clearly you don't read the news. I'm one of AMD's biggest detractors when it comes to drivers, haven't had to fight through too many issues (many of which remain unresolved) with the dreaded Catalyst Control Center however many years ago, and even I see that AMD is releasing driver updates at a pace to rival nVidia, these days.
 
You caught my interest :) How exactly are nVidia drivers better? In which particular way? I would like to hear head to head comparison of two absolutely different software packages...


I believe the implication was that AMD's drivers aren't updated as often, or are buggy... something that was very much true, a number of years ago.
 
Some thoughts about availability: Please explain your kid in the summer break he should wait for another month to play computer games because you want to buy Nvidia instead of AMD.
Preference, also because I'm your father* and hold the wallet, and therefore their ability to upgrade in the first place. If said child had a part time job and the means to upgrade themselves, they could do [almost] whatever they want. Knowing me, I'd probably hand down the 980ti** I'd be replacing with the 1080.

*Disclaimer: don't have children
**Disclaimer: don't actually have the 980ti, but in this scenario I do.
 
You caught my interest :) How exactly are nVidia drivers better? In which particular way? I would like to hear head to head comparison of two absolutely different software packages...


I believe the implication was that AMD's drivers aren't updated as often, or are buggy... something that was very much true, a number of years ago.

It seems to be pretty obvious, anyway that was as you mentioned a number years ago, so what's the point of his comment in these days? :)
 
I believe the implication was that AMD's drivers aren't updated as often, or are buggy... something that was very much true, a number of years ago.

Nvidia drivers were supposed to support Async shaders about two years ago. We are still waiting for that support.

That's clear fact and not just "I tried card X once and drivers sucked" -type opinion. So think again who has better drivers.
 
I always buy AMD
Good for you, I hope you are enjoying your current Radeon card, and will enjoy future cards when you upgrade. I have done the same with my aging GTX 570, and will be sure to continuing enjoying myself when I finally get my GTX 1080. :D

(not directed at EClyde): Why all the haaaaaate~
 
I believe the implication was that AMD's drivers aren't updated as often, or are buggy... something that was very much true, a number of years ago.

Nvidia drivers were supposed to support Async shaders about two years ago. We are still waiting for that support.

That's clear fact and not just "I tried card X once and drivers sucked" -type opinion. So think again who has better drivers.
I'd say at this point it's hard to argue who has the better support/drivers/software features. Each has their own strengths and weaknesses (the aforementioned Asynchronous Shading support as an example of a strength) on the software side. This was not always the case in the past hence the "AMD sux" comments.
 
I mean the fact it eats over 40 watts more power over the 1060 and is going to be 10% slower in everything apart from 1 or 2 games...

Of course this is the assumption that Nvidia are actually telling any truth in their launch statistics but you know what? They were fairly accurate with the 1080 and 1070 soo...

Oh yeah, it's nearly 100% chance that the Nvidia card is going to use less power. The other day I saw an article that made a really good point. Even if the 1060 does beat the RX 480 at 1080p it's not a problem because both cards can already handle 144 Hz 1080p. On the other hand, at 1440p, AMD video cards have always have the advantage at higher resolutions. You can attribute that to higher memory bandwidth and more memory. We could see the RX 480 tie or beat the GTX 1060 at 1440p. and even more so at 4k if people want multi-card setups.
 
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