Nvidia unveils the $2,999 Titan V desktop graphics card, "the most powerful PC GPU ever...

[CaptainTom]

It’s finally happened. I can no longer afford a new graphics card, memory or CPU. Tilt...Game over.

That is why I have recently vowed to stay a generation behind. I picked up a 980 Ti on e-bay last month for $335. When consumer Volta's come out, 1080 Tis will be similarly priced. I just could not justify a starting price of $750 for a 1080 Ti when it was roughly only 10-percent faster even though it consumes about 2x the power.

Damn.. thats incredible. Looks green is way way ahead.

Certainly by price!

Sorry, I don't buy the hype. If 2999 is suggested retail, I won't be surprised when I see them selling for 4k or more. Only a fool would drop even half that on this over hyped card.

This. The Titan Z costed as much, but was really only marginally better than other cards in the series. IMO, it will be no different with this card. nVidia is only interested in how much they can siphon from their users pockets. I can hear the conversation in their marketing department: We sold Titan Zs at this price, suckers will die to pay $2,999 for Titan Vs (demonic laugh).

Or just get a NEW Vega for $400 lol. You aren't forced to get Nvidia....

 

[Vulcanproject]

This isn't a gaming card. If you think it's too expensive, then you plan to buy it for the wrong reasons.

I think we need to put the brakes on most of the comments here and get them to actually read the article and understand the point of this GPU.

"With Titan V, we are putting Volta into the hands of researchers and scientists all over the world. I can’t wait to see their breakthrough discoveries.”

This isn't so you can finally get 60FPS on PUBG. It's not for your gaming build. It's a version of Volta crammed with special processing cores for computer scientists working in various deep learning/AI fields. It'll be bought by labs and universities.

It's so expensive because it's one of the (if not the current) largest monolithic processors on the planet. Over 800mm squared and 21 billion transistors, many many billions of them used up by dedicated hardware that does nothing for rendering games. Extremely difficult to design and manufacture without errors in the process. It's bleeding edge stuff.

Volta Geforce consumer cards won't come stacked with that specialist hardware and will be much smaller dies = much cheaper. Faster clocks too most likely, so chances are the top end ones will be better for gaming than this.

 

[Kenrick]

A lot of cash strapped clueless gamers in denial over this article

 

[wiyosaya]

This isn't a gaming card. If you think it's too expensive, then you plan to buy it for the wrong reasons.

I think we need to put the brakes on most of the comments here and get them to actually read the article and understand the point of this GPU.

"With Titan V, we are putting Volta into the hands of researchers and scientists all over the world. I can’t wait to see their breakthrough discoveries.”

This isn't so you can finally get 60FPS on PUBG. It's not for your gaming build. It's a version of Volta crammed with special processing cores for computer scientists working in various deep learning/AI fields. It'll be bought by labs and universities.

It's so expensive because it's one of the (if not the current) largest monolithic processors on the planet. Over 800mm squared and 21 billion transistors, many many billions of them used up by dedicated hardware that does nothing for rendering games. Extremely difficult to design and manufacture without errors in the process. It's bleeding edge stuff.

Volta Geforce consumer cards won't come stacked with that specialist hardware and will be much smaller dies = much cheaper. Faster clocks too most likely, so chances are the top end ones will be better for gaming than this.

I read the bolded quote and see marketing spin. Marketing spin, more than anything else, is something that I consider a bane. nVidia has done it before, and will do it again.

This is NOT a coprocessor card like the first Voltas that appeared in the market place. Those cards lacked any monitor outputs. In fact, if you go to the nvidia link for this card https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/titan/titan-v/?nvid=nv-int-tnvptlh-29190 it clearly states "the world's most powerful PC GPU". More marketing spin aimed at clueless users with deep pockets.

If you look at the documentation for the "tensor cores", (more marketing spin as I see it) they are designed simply to accelerate standard matrix math. https://devblogs.nvidia.com/parallelforall/programming-tensor-cores-cuda-9/

Others will get out of their spin what they want. For me, I have had experience with the magical promises of marketing spin on professional products, and in most cases, they do not live up to what the marketing would like everyone to believe.

Titan Z had similar marketing spin, and lots of gamers bought it anyway. I am sure that nVidia will be happy to sell it to anyone willing to pay the price for it.

 

[wiyosaya]

A lot of cash strapped clueless gamers in denial over this article

Agreed! However, there is a difference between cash strapped and insisting on value for money spent.

 

[Vulcanproject]

I read the bolded quote and see marketing spin. Marketing spin, more than anything else, is something that I consider a bane. nVidia has done it before, and will do it again.

This is NOT a coprocessor card like the first Voltas that appeared in the market place. Those cards lacked any monitor outputs. In fact, if you go to the nvidia link for this card https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/titan/titan-v/?nvid=nv-int-tnvptlh-29190 it clearly states "the world's most powerful PC GPU". More marketing spin aimed at clueless users with deep pockets.

If you look at the documentation for the "tensor cores", (more marketing spin as I see it) they are designed simply to accelerate standard matrix math. https://devblogs.nvidia.com/parallelforall/programming-tensor-cores-cuda-9/

Others will get out of their spin what they want. For me, I have had experience with the magical promises of marketing spin on professional products, and in most cases, they do not live up to what the marketing would like everyone to believe.

Titan Z had similar marketing spin, and lots of gamers bought it anyway. I am sure that nVidia will be happy to sell it to anyone willing to pay the price for it.

Marketing spin? HUH? It's Nvidia saying who this card is for. https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/nvidia-titan-v-transforms-the-pc-into-ai-supercomputer See the word 'gaming' anywhere in this announcement? No? Me neither.

It says 'PC GPU' because that is what it is, to go inside a PC for individual researcher use, not like Tesla lacking the monitor output since it is a server/data centre product. "TITAN V’s incredible power is ideal for developers who want to use their PCs to do work in AI, deep learning and high performance computing."

If you want to buy it to game then sure go ahead, nobody is stopping you. But they clearly aren't calling it a gaming card or marketing it as one like the Titan Z you are comparing it to incorrectly. Some strange ol replies in here....

 

[Evernessince]

I would have thought going from 16nm to 12nm FinFet would have yield better clock speeds...

2.5x the cost for about 25% more performance compared to Titan Xp.
4.3x the cost for about 33% more performance compared to 1080 Ti.
5x the cost for about 67% more performance compared to 1080.

Unless your heavily utilizing the AI compute features, this thing doesn't seem that great. I know it's not really the consumer version, but neither is the Titan Xp.

Except it's 3 times the price for 9 times the performance.... at least, according to Nvidia...

And this is NOT a consumer card - despite it technically being available to consumers... What is exciting is that when the 1180Ti comes out, or whatever Nvidia calls their high-end Volta gaming card down the road, we're going to see some pretty awesome performance. Don't suppose Nvidia will be sending these to anyone for benchmarking any time soon?

Given the core count, Gaming performance should see around a 40% uplift. Looking at the white paper, many of the features are not targeted at gaming so I don't expect much if any performance increases from new tech.

Given this information, the 1170 should be as powerful at Vega 64, which is pretty funny. It will probably use 1/3 the energy as well. AMD should have Vega 20 out by then but I'm not really expecting much from that. Nvidia will have an even more dominant position in the GPU market in 2018 and I expect AMD to drop to around 22% marketshare.

 

[sac39507]

If only I had bought 1 bitcoin for $10,000 last week

 

[Potato Judge]

I'll probably be able to afford this 10 yrs after release.

 

[MaikuTech]

Except it's 3 times the price for 9 times the performance.... at least, according to Nvidia...

And this is NOT a consumer card - despite it technically being available to consumers... What is exciting is that when the 1180Ti comes out, or whatever Nvidia calls their high-end Volta gaming card down the road, we're going to see some pretty awesome performance. Don't suppose Nvidia will be sending these to anyone for benchmarking any time soon?

Don't you worry princess there be will some tech hardware ***** out there that will buy it just to say they have the best.
Less than 2 years later it will be yester years old junk and something else will out perform it.

 

[mrjgriffin]

Anyone else disappointed in the core/memory clock speeds?

 

[Vulcanproject]

Anyone else disappointed in the core/memory clock speeds?

Difficult to hit high clocks when you have 21 billion transistors to switch without melting them. It's pretty impressive they managed to hit 1455MHz boost as it is.

The next gen Volta Geforce gaming GPUs won't be as large as this we can be assured of that, once all the Tensor cores and such like are stripped out. However we could make a dangerous assumption that the fastest ones will probably end up with a similar CUDA count.

So being smaller there is a good chance they will hit higher clocks. Even if they have 40 SMMs and disable 2 for yields you end up with 4,864 CUDA cores. Now chuck in slightly better clocks than this, a few minor architecture refinements and GDDR6 memory you would end up with a graphics card at least 40 percent faster than a GTX1080ti. Not too shabby.

 

[wiyosaya]

I read the bolded quote and see marketing spin. Marketing spin, more than anything else, is something that I consider a bane. nVidia has done it before, and will do it again.

This is NOT a coprocessor card like the first Voltas that appeared in the market place. Those cards lacked any monitor outputs. In fact, if you go to the nvidia link for this card https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/titan/titan-v/?nvid=nv-int-tnvptlh-29190 it clearly states "the world's most powerful PC GPU". More marketing spin aimed at clueless users with deep pockets.

If you look at the documentation for the "tensor cores", (more marketing spin as I see it) they are designed simply to accelerate standard matrix math. https://devblogs.nvidia.com/parallelforall/programming-tensor-cores-cuda-9/

Others will get out of their spin what they want. For me, I have had experience with the magical promises of marketing spin on professional products, and in most cases, they do not live up to what the marketing would like everyone to believe.

Titan Z had similar marketing spin, and lots of gamers bought it anyway. I am sure that nVidia will be happy to sell it to anyone willing to pay the price for it.

Marketing spin? HUH? It's Nvidia saying who this card is for. https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/nvidia-titan-v-transforms-the-pc-into-ai-supercomputer See the word 'gaming' anywhere in this announcement? No? Me neither.

It says 'PC GPU' because that is what it is, to go inside a PC for individual researcher use, not like Tesla lacking the monitor output since it is a server/data centre product. "TITAN V’s incredible power is ideal for developers who want to use their PCs to do work in AI, deep learning and high performance computing."

If you want to buy it to game then sure go ahead, nobody is stopping you. But they clearly aren't calling it a gaming card or marketing it as one like the Titan Z you are comparing it to incorrectly. Some strange ol replies in here....

Perhaps in 20 or so years, you will come to understand what marketing spin is. Until then, you are welcome to consider my replies a charitable contribution to your education.

 

[thewind]

110 teraflops is what the article AND video says! But the chart only says 15. If it really is 110 TFLOPS then it's 12.22x the speed while being only 5x the cost of the 1080 and definitely worth the price for those who can afford it I mean that's only $250/month for a year (really not to bad if its that fast). There are a lot of ways to make an extra $250/month for those who really would want to buy it.

 

[Squid Surprise]

110 teraflops is what the article AND video says! But the chart only says 15. If it really is 110 TFLOPS then it's 12.22x the speed while being only 5x the cost of the 1080 and definitely worth the price for those who can afford it I mean that's only $250/month for a year (really not to bad if its that fast). There are a lot of ways to make an extra $250/month for those who really would want to buy it.

You really had to make 3 identical posts to reply to 3 different messages?

 

[andy06shake]

Unless that Gold coloured shroud is made of actual Gold, ile stick with my GTX1070 until 4K monitors/TVs that can accommodate this beast become affordable and/or mainstream.

So about 2-4 years, and by then you will be able to pick one of these up for less than $500 down to tech progress and depreciation.

 

[MaikuTech]

Anyone else disappointed in the core/memory clock speeds?

Heh I'm surprised you noticed that too, I was looking at it and comparing it to some other recent gtx cards.
Nvidia's new 3000 dollar video card won't hold it for very long.
I like to see someone from techspot grab it, benchmark it and review it.

 

[MaikuTech]

Unless that Gold coloured shroud is made of actual Gold, ile stick with my GTX1070 until 4K monitors/TVs that can accommodate this beast become affordable and/or mainstream.

So about 2-4 years, and by then you will be able to pick one of these up for less than $500 down to tech progress and depreciation.

I have a feeling it is, especially if they are trying to sell it internationally, delhi india people will buy it if it is real gold.

 

[CaptainTom]

Marketing spin? HUH? It's Nvidia saying who this card is for. https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/nvidia-titan-v-transforms-the-pc-into-ai-supercomputer See the word 'gaming' anywhere in this announcement? No? Me neither.

It says 'PC GPU' because that is what it is, to go inside a PC for individual researcher use, not like Tesla lacking the monitor output since it is a server/data centre product. "TITAN V’s incredible power is ideal for developers who want to use their PCs to do work in AI, deep learning and high performance computing."

If you want to buy it to game then sure go ahead, nobody is stopping you. But they clearly aren't calling it a gaming card or marketing it as one like the Titan Z you are comparing it to incorrectly. Some strange ol replies in here....

Alright buddy but at least admit that Nvidia's "Titan Marketing" over the years has been ridiculously inconsistent:

1) OG Titan = $1000 for something only 35% stronger than the $400 7970 GHz, over time it lost it's lead too lol. But at least it was good in professional applications.
2) Titan Xm = $1000 for something only 35% stronger than the $500 980. Terrible at most professional apps, and replaced by the 1070 lol.
3) Titan XP and Xp, $1200, and it's only 30% stronger than the 1080 as usual. Terrible at professional apps compared to other options.

Now Volta is out and (predictably) very good at compute and non-gaming uses. This outcome was predictable due to how HORRIBLE Paxwell is at most things non-gaming. In fact this is the first Titan without "Geforce' in giant letters on the side haha.

People should be forgiven for thinking this IS for gaming. More Titan's than not have been gaming cards.

 

[Squid Surprise]

2) Titan Xm = $1000 for something only 35% stronger than the $500 980. Terrible at most professional apps, and replaced by the 1070 lol.
3) Titan XP and Xp, $1200, and it's only 30% stronger than the 1080 as usual. Terrible at professional apps compared to other options.

"Terrible" at most professional apps? Really? I'm running Titan Xm - runs photoshop, video editing, etc quite nicely... What's your definition of "terrible"?

 

[CaptainTom]

"Terrible" at most professional apps? Really? I'm running Titan Xm - runs photoshop, video editing, etc quite nicely... What's your definition of "terrible"?

It was hard to find reviews for professional apps lol, clearly Nvidia told reviewers to not look at them this time around. But there's this:

https://www.anandtech.com/show/9059/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-x-review/15

Outside a couple of specific apps, it's awful compared to Radeon cards that cost half as much. That's been the case for many Titan cards.

 

[Squid Surprise]

It was hard to find reviews for professional apps lol, clearly Nvidia told reviewers to not look at them this time around. But there's this:

https://www.anandtech.com/show/9059/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-x-review/15

Outside a couple of specific apps, it's awful compared to Radeon cards that cost half as much. That's been the case for many Titan cards.

This isn't "professional" - this is "compute".... That's not what Titans are for - for that, you buy a Quadro....