PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds developer calls out Epic Games over Fortnite Battle Royale...

By Shawn Knight ยท 17 replies
Sep 22, 2017
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  1. Epic Games earlier this month shared details regarding a new PvP mode for Fortnite. In its announcement, Epic said it loves battle royale games like PlayerUnknown’s Battlegrounds (PUBG) and H1Z1 and thought Fortnite would make a great foundation for their own version.

    Apparently, the news didn’t sit well with PUBG developer Bluehole.

    Chang Han Kim, vice president and executive producer with Bluehole, said in a press release e-mailed to multiple publications on Friday that they have had an ongoing relationship with Epic Games throughout PUBG’s development as they are the creators of Unreal Engine 4, the game engine they licensed for the title.

    Kim added that after listening to the growing feedback from the community and reviewing gameplay for themselves, they are concerned that Fortnite may be replicating the experience for which PUBG is known.

    Bluehole also noticed that Epic Games references PUBG in the promotion of Fortnite and in communications with the press. This was never discussed with them, Kim said, and they don’t feel that it’s right.

    Kim concluded by saying that the PUBG community has and continues to provide evidence of the many similarities as they contemplate further action.

    Epic Games provided a simple “no comment” when pinged by Forbes.

    What are your thoughts on the matter? Does Bluehole have a valid argument or a legal leg to stand on? Can the developer even be mad that someone else is making a game based on the same genre? I mean, that was inevitable, right?

    Fortnite Battle Royal is coming to PlayStation 4, Xbox One, PC and Mac as a free update on September 26.

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  2. Reehahs

    Reehahs TS Guru Posts: 641   +371

    If the new game is differentiated enough then that is fine but if it is a re-skin then they are right to sue.
  3. Sarcasm

    Sarcasm TS Guru Posts: 375   +46

    Is anybody really that surprised given the success of PUBG that other developers will want to make the same type of game? Bluehole better have their lawyers ready for the influx of PUBG replicas, not just with Epic Games.
    psycros likes this.
  4. Misagt

    Misagt TS Addict Posts: 198   +131

    I've been playing fortnite and I have played PUBG but honestly they are very very different. It would be like comparing Arma 3 and Team fortress 2. Yes they both have guns and a last man standing but that is where the similarities end. Fortnite is a game that brought it's building and trap mechanics to the game so every wall can be damaged and destroyed. Trees, cars and rocks are sources of materials. In PUBG you have all sorts of body positions like crouching and proning. PUGB has vehicles also which makes a big difference.

    I thought from the moment Fortnite came out they would do some sort of PVP and with Battle royale being so popular right now I'm not surprised they did this. But as for complaining about it come on, you don't have a copy write on a type of game. PUGB didn't invite last man standing, large maps, number of players in a match or placing guns on the map. If I was Bluehole, I would be more worried about rampant cheating and buggy weapons instead of trying to sue competition.
    Last edited: Sep 22, 2017
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  5. Puiu

    Puiu TS Evangelist Posts: 2,972   +1,397

    PUBG didn't invent the battle royale genre and even it's game mechanics aren't original as they mostly copied others.
    The irony is strong with this young padawan.
    bolski, Misagt, psycros and 4 others like this.
  6. Shear

    Shear TS Rookie

    I think it's more to do with the fact that it's copied down to the UI elements. Just take a look they are identical.
    They need to change the UI and it will be fine.
  7. Milkyjoe

    Milkyjoe TS Enthusiast Posts: 27   +11

    Battle royale amongst game developers, who will be the last one standing.
  8. Uncle Al

    Uncle Al TS Evangelist Posts: 4,105   +2,597

    No single player version - No Sale!
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  9. seefizzle

    seefizzle TS Evangelist Posts: 377   +251

    Much ado about nothing. Games copy other game's gameplay modes and have been doing so for 30 years. Fortnite and PUBG are two completely different kinds of games. PUBG sounds like a whiny btch about it.
    psycros, JaredTheDragon and tomkaten like this.
  10. tomkaten

    tomkaten TS Maniac Posts: 232   +152

    ^^This ! I remember playing Dune II all those years ago and then Blizzard putting out Warcraft... My first thought was "Man, these Blizzard guys copied Westwood down to the font they used, I feel a lawsuit coming".
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  11. Cycloid Torus

    Cycloid Torus Stone age computing. Posts: 3,491   +914

    Superior game will sell more copies; superior legal redress will not.
  12. Brock Kane

    Brock Kane TS Maniac Posts: 226   +127

    I play PUBG a lot. Have over 200 hours. Just watching the trailer to Fortnite Battle Royale. I see the similarities. But it's not the same game. I get it, but this game has a cartoonish skin to it. Kinda more childish version to me I guess.

    I believe with PUBG's popularity, there will be other similar games developed. Can't go around suing by suspicion. There are a lot of Automobiles similar by different companies. Just because they all have 4 wheels, doesn't mean they're the same.
  13. Eric Mozzone

    Eric Mozzone TS Enthusiast Posts: 27   +19

    Lets not forget that PUBG was a stolen idea from other games. Hypocrites.
  14. Sarcasm

    Sarcasm TS Guru Posts: 375   +46

    You're making my point. I'm saying Bluehole doesn't have much ground on this one. Thanks?
    Puiu likes this.
  15. Nobina

    Nobina TS Evangelist Posts: 1,502   +972

    Not stolen. If an action movie comes out you're not gonna say that movie stole ideas from Terminator. It is just the same genre.
  16. stewi0001

    stewi0001 TS Evangelist Posts: 1,888   +1,274

    Blizzard has gotten away with Overwatch being a successful knock off of TF2 so I guess there is no problem here.
  17. KIPtheLIP

    KIPtheLIP TS Rookie

    Hahahah, ok now we need a lawsuit on all games for stealing team death match
    bolski likes this.
  18. bolski

    bolski TS Booster Posts: 64   +74

    Isn't that the most sincere form of flattery? They should be happy. Plus, who has a copyright on UI layouts? I can say the PUBG and Fornite UIs are copies of older Deathmatch games. last man standing is NOT that new of a concept. It's been done in different modes over multiple games.

    I say, more choices, better options for everyone. Some like PUBG, others like Fortnite. So what? More power to the gaming community I say.

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