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[Squid Surprise]

How exactly does it “break down society”??

Why is sex such a terrible thing?

The reason why people are “ashamed” of the porn they watch is because of society saying it’s bad! But WHY is it bad?

Watching CONSENSUAL sex (anything that isn’t consensual SHOULD be banned - no argument there) isn’t a problem - provided people are educated about sex beforehand!

Virtually everyone on the internet watches porn - are they all bad people?

 

[ZedRM]

Why is sex such a terrible thing?

It's not. No one is saying it is.

The reason why people are “ashamed” of the porn they watch is because of society saying it’s bad! But WHY is it bad?

Anyone "ashamed" of watching porn is likely watching things they shouldn't. If you're not ashamed, then age-gating and proving up should be of no concern to you.

Watching CONSENSUAL sex (anything that isn’t consensual SHOULD be banned - no argument there) isn’t a problem - provided people are educated about sex beforehand!

You're missing the point. We're not talking about consent.

Virtually everyone on the internet watches porn

You are making an assumption based on either flawed information or a myth. Not everyone watches porn. The real numbers are about half. But that half makes up for all the rest and then some.

are they all bad people?

We're not talking about that kind of definition.

Your lack of understanding, education and knowledge is self-evident. You are exactly the kind of person the porn industry preys upon. Your arguments are the same kind of thing people were saying back in the 1970's, 1980's and early 1990's when the tobacco debate was raging. Science prevailed then and it will again in time prevail on this subject as well.

 

[Ohnooze]

How exactly does it “break down society”??

Why is sex such a terrible thing?

The reason why people are “ashamed” of the porn they watch is because of society saying it’s bad! But WHY is it bad?

Watching CONSENSUAL sex (anything that isn’t consensual SHOULD be banned - no argument there) isn’t a problem - provided people are educated about sex beforehand!

Virtually everyone on the internet watches porn - are they all bad people?

No they are not all bad people. Of course not. Sex is not bad thing even to the religious people you speak of. I don't want to get off on a religious tangent but you seem to indicate that people of faith think that sex is bad and that's just not true.
Anyway, we have gone on for pages now about the problems from porn and I don't need you to agree with me.

 

[Squid Surprise]

It's not. No one is saying it is.

Actually, yes they are... society seems to think it's a bad thing for people to know about sex before puberty... I ask - WHY?

If you were educated about sex BEFORE you got interested in it, you'd be able to handle your urges a lot easier.

Anyone "ashamed" of watching porn is likely watch things they shouldn't. If you're not ashamed, then age-gating and proving up should be of no concern to you.

No, that's a myth. Most "western" religions believe that sex is sinful in nature (looking at you, Puritans) and refuse to allow people to even think about it without being branded "sinners".

Look at our movie ratings: You can have bombs, missiles, etc, bombard a city killing thousands (or more) and the movie will be rated, at most, PG... but show a nipple and it's immediately rated R... god forbid you show sexual intercourse and it's X-Rated.

Sex is deep-rooted as "bad" in our society... notice what most of our "swear words" are? If it isn't excrement, they are all sexual... ask yourself why?

You're missing the point. We're not talking about consent.

I only bring that up to differentiate between porn... there are numerous varieties... and I am talking about porn that is consensual... there shouldn't be anything wrong with viewing that - again, provided the viewer has been EDUCATED beforehand... this is where parenting comes in

You are making an assumption based on either flawed information or a myth. Not everyone watches porn. The real numbers are about half. But that half makes up for all the rest and then some.

OK... exaggerated a bit... maybe not EVERYONE... but even if it's half (I argue it's far more)... are you saying that half our population is bad?!?!

We're not talking about that kind of definition.

Your lack of understanding, education and knowledge is self-evident. You are exactly the kind of person the porn industry preys upon. Your arguments are the same kind of thing people were saying back in the 1970's, 1980's and early 1990's when the tobacco debate was raging. Science prevailed then and it will again in time prevail on this subject as well.

Tobacco is a completely different thing. The science proves that it is PHYSICALLY harmful. No one can argue with actual physical facts (well, maybe some Trump supporters, but we won't go there).

Show me 100% incontrovertible proof that porn is harmful to people - you won't find any unbiased papers that prove any such thing. The closest we have are suspicions that it might be detrimental to some people predisposed to bad behaviour.

SCIENCE, on the other hand, will clearly state that all gun deaths are caused by guns.... and the more there are, the more deaths there will be... maybe focus on that?

 

[ZedRM]

No, that's a myth. Most "western" religions believe that sex is sinful in nature (looking at you, Puritans) and refuse to allow people to even think about it without being branded "sinners".

I'm going to take seriously the conclusions of academic studies well before I take the word of someone making comments like the one above.

Tobacco is a completely different thing.

No it isn't different. From a addiction point of view, they are exactly the same.

SCIENCE, on the other hand, will clearly state that all gun deaths are caused by guns.... and the more there are, the more deaths there will be... maybe focus on that?

This article and discussion are NOT about guns. Quit trying, and failing, to sidestep the issue. Stay on topic.

 

[Squid Surprise]

I'm going to take seriously the conclusions of academic studies well before I take the word of someone making comments like the one above.


No it isn't different. From a addiction point of view, they are exactly the same.


This article and discussion are NOT about guns. Quit trying, and failing, to sidestep the issue. Stay on topic.

Show me those studies that show that tobacco is the same as sex in harmfulness….

 

[amghwk]

Your lack of understanding, education and knowledge is self-evident. You are exactly the kind of person the porn industry preys upon.

Spot on. I couldn't have said it better.

 

[Puiu]

I'm the same way. I have one that was given to me by my father but I have never even fired it and don't care to, to be honest.

Exactly. I do believe in limits on what someone can have but I'm no fan of removing people's option to protect themselves. Criminals will get their weapons either way.

Regulating high risk weapons that are not for defence is not a bad thing at all. At least increase how difficult it is to get them with proper checks, education and other measures that are normal outside of the US.

 

[erickmendes]

 

[Ohnooze]

Regulating high risk weapons that are not for defence is not a bad thing at all. At least increase how difficult it is to get them with proper checks, education and other measures that are normal outside of the US.

That's why I said "I do believe in limits on what someone can have". I personally do not see why anyone should have an AR. On the other hand I also understand the slippery slope of liberals trying to take everyone's weapons as well.

 

[ZedRM]

Show me those studies that show that tobacco is the same as sex in harmfulness….

Google "Porn addiction study results". You will find what you are looking for IF you actually want to know more and are not making your above statement as a diffusion attempt.

 

[Squid Surprise]

Google "Porn addiction study results". You will find what you are looking for IF you actually want to know more and are not making your above statement as a diffusion attempt.

Addiction is very different from harmful... coffee is addictive...
Also, none of the studies have any definitive results - except for the ones funded by the religious right wing (see nutcases) --> frontiersin doesn't count as an academic source - just a bunch of religious nuts.

There is ZERO evidence for porn actually being HARMFUL to people - it is generally a symptom of some other disorder... much like people trying to blame video games for psychotic murderers - just because a murderer plays video games DOESN'T mean that it's the video games fault that a person got murdered!

Again - find some actual evidence and post some links here - I'd be glad to read them

 

[scavengerspc]

There is ZERO evidence for porn actually being HARMFUL to people

In fact, I am one of the people that believe porn can allow a fantasy release.
It could be interesting, at the least, to see what happens over time if that release is taken away.

But on the other hand, I have read that so few sites are actually blocking their content that it probably just involves nothing more than making new bookmarks.

 

[ZedRM]

Addiction is very different from harmful... coffee is addictive...

Coffee isn't going to screw with your head, pun intended.

Again - find some actual evidence and post some links here - I'd be glad to read them

I'm not your lackey, go do it yourself, there's plenty of it to be EASILY found. Or you can prove that you're afraid of reality and want to continue living in ignorance. I don't care, don't think anyone else does either.

 

[Squid Surprise]

Coffee isn't going to screw with your head, pun intended.

I'm not your lackey, go do it yourself, there's plenty of it to be EASILY found. Or you can prove that you're afraid of reality and want to continue living in ignorance. I don't care, don't think anyone else does either.

I looked for REAL evidence - there ISN'T any - if there is, it's certainly NOT easy to find! That's why I asked yo to post some... again, a report saying it MIGHT reinforce previously existing tendencies DOES NOT count. Nor does anything posted by Frontiersin - or any other religious organization.

If you can find an actual scientific study that proves that porn is HARMFUL - I'm all ears.

 

[ZedRM]

Nor does anything posted by Frontiersin - or any other religious organization.

Oh please with that. Only YOU are spouting anything about religion. No one else cares. We're focusing on the subject, not your sad attempts to distract.

If you can find an actual scientific study that proves that porn is HARMFUL - I'm all ears.

Let's listen for the echo of what was said above..

I'm not your lackey, go do it yourself, there's plenty of it to be EASILY found. Or you can prove that you're afraid of reality and want to continue living in ignorance. I don't care, don't think anyone else does either.

Yes sir, that's what was said.