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Private email conversations are impossible, says secure email provider

By Scorpus ¬∑ 14 replies
Aug 19, 2013
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  1. Louis Kowolowski, technical operations manager at the recently closed secure email provider Silent Circle, has stated that the days of private email conversations "are long over", explaning on Friday why the service had to shut down. According to Kowolowski, it's simply...

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  2. Lurker101

    Lurker101 TS Evangelist Posts: 798   +318

    I can't be the only one who instantly thinks "well develop new protocols, then". If it means you have to develop new client software instead of having it browser accessible, go ahead. There will be a big enough market in this climate to make it financially viable.
    Darth Shiv and cliffordcooley like this.
  3. Whoooooooo CARES!!??!?!

    If you dont want the Government to monitor your emails, DONT EMAIL STUFF YOU SHOULDNT BE!!!!

    If you are doing something illegal, You Deserve To Be Caught!
  4. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,169   +3,261

    And everyone deserves to pay higher taxes, so that a large department of people can monitor everything everyone does. Meanwhile hardly anyone gets caught, especially the ones that are causing the most harm. Sheesh give me a break with the BS.
    hammer2085 likes this.
  5. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 10,432   +801

    The assumption that's necessary to "keep compatibility with existing protocols" is the problem.
    Keeping compat does allow the meta-data problem discussed in the article. Tossing compat and we would get a better, faster, secure and more private email system. The email client solution would not be so difficult, but adoption by the Internet and rollout time/costs would be excessive. IMO, the web-based email access would be fare more difficult as the server side changes would be more complicated than the client side.

    Now you know WHY there has not been a new email protocol favoring security.
  6. davislane1

    davislane1 Inquisitor Posts: 4,493   +3,490

    I've always found it hilariously ironic that people who feel the right to privacy is little more than trivial frequently publish their view under 'Guest'.
  7. Well... meteors are coming our way anyways so ...
  8. MilwaukeeMike

    MilwaukeeMike TS Evangelist Posts: 2,837   +1,180

    So create an email address called YahooDailyDeals12561@yahoo.com and make your subject line 'New Items on Sale!!!' then send it from some free wifi or public library PC. If you're that serious about privacy then take some extra precaution.
  9. Mortalife

    Mortalife TS Rookie

    Why doesn't somebody create a messaging system that works the same way that Bitcoin does? Sure it will still have some issues but as far as my knowledge of bitcoin goes, it could work pretty well..
  10. amstech

    amstech IT Overlord Posts: 1,710   +869

    If its online, its accessible.
  11. Logic Overflow

    Logic Overflow TS Rookie

    I have to agree with this statement. If you want to keep things private, keep it off the internet. If you want to keep items 100% private on your computer, throw a whole disk encryption on there and never connect it to the internet... you can even go as far as removing the LAN port and Wireless chipset.
  12. The idea is to minimize what the government can monitor. The fact that we even need to do this is ridiculous. We're suppose to have a right to privacy. Bogus loopholes, and then the people who mindlessly support anything our government does. "It's for our protection" ... No.

    "Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserver, either one."
    -- Benjamin Franklin
  13. Darth Shiv

    Darth Shiv TS Evangelist Posts: 1,762   +435

    Yes agreed. It is not rocket surgery.
  14. Darth Shiv

    Darth Shiv TS Evangelist Posts: 1,762   +435

    Accessible doesn't mean readable though.
  15. "Accessible doesn't mean readable though."

    Well maybe if we lived in a world where the internet was simple and reading the contents of an email was the only issue... maybe. Also, anything is readable if it's readable in the first place. Any algorithm we use today can be hacked. ANY ALGORITHM. Maybe not practically, but that maybe DOES go both ways.

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