wiyosaya
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Yes. I agree. Even though they are using a more environmentally friendly battery tech, when Solid-state batteries hit the market, everything that does not use one will drop drastically in price.
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wiyosaya
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So you've managed to change the laws of physics and drive your ICE vehicle to the gas station on an empty tank of gas?
You should win a Nobel Prize!!!!
Squid Surprise
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Hehehe - you’ve never run out of gas before?So you've managed to change the laws of physics and drive your ICE vehicle to the gas station on an empty tank of gas?
You should win a Nobel Prize!!!!
Squid Surprise
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Maybe not in the US… but I live in Canada… and once you leave the big cities, charging stations are NOT everywhere…
Squid Surprise
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Why do I have to accept the delay? I have a better idea… I’ll keep my ICE car and wait until EV tech improves to the point where I can charge it to full at the same speed…
If this comes to reality eventually. Your choice indeed.
Squid Surprise
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Gas prices affect all cars - even EVs… you do realize the electricity that goes into your EV doesn’t come from nothing, right?
Electric cars will only become the future if they “fix” their charging and range issues - which I think they will.
They’ve already come a long way and are fine for the majority of people out there… just not for me - yet.
yRaz
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No, they're only in places where there are interesting things to see and do. IE, they places people are likely to go anyway. Apple car play and Android Auto also work with your car to find charging stops along the way. If there aren't any stations for 150 miles while they're usually every 20 or 30 miles, well you better top up at that one. The whole reason I'm really excited for the slate trucks is that we got a Honda ZDX as a rental last year and basically everything I was afraid of was either not an issue or had some software solution to plan our trips.
Something that I will stand firmly on is that EV range needs to be above 300 miles. The entire reason we decided to keep our 2015 Honda Odyssey instead of getting the ID Buzz was that we take it camping and while 230miles is doable for what we like it doesn't leave a lot of room for error or a change in plans.
I also plan on buying the slate as more of a toy first truck second type thing than an actual daily driver. I do say this as someone who works in commercial construction, the slate is perfect for just about any home project you might have and for trips back and fourth to supply yards or home depot/Lowe's. And if I need 2 tons of gravel or sand for something I just have that delivered because I'm not unloading that much material off a truck by hand.
Squid Surprise
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Well, that's not good enough for me - since I often plan road trips to out-of-the-way places... and while I love Carplay, you don't always have internet out there either... and I don't want to be held hostage to the "better top up" when I don't want to...
I agree there - but I figure they will... eventually...
I figure once I retire my wife will swap her car for an EV... and we'll keep mine for road trips... hopefully by then EVs will be even better
wiyosaya
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I ran out of gas maybe 30 or 40 years ago, but since then, I made it a point to ensure I had enough gas in my tank. Its not that hard, hehehehe.
How often do you run out of gas? hehehehe
Now, I keep my Prius Prime charged and watch the battery level to ensure I have enough charge. That's not that hard either. Doing so has allowed me to go in excess of 1,200 miles on maybe 3 or 4 gallons of gas.
yRaz
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I suppose that's fair, I don't know your specific needs but I would recommend mend renting one for awhile just to get a some real bearings on what it's like to "live" with one. Long story short, I basically learned that while everything I was worried about were real issues, they are all issues with a solution. And while I would love to have an EV in the future, I am never giving up my 2008 S550.
I'm also not Anti gas cars, either, just that the pros out weighted the cons. I do want a 911 Targa as a dream car but I haven't quite convinced the wife yet. That said, I really do want to add an EV to what's turning into my "fleet" and I am on the list for the Slate but I don't think that's going to happen until late 27/early 28. I'm starting to think she's letting get the Slate thinking it will take my mind off the 911 and letting me believe that I convinced her that the slate was a good idea for the house.
yRaz
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I just want you to know that I'm 100% on your side of owning an EV, but you are likely to damage your car by letting your gas go bad. We wanted a plugin hybrid for a long time but bad gas damaging injectors and fuel lines is a common issue if you don't cycle your fuel often.
wiyosaya
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Yes, they will. Solid-state batteries are around the next curve.I figure once I retire my wife will swap her car for an EV... and we'll keep mine for road trips... hopefully by then EVs will be even better
wiyosaya
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Thanks for the tip.
The factory recommendation is once a year. I'm more often than that, and I also only use ethanol free gas (when I can get it - I sometimes cannot find it on trips) even though it's more expensive.
EDIT: The car also automatically runs the engine every so often regardless of the battery state of charge - so there's that, too.
It's also a Toyota - not that they are perfect, but they tend to be more attentive to quality and issues like gas going bad, IMO.
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yRaz
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That right there will prevent most of your issues. Most things involving the fuel system use gasoline as a lubricant and the ethanol being hydroscopic will suck moisture out of the air. Further, ethanol is a really powerful solvent and can do untold damage to other things. We've been using ethanol for so long we mostly have engineered those failure points out, but I don't believe we can solve all of them 100% of the way.
The genuinely impressive number is that it's supposedly only 165 pounds heavier than the V8 Range Rover. A 118.5-kWh battery is enormous.
What's the difference between a Harley motorcycle and a Hoover vacuum? On the Hoover the dirtbag rides inside.
The biggest problem with EVs is that they are not for the common people.
What's needed is an inexpensive EV that gets 500+ mile range and lasts for 20 years. Like a base model Toyota Corolla or Honda Civic.
What's needed is an inexpensive EV that gets 500+ mile range and lasts for 20 years. Like a base model Toyota Corolla or Honda Civic.
wiyosaya
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We're getting there. Toyota and Honda are both road testing Solid State Batteries.
yRaz
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The problem is that auto makers don't want to compete with Chinese EVs that DO have 300 miles of range for under 20k. Bring back capitalism and the prices of EVs will start dropping REAL quick
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