Record 24,583 people targeted for pirating The Hurt Locker

[captaincranky]

Sure, individually speaking, every one of them can use the hijacked wifi defense. But statistically speaking, the odds of all these people having their wifi hijacked are minimal. Some percentage of these people had to download the movie.

Well, I don't have WiFi to blame. Just old fashioned wired DSL.. To the upside, this movie just looked too depressing to bother with. So, this is how you turn a lose, lose, into an accidental win, win.

Didn't give a rat's patootie about "The Expendables" either. I guess I just don't know how to have fun.

 

[Guest]

so do i gotta throw out all my dl movies? but they are for evulation purposes

 

[captaincranky]

so do i gotta throw out all my dl movies? but they are for evulation purposes

Wouldn't that be like locking the barn after the horse was stolen?

 

[Trillionsin]

Here in the trailor park I just moved into there are a few unsecured wireless networks floating around. I just connect to whichever one I prefer for the day, or whichever has the strongest signal and just start downloading all the CP and pirating as many movies as I can. ......Okay, for those of you who knew what I mean by that two letter acronym, it's an extreme exageration... however I still download movies... and will do so only more often on other people's wireless networks.

Common, you cant say there arent 1 out of every 5 people using someone else's connetion at some point to download something.

 

[Cota]

captaincranky said:

so do i gotta throw out all my dl movies? but they are for evulation purposes

Wouldn't that be like locking the barn after the horse was stolen?

But what if the horse was retarded? just like most of the movies now days.

 

[captaincranky]

But what if the horse was retarded? just like most of the movies now days.

Well, since we're dealing with metaphor, I'd say, "if the horse was retarded, you shouldn't have had it in your barn in the first place".

 

[Guest]

I'm getting discussed by all the fear tactics our legal system tries to use to supposedly administer justice. especially when the US is suppose to have the most fair practiced legal system in the world.

 

[captaincranky]

I'm getting discussed by all the fear tactics our legal system tries to use to supposedly administer justice. especially when the US is suppose to have the most fair practiced legal system in the world.

I actually think you meant, "I'm getting >> disgusted<<". Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Relic]

darkshadoe said:
This only thing I was trying to "prove" was the fact that downloading copyrighted material is Copyright Infringement, not stealing. There is a difference whether people want to think so or not. This is a civil case, not criminal.

+1, I am so tired of seeing this every time a piracy debate comes up. Illegal downloading is not theft, but copyright infringement. As much as the music & movie industry loves labeling it as theft to scare people, they will likely never legally favor it. If they want to call it theft, prosecute it as such so we can put this extortion nonsense to rest and go to a criminal court.

 

[treetops]

When I got caught by a photo radar camera they sent me a letter in the mail. I through it away. They have to serve me in person and verify my identity before I am accountable. Some people have purposely driven past these cameras wearing gorilla masks. They would go to court being the owner of the vehicle and say prove I was driving. They were found innocent. Because you are innocent until proven guilty.

I'm trailing off here, anyways unless you are dumb enough to fill out the form they send you in the mail or let yourself get served by a subpoena you wont ever have to go to court. The cut off date from the date of the infraction for speeding radar camera tickets is 3 months.

Furthermore they have no way to prove who downloaded the movie. Even though you do not currently have wifi cranky you could easily claim you had a wifi router at the time. But I have a feeling they would be making a mistake dragging you to court. The expendables looked like crap I never downloaded it. Hurt locker was actually a decent movie.

 

[Guest]

The bigger question is why do people feel justified in stealing movies or other digital content? I don’t think they would walk into Best Buy, Target, Walmart, etc and just take a movie and walk out however if they can copy the movie by some means they think that’s OK. Why not just rent the movie (RedBox $1, Netflix – part of subscription) or purchase it ($5 - $14). We are not talking about a lot of money to see the movie. It was a good movie (which I rented) and the makers deserve the money from it.

 

[foreverzero89]

TomSEA said:
Once more for the hard of hearing. Don't steal and you won't get a letter from the US Copyright Group.

piracy is not theft.

 

[gobbybobby]

ownders of Public operated wifi spots such as Pubs, libarys and shopping centers would be in the heat if a member of the public pirated a movie if the law said it was the person who pays the Internet bills responcibility, a good thing. Private internet connections should be a different class, however MY Router is part of ''FON'' which allows subscribers to BT connect to the Internet on my Wifi connection.

All BT routers (the UKs largest ISP) Have FON enebled by default, making BT have the largest ''free Wifi network'' anywhere in the world, becuase you walk down a street, pull out my Smartphone OH look 6 BT homehubs all with FON I can get on the net free. Sweet. Oh look my Smart phone has 16Gig memory card, I will just download this movie while I sit on this bench and listen to music...

30 mins later (lets say its a BT fibre connection) I have pirated the movie using someone elses wifi network.

I DO NOT THINK BT USERS SHOULD TURN FON OFF.

You might say ''OMG thats stupid y don't users turn it off'' Well its a MASSIVE Free WIFI network any BT user can use. making any built up area have a wifi connection thanks to British Telecommunications.

 

[SCJake]

i agree with you, most are stealing, but you apparently have never dabbled into wireless security. you would be surprised how easy it is to hack any wireless internet with the right programs (which i will not divulge for any of you hackers out there). certain free programs can crack a 128bit, 32 character wpa2 key in under a minute. plus, as you are on this site you are forgetting on MAJOR thing.

the united states is getting dumber. ever see idiocracy? its a fact, not just a story. sorry, but if you go into the city, where (wild guess) 80% of the population is, 1 in 5 wireless networks are unsecured, so dont go saying that most people know what they are doing.

the fact is, unless comcast would break their own privacy agreement and go past your modem/router and actually pull your mac address, then trace it back to your pc, they can never prove it was you. even then, it could be someone else on the computer, so there is no real way to prove anything "beyond a reasonable doubt" as the courts must.

 

[Guest]

I actually have to disagree with you. WEP can be hacked within 2 min. WPA/WPA2 can be hacked as well. Not nearly as fast though. However, I know of plenty of people who hack neighbors wifi to do their downloading. In this day an age, you don't have to go far (if at all) to find an easy target to hack.

 

[SCJake]

this is why i would not be divulging the names of any of these programs

 

[Guest]

I live in an apartment complex. Needless to say there are a few open Wi-fi connection at any given time. A few locked but only using wep, and a few more with wpa2. Just how hard is it to hop onto a connection and with throttling remain unnoticed for quite some time, or even indefinitely.

You can see the implications. The US copy write group is more or less carpet bombing targets of opportunity.

The bottom line is the tactics they are using are unethical. An IP address is not a person. The person illegally downloading movies is not ethical, but it happens. People steal internet. It happens. People leave open Wi-Fi connections... IT HAPPENS !

Catch my drift?

Should these people lock down their connections? Absolutely, but they don't...

 

[Guest]

Exactly..Scare Tactics.