RIAA: ISPs to implement anti-piracy measures by July 12

[Tomorrow_Rains]

me my girlfriend my brother mom and dad, watch netflix on a different TV in the house. Everyday. Surely, Comcast will notify me...And surely i will pursue it legally.

 

[Guest]

This will be an affront to freedom of privacy/speech just as surely as if they had monitored my phone calls.

A court must surely strike this as illegal.

 

[Guest]

this news. will just make people think "better do it now while we still can"
you think legit games made ps & ps2 popular?

i bought these two consoles years ago because i know the games
were going to be very cheap.

then when i discovered r4, i bought the DS lite for my kids.
i heard about chick-hen, i bought psp-3000.

somebody do something about vita please. thanks.

 

[9Nails]

Apparently the RIAA make far to much money to the point where they can dictate what files I download.

Suppose I won't buy any music or movies for a while until they realize that value sells better than pressure.

 

[Tygerstrike]

Sorry guys I hate to burst your bubble but its their game. They make the rules. You can and will complain but it wont do any good. Im sure they have some way to spot which ppl are actually pirating vs. ppl who are super users. Its their sandbox, if you want to get online you have to go through them. Oh another thing to think about.
What if your one of those tech savvy ppl and you do all your pirating off your phone....Think they will ban ppl from getting cellphones with internet as well??

 

[mattfrompa]

ikesmasher said:
someone better damn take this to court.
I mean, seriously. First they are trying to take away religious freedom (requiring catholics to serve contraceptives to employees) and this is the next in numerous attempts to invade privacy. So many basic american rights being violated.

Catholics having to pay for something they don't like is not an invasion of religious freedom. Christians are just not getting their way for once so they cry foul. The lack of separation of church and state in the US in appalling and does not represent true religious freedom at all. A better question would be why are tax dollars from gay citizens going to support Churches that oppress them for no VALID reason?

 

[captaincranky]

Catholics having to pay for something they don't like is not an invasion of religious freedom. Christians are just not getting their way for once so they cry foul. The lack of separation of church and state in the US in appalling and does not represent true religious freedom at all. A better question would be why are tax dollars from gay citizens going to support Churches that oppress them for no VALID reason?

The incidence of M/M pedophilia in the Catholic Church gives one pause to wonder why they oppress gays at all.

I always find it entertaining to the individuals who are preaching, "birth control through abstinence", have "given their love to God", but more importantly, are most often are well past the age of reproductive viability. Then there's the whole priest / altar boy thing being an evolutionary dead end. Point being, if nobody else volunteers to serve in the Roman Catholic Church, it will die out on its own.

All of that notwithstanding, everybody seems to have invited the internet into their home so they could have a, "window to the world", but now they're mad because the RIAA is going to "close the drapes" from the outside, so to speak.

Well, having a window to the world, is not necessarily an invitation to plunder it.

The same thing I said about the church, could attach itself to the RIAA. Just stop buying and stealing music, and it will die out.

So mostly, you bring this on yourselves by having to be the first to walk in to the latest 3D movie, have the latest music, and the latest video games. (Games and music should be free, of course ).

"He who has no addictions has nothing to fear, and no master". Get over yourselves!

Well, having a window to the world, is not necessarily an invitation to plunder it.

 

[Tygerstrike]

@Capt
You are a wise person but you might as well give up. You are preaching Honesty and Virtue. Two things your standard pirate has none of. Every single argument you can raise on why NOT to steal will get 50 justifications why they feel they should. The main one about it being illegal and immoral is quickly brushed aside. There is no personal accountability. There is no personal Honor. Till there are punishments metted out to the general public ppl wont stop pirating. To them its a "victimless" crime. In fact most piraters will all pretty much say the same thing. Hey its out there and they aint charging so im downloading it.

 

[captaincranky]

@Capt
You are a wise person but you might as well give up. You are preaching Honesty and Virtue. Two things your standard pirate has none of. Every single argument you can raise on why NOT to steal will get 50 justifications why they feel they should.

Having been a member since 2006, I understand this all too well. The problem resides in the fact I like to hear myself talk at least as much as they do.

At least with my approach, the opposing viewpoint has to justify itself, rather than sitting back with the smug assumption of correctness.

Well that, and you need to take time off from pirating music to type a reply....

 

[Guest]

well i don't see this helping much i download a lot i also have an expensive cable package netflix and lovefilm so they are getting plenty of money off me how much do they really want for such a limited selection of mostly repeats and old films which i have watched god knows how many times already.

most torrent clients have the option to limit bandwidth to a desired amount so maybe will have to slow it down a little or if all else fails back to old school buying copied DVDs and cloning/buying hard drives.

maybe this will stop the spam and bad traffic as in another article on techspot saying only 49% is human traffic...

bottom line improve the quality/price/delivery of tv/films/music and everyone will win.

 

[captaincranky]

bottom line improve the quality/price/delivery of tv/films/music and everyone will win.

There are only a dozen or so plots in all of English literature. There a couple of ways of looking at this; we've done a great deal with what we have, or "B" or we're not as bright as we think we are, and we just keep repeating ourselves.

Much in the same way the children look like their parents, this generation of stories have all been told before.

But you know what, every generation wants that same happy ending, so it's hard to fault the story telling industry for giving it to us.

Anyways, ya gotta admit, at least the FX are way better.

And remember, when DVDs are outlawed, only outlaws will have DVDs.

 

[oldikes]

captaincranky said:

Catholics having to pay for something they don't like is not an invasion of religious freedom. Christians are just not getting their way for once so they cry foul. The lack of separation of church and state in the US in appalling and does not represent true religious freedom at all. A better question would be why are tax dollars from gay citizens going to support Churches that oppress them for no VALID reason?

The incidence of M/M pedophilia in the Catholic Church gives one pause to wonder why they oppress gays at all.

I always find it entertaining to the individuals who are preaching, "birth control through abstinence", have "given their love to God", but more importantly, are most often are well past the age of reproductive viability. Then there's the whole priest / altar boy thing being an evolutionary dead end. Point being, if nobody else volunteers to serve in the Roman Catholic Church, it will die out on its own.

All of that notwithstanding, everybody seems to have invited the internet into their home so they could have a, "window to the world", but now they're mad because the RIAA is going to "close the drapes" from the outside, so to speak.

Well, having a window to the world, is not necessarily an invitation to plunder it.

The same thing I said about the church, could attach itself to the RIAA. Just stop buying and stealing music, and it will die out.

So mostly, you bring this on yourselves by having to be the first to walk in to the latest 3D movie, have the latest music, and the latest video games. (Games and music should be free, of course ).

"He who has no addictions has nothing to fear, and no master". Get over yourselves!

Well, having a window to the world, is not necessarily an invitation to plunder it.

Except that the assumption that more than 3% of catholic priests are pedofiles is completely wrong, most likely much less than that.

 

[treetops]

My old ISp transcend broadband warns u twice then permanently disables your account. By warn I mean they turn off your internet or throttle it down to below dial up speeds until you call them and say what the hell? They don't even look at what your downloading, if you use a bittorrent type download they hit you with stick. It could be some of the free content offered online or even the wow patcher.



isp Your connecting to to many peers!
me how many can i connect to?
isp we dont have a set limit
me is 2 ok?
isp yes you can connect to 2 people
me how about 10?
isp i dont think 10 whould alert us
me um ok what about 50 would that alert you?
isp it depends on what time of day, we do not have a set number do not use any type of bittorrent connection (multiple peer to peer?)
me ok (thinks dbag ok 50 at night 25 during the day)

Spoiler alert
This is going to cost the isp money so they might counter lobby!


p.s. I think stealing is wrong but i dont feel bad for a few reasons, one they over charge the crap out of us, two its like when i was a kid and would record songs off the radio on my cassette tape, three i am not costing them anymore labor or resources, four most importantly cause i wanna lol. A cd in the 90s took like 5 cents to make and they sold em for around 10-20$. If I had a star track replicator and I made a snickers bar from some ingredients I bought at the store I sure wouldn't feel bad about not giving the snickers company any money.

 

[captaincranky]

Except that the assumption that more than 3% of catholic priests are pedofiles is completely wrong, most likely much less than that.

In this day and age, notoriety is all that counts. Does Kim Kardshian really have a nicer a** than so many other women you might find walking down the street. Probably not. So, pedophile priests have achieved the notoriety they have sought to avoid, regardless of their roll call numbers. With that said, what do you make of the other 97% that covered this up?

A pattern of unnatural interest in children seems to be emerging in those that choose to counsel or coach them.

All churches, regardless of religious affiliation or ethnicity, sell an illusion of human value, unparalleled in even the world or women's cosmetics. To paraphrase, go to church, pray, give lots of money, "because you're worth it". I keep repeating myself about this; human hubris begins at, "and on the seventh day, God created man in his own image". Spare me.

As to pedophilia, historically, men and boys have been involved in sexual trysts since the Spartan Army, and probably long before, it just never sold any newspapers until now.

And as much as I like my "democratic freedoms", and am "against communism", I still think the USSR had the right approach to religion, and that was to ban it.

As far as entering the priesthood is concerned, that's one of those glass half, glass full half empty paradigms. You're either, "called to a higher purpose" (glass half full), or you can't deal with living in the real world. And I'm a glass half empty kind of guy!

Now what was it that this thread was about?

 

[Guest]

i have time warner and i pay for a good speed download and upload. but its the major uploading i've notice that they'll purposely shut off my inet. like i could be doing legal uploading but its uploading none-the-less that they shut it down for a good 30 minutes. I've recently "downgraded" and i'm getting the same speed as before for half the cost.... like why?

this whole piracy thing.. is strictly isp companies trying to jump in on some saving gimmick due to the areas they provide in.. something like "lets not advance to quickly" vibe

these isp companies can quadruple their available bandwidth easily in most cities... its f'n fiber optics that are used most of the time....

 

[ramonsterns]

This will do **** all. Most people use the internet at home for high bandwidth use, you take that away and you start losing customers, on top of rising costs due to all the monitoring.

I wish the RIAA would just off themselves sometimes.

 

[DADEO1]

ikesmasher said:
someone better damn take this to court.
I mean, seriously. First they are trying to take away religious freedom (requiring catholics to serve contraceptives to employees) and this is the next in numerous attempts to invade privacy. So many basic american rights being violated.

First of all your only half right. I agree somebody better take this to court. But nobodys taking any of your religious freedoms away. Unless there's a catholic who works for a healthcare insurance company, no catholics are required to serve contraceptives. Catholic women do quite well on their own with their contraceptives.All your basic rights are still inplace, you just need to quit listening to those who tell you otherwise.

 

[DADEO1]

ikesmasher said:

captaincranky said:

Catholics having to pay for something they don't like is not an invasion of religious freedom. Christians are just not getting their way for once so they cry foul. The lack of separation of church and state in the US in appalling and does not represent true religious freedom at all. A better question would be why are tax dollars from gay citizens going to support Churches that oppress them for no VALID reason?

The incidence of M/M pedophilia in the Catholic Church gives one pause to wonder why they oppress gays at all.

I always find it entertaining to the individuals who are preaching, "birth control through abstinence", have "given their love to God", but more importantly, are most often are well past the age of reproductive viability. Then there's the whole priest / altar boy thing being an evolutionary dead end. Point being, if nobody else volunteers to serve in the Roman Catholic Church, it will die out on its own.

All of that notwithstanding, everybody seems to have invited the internet into their home so they could have a, "window to the world", but now they're mad because the RIAA is going to "close the drapes" from the outside, so to speak.

Well, having a window to the world, is not necessarily an invitation to plunder it.

The same thing I said about the church, could attach itself to the RIAA. Just stop buying and stealing music, and it will die out.

So mostly, you bring this on yourselves by having to be the first to walk in to the latest 3D movie, have the latest music, and the latest video games. (Games and music should be free, of course ).

"He who has no addictions has nothing to fear, and no master". Get over yourselves!

Well, having a window to the world, is not necessarily an invitation to plunder it.

Except that the assumption that more than 3% of catholic priests are pedofiles is completely wrong, most likely much less than that.

Good points and pretty well put in words. You might sway some minds. Thank you.

 

[Guest]

So users that actually use the bandwidth they are paying for instead of just browsing the web will be blamed as well?

 

[Tygerstrike]

@Treetops
See thats the problem. You just sat there and justified your stealing. There is a huge difference between downloading a song from the radio and downloading off the net. First and foremost is the fact that radio is FREE to the public. The internet is not. You have to pay to use it.
Second falls back on your argument about cost. Yes it cost the avaerage CD company around .50cents to print a single CD. However the cost wasnt in the printing of a single CD. It was in the Gold Master copy. That took quite a bit more cash. Yes they charge what they will. Its called Captialism. What you basically said is "They make enough money, I dont so I can steal it".
The whole idea about Capitalism falls apart when you think like that. ME ME ME! Your lackluster attempt at justifying theft only goes to show how shallow and selfish you really are. So you cant afford it. Save your cash and go BUY it. If you dont believe in Capitalism then get the hell out. Go live in Russia or some other place that doesnt give you the options Capitalism gives.

 

[Guest]

There are ways to protect your internet privacy. You can prevent ISP's from spying on your traffic by using an encrypted tunnel such as hushtunnel.com.

Most proxies available are SSL based and as such are prone to trusted man in the middle attacks. Hush Tunnel uses SSH and is the easiest way to protect your online privacy, encrypting and anonymizing your internet traffic with a single click.

 

[Guest]

When "300" came out, I watched it online 7 times. I later paid to watch it at the movies because I wanted to enjoy the graphics. When it came out on blu-ray, I bought it (on eBay -- rather pay $10-$20 than $25-30). I burn Netflix dvds that are "okay" or merely enjoyable, but buy blu-ray versions of the movies I rent and thoroughly enjoy. He||, I burned "The Social Network" and still bought the dvd at one of Blockbuster's closing sales. I still buy cds of favorite artists, but download albums of people I wouldn't lose any sleep over.

Point being, when you have a good product or service, people are going to pay for it or at least be more inclined to do so. You can't stop piracy like you can't stop hacking, but they should find a way to use it to their advantage. Rap artists release many free mixtapes between albums. By the time their album drops, there's great anticipation and such a solid foundation that fans actually want to support the artist by paying for the product.

And you have to wonder: With the world in its "cloud" phase today, what difference is there in enjoying something online versus owning a[n] [in]tangible copy of it? Is Grooveshark wrong for offering people an online version of iTunes? Is it wrong to DVR movies on premium channels rather than paying for the dvd? Should Audible not allow users to download the paid copies of their audiobooks for fear that they'll pass them on to others for free (or profit)? If nothing else, at least piracy generates exposure for a product to audiences that otherwise couldn't afford, or wouldn't even care to experience it.

 

[Guest]

Sound like the days of the BBS might be coming back.

 

[Guest]

The government and industry are becoming as the fascist of the 1930's turning everyone into the eyes and ears of the state and seeing everyone as suspects. I do not say these things as some right-wing government is always evil person but as a liberal. When government and industry team up together and become antithetical to the will of the people we have lost our freedom and democracy. We are as a nation heading down a dark road of heavy regulation, heavy penalties, limited freedom and both Democrats and Republicans are to blame and industry is just as guilty if not more so. Anyone who tries to pin this trend on one party or one President is being dishonest we have been on this path for going on 40 years. Somewhere around the 1970's we began to loose our way and began to see freedom diminish. This new decision will basically allow ISP's to do the work of large industry and law enforcement without the need for a warrant. The fourth amendment will effectively be thrown out the window and the first amendment soon will follow. Who needs the RIAA and FBI when the ISPs does their dirty work for them. State sanctioned warrant-less surveillance and censorship is already here America and it will only continue until we the people stand up and say enough!

 

[Klipspringer]

There is an effort going on to where virtually the whole gaming market, for one, is going the way of STEAM.... you know, the outfit that sells games, the outfit that alot of game making companies are going to, to peddle their wares and MAINLY they like Steam's methodology of preventing piracy. Sometime in the not too far off future you won't be able to purchase a game, for instance, (this will probably come to encompass all software in one respect or another. I am Big on games, for the PC mainly as I've yet to validate the spending of so many bucks on an XBox or PS3 or whatever when I have a very capable PC. Anyway, we're ALL going to become a society of entertainment renters !!! Yes Folks !!!! Here's how my first experience with STEAM went.... I purchased a Game (Left 4 Dead 2). and then:

#1. It required a Steam membership and Steam software in order to be able to play the game that I had purchased with my own money.

#2. Virtually, I had no problem, so to speak with the game itself, BUT, if there was a problem with Steam, meaning their end of the internet, I couldn't play the game. I thought this was kinda hosed up, having to wait on something run by somebody else to play the game I bought.

#3. This only has happened to me just a couple times is all, but there are more than just a couple ways this or similar things may occur on the Inet over at Steam, like being told this wasn't my game, (in so many words), or a number or whatever didn't match......

#4. OR, there were just Internet problems (Period)....

#5. But here was the clincher, I had played my game out..... I killed every damn thing I could and I was done with the game !!! SO, to make a long story longer, I wanted to give the game to my son, no way 'Jose !!!! STEAM Said is just couldn't be done cause now my game was associated with my personal account via Steam and they don't mix & match... so, once you buy a game with which you have to have Steam. You've got it baby !!!! Even when I becomes a bright, shiny coaster in a fancy box !!!

Now remember, this is what various people in the Software industry, mainly the gaming moguls right now I guess, want to become the norm. You BUY the game and at someone elses behest you will be allowed to play it. And THEN, you can't even give it away...... The dude I talked to at Steam told me, when I asked what was a plausible way to handle this.... He said... "Just buy another one for your son !!!!!!!"