Ridley Scott says The Last Duel flopped because of millennials and their 'f**king cellphones'

captaincranky

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How can you sit there and blame a single generation for the failure of a movie when we only consist of a fraction of the viewership population? Makes no sense.
You can if that generation is the most likely demographic to be going to the theaters to watch movies.
 

rmcrys

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"Youth" is a bit of a stretch as @Enaks said: some of us are categorized as millennials and already 40 or 41 with most millennials being at least on their mid to late 30s. Sorry but we haven't been the "youth" of the world since the time Britney Spears was a rising star in the late 90s early 2000s.

I am already "outside" those millennials but I have to give him the reason:

- most young people have their noses only on the smartphone + social networks

- they believe more on those *not* trustworthy social networks (or persons on it) than on trustworthy sources (newspapers, known TV stations, etc.)

- just watch the numbers: "dumb" movies like (most) from Marvel (bad physics, bad script, bad... everything). Nevertheless they sell / makes more money than any other movie
 

GamerNerves

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I thought millenials are those who were born sometime after 2000? Anyway, this movie seems semi-legit, but I didn't manage to go watch it in time. Now it's not shown anymore it seems. I'll probably watch it on Bluray one day. If the movie truly is any good, the trailers made it look little too generic. Maybe they had strong marketing volume, but the marketing approach and style were wrong, like it was trying to please two different audiences at the same time, when the director itself hoped that millenials would enjoy it. Of course millenials too like drama and action, like anybody in any age group, but did he expect some teenage girls to come and watch en masse? This wrong approach is likely why the sales are low, they should have made it more "artsy" or heavily action oriented, but the trailer speaks in two different tones. At least I was hesitant due to this. My advice is to aim for a target audience, don't try to please too many, even though I realize the movie itself might be cohesive, I don't know.
 

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Because lazy millennials need to be spoon fed that tired Marvel junk at each meal.

Anything that requires even the minimal amount of brain power will distract them and ruin their pathetic day..
Please tell me this is a bait post... people don't actually believe the "whole millennial generation = bad" stories being peddled by low quality news outlets... do they?
 

captaincranky

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Please tell me this is a bait post... people don't actually believe the "whole millennial generation = bad" stories being peddled by low quality news outlets... do they?
A whole generation of, hyper politically correct snowflakes,, self involved SJWs, what could possible be, or go wrong with that? :rolleyes:

Wait I know, having to listen to nothing but rap music.
 

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You can if that generation is the most likely demographic to be going to the theaters to watch movies.

Oh no... we executed a choice as consumers...how terrible of us.

I've been to see about a dozen films in the cinema this year, and while I was aware of this film, the trailer didn't make me excited to see the film... so I didn't. So... I guess I (a millennial) am responsible for it not making money at the box office? What should I do with this new found power...
 

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A whole generation of, hyper politically correct snowflakes,, self involved SJWs, what could possible be, or go wrong with that? :rolleyes:

Wait I know, having to listen to nothing but rap music.
Yup, that's it. Every kid birthed in a 15 year window has grown up to be exactly the same, and we're definitely all... whatever a "hyper politically correct snowflakes" and "self involved SJW" is.
 

Aceseven

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I saw the trailers for this and it looked interesting but a new movie is released everyday it seems so I forgot about it.
 

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I am already "outside" those millennials but I have to give him the reason:

- most young people have their noses only on the smartphone + social networks

- they believe more on those *not* trustworthy social networks (or persons on it) than on trustworthy sources (newspapers, known TV stations, etc.)

- just watch the numbers: "dumb" movies like (most) from Marvel (bad physics, bad script, bad... everything). Nevertheless they sell / makes more money than any other movie
Do I sense a level of derision in your point about "noses" in smartphone? But for reference, millennials aren't "young people" - the youngest are at least 25, the oldest now in their 40s. Do you just mean "people younger than you"?

Why would the smartphone any less of a valid or trustworthy medium for consuming content than tv/radio/paper media? It's largely the same media outlets pushing the content anyway. They all have editorial biases and none of them shouldn't be "trusted" without understanding their bias and agenda.

Consumers (particularly when it come to entertainment) are allowed to exercise choice. No film has a right to succeed - no matter how "worthy" or "intelligent" it may be considered, and every generation has loved "dumb" escapist fantasy films - if you see the Marvel films as just "dumb" then perhaps you've failed to appreciate what experience consumers are looking for when they choose these sort of film (I.e. comic book heroes, super spies, space adventures).
 

captaincranky

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Yup, that's it. Every kid birthed in a 15 year window has grown up to be exactly the same, and we're definitely all... whatever a "hyper politically correct snowflakes" and "self involved SJW" is.
Well perhaps not all of you., but there's more than enough of you to be extremely annoying.
 

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Well perhaps not all of you., but there's more than enough of you to be extremely annoying.
There are plenty of annoying people in every generation Cpt, and while I enjoy a sweeping generalisation as much as the next person, can we not agree to treat them on their own individual merit? Not sure how an artificial intergeneration divide serves anyone's interests.
 

captaincranky

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Consumers (particularly when it come to entertainment) are allowed to exercise choice. No film has a right to succeed - no matter how "worthy" or "intelligent" it may be considered, and every generation has loved "dumb" escapist fantasy films - if you see the Marvel films as just "dumb" then perhaps you've failed to appreciate what experience consumers are looking for when they choose these sort of film (I.e. comic book heroes, super spies, space adventures).
I grew up in an era when the FX in movies and TV were horrendously bad. They were completely incapable of "suspending disbelief. Fast forward to the original "Star Wars", and ILM really did create "magic", ushering in an entirely different state of FX affairs.

Ok, so the Marvel and DC series are simple morality tales, spawned from teenaged boys onrush of testosterone. But, aren't we really children at heart? And who doesn't like to get lost in a world where "Transformers" could be real, and possess the ability to put "Decepticons" in their place?.

OK, so us boomers used to have film critics on the "boob tube", namely "Siskel & Ebert". I always watched their show, and then went of my way to avoid their 5 star picks like the plague. Those were pretty much a bunch of slow moving, gossipy, bullsh!t.

So yeah, Marvel can take me into any fantastic fantasy world they choose to create, with whatever superheros they conjure up. As long as the good guys win in the end, it's well worth ,the $1.85 it'll cost me to rent the DVD.
 
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captaincranky

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There are plenty of annoying people in every generation Cpt, and while I enjoy a sweeping generalisation as much as the next person, can we not agree to treat them on their own individual merit? Not sure how an artificial intergeneration divide serves anyone's interests.
I have a better idea, how about if I hold on to my belief system, and you hold on to yours. That's what I would define as "democratic".

You know Hollywood is looking more and more like "District One", in the "Hunger Games". American society is becoming more decadent at a faster pace than in any point in our history. How can we help but blame it on our emerging adults, since they're the ones being tasked to create the future for themselves?
(According to Steven Colbert), America's birth rate declined again this year. (So called) Studies were performed, and a great many people answered, "do you want to have children"? Many people answered "no", believing in a bleak future. But others simply answered they didn't want children because they're a nuisance. So, I ask you, how narcissistic have we become, that we feel we're the end product of human evolution, and it doesn't need to continue after us?

Now if you'll excuse me, I want to go watch a couple of men smooching in a TV commercial for some new HIV drug.-
 
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I have a better idea, how about if I hold on to my belief system, and you hold on to yours. That's what I would define as "democratic".

Now if you'll excuse me, I want to go watch a couple of men smooching in a TV commercial for some new HIV drug.-
And I'm off to watch some Brass Eye clips
 

Shaitan

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"is an epic historical drama set in 14th-century France that deals with social issues relevant today."

In other words... another WOKE pile of smoldering DUNG! I'll pass.

Bwhahahaha
GET WOKE GO BROKE.
I don't go to the movies to be lectured by SJW.
I go to the movies to be entertained. Wanna give me a social justice lesson? you'll have to pay ME instead.
 

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We do have a generation of what can only be described as "sociopaths", who will kill one another without thought, guilt, or remorse..
Wait, I thought it was a generation of SJWs and politically correct snowflakes? But they are also somehow grizzled, remorseless killers?
 

captaincranky

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Wait, I thought it was a generation of SJWs and politically correct snowflakes? But they are also somehow grizzled, remorseless killers?
From where I sit, there's just a lot less in the middle.

I should have included the seamier side of the current generation in my original post, but I didn't want to seem to be too long winded. (I can be long winded, so perhaps I'm just having a lazy day. OTOH, we boomers, after all, do tire easily).
 

captaincranky

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Those in the middle tend not to make the news...
Oh yes they do. Like when the high school track star gets herself hooked on oxy and ends up selling herself in "da hood".

Or how about when the good kid of color gets stopped and searched 18 times on his way to school, causing the police to lose "stop and frisk" tactics.
 
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Oh yes they do. Like when the high school track star gets herself hooked on oxy and ends up selling herself in "da hood".

Or how about ehen the good kid of color gets stopped and searched 18 times on his way to school, causing the police to lose "stop and frisk" tactics.
Ok... think you've lost me there.

The point I was making is that the current presentation of news (24/7 cycle, advertisement funded, click-dependent) will give the impression of a tendency to extremes while ignoring the boring majority. They've learnt that Boomers like to hear how Millennials are "just lazy snowflake SJWs" etc, and Millennials like to hear that Boomers are greedily hording all the wealth and property, pulling up the ladder behind them.... and a plethora of other easy to headline tropes. And funnily enough, being bombarded with that is impacting our behaviours, interactions and relationships to the point it feeds our conformation bias.

Now I've got long winded...