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AlaskaGuy

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Lots of colors, I'll say that. I can find a map in seconds. And in the last few hours I heard that what you are leaning on now is not even briefly talked about in Russia. It honestly looks like the claim you made above is all yours.

So again, I said to you:
"I have friends in Rostov-On-Don and Dnipro, and they have not even hinted at that. Do you have a source I can read? If it's a thing, I'd like to catch up."



And about that:
Putin has been hinting towards a land route to the Krim since 2014 while complaining that Ukraine has been shorting the Krim on water. It's obvious to pretty much anyone what is goal is. btw Putin served in East Germany and Kaliningrad formerly East Prussia due to him being fluent in German.
 

scavengerspc

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Putin has been hinting towards a land route to the Krim since 2014
I know. I said that already.
It's obvious to pretty much anyone what is goal is.
Ok, so it's an opinion, which is no problem. It just seems importanat to mention that because nobody I know there has heard that topic for a very long time.
Putin served in East Germany and Kaliningrad formerly East Prussia due to him being fluent in German.
Well, ok then. I'm sure you are quite proud of him.
 

Ludak021

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I agree there's a lot of bullsh!t stories, but the outcome is far from foreseeable. The battle of Kyiv was lost by the Russians, they retreated with heavy losses, their best battleship lies on the bottom of the Black Sea, the battle is raging in Donbas and in the south, but they can't make any significant progress and these facts can't be disputed.

literally nothing you wrote is true. Read CNN and it's not true, that's how much off you are.

edit: here:
1. Russian ship "Moscow" was towed to harbor, one sailor died (this number of deaths might be a lie, it's war, no one except military is privi to real data)
2. Kiev was attacked by missiles, no soldiers. Specific buildings with military in it were hit. No one retreated, that's a "CNN" news from "unnamed sources" (they made it up)
3. ....

you can see where this is going...
Also, no weapons are gifted to Ukraine, it's all debt to Ukraine. No one cares for the people, everyone wants to sell them weapons, even Canada.
It's good for US dollar, it's good money and it prolongs the war, making new weapon sales possible and it weakens Russia (because US thinks that if they spend 40 billion Russia will have to spend that much, which is grossly false due to Russia having ALL the resources and cheaper (and free) workforce in the military and military sector. Russian airplanes are at least 30X cheaper than US planes (just an example) but apply the formula to everything in the military. Also, Russia is next to Ukraine, US is a world away. Russia is destroying those weapon shipments (most of it) when they enter UKR. But don't look for liberal US news to tell you this. Maybe Fox News...maybe.
 
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scavengerspc

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literally nothing you wrote is true. Read CNN and it's not true, that's how much off you are.

edit: here:
1. Russian ship "Moscow" was towed to harbor, one sailor died (this number of deaths might be a lie, it's war, no one except military is privi to real data)
2. Kiev was attacked by missiles, no soldiers. Specific buildings with military in it were hit. No one retreated, that's a "CNN" news from "unnamed sources" (they made it up)
3. ....

you can see where this is going...
Also, no weapons are gifted to Ukraine, it's all debt to Ukraine. No one cares for the people, everyone wants to sell them weapons, even Canada.
Why the hell would you say something like that without a shred of proof?
Especially since what he said IS true.
 

Ludak021

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Why the hell would you say something like that without a shred of proof?
Especially since what he said IS true.
Links.
You have none.

here I'll start:

edit: "The Russian Defence Ministry says the Moskva was badly damaged by a fire and sank in a storm as it was being towed to port. It previously said"
this is news to me, feel free to roast me.

Note that it is you people making extraordinary claims and providing zero evidence.
What I wrote is based on facts that I can google anytime, but I am not going to do it more for you, unless I get payed to provide you that service. Otherwise, you can google yourself or keep being misinformed.

edit: in the end, do you think Zelenski and Ukraine can defeat the largest country in the world? Seriously?
 
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scavengerspc

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Links.
You have none.

here I'll start:

edit: "The Russian Defence Ministry says the Moskva was badly damaged by a fire and sank in a storm as it was being towed to port. It previously said"
this is news to me, feel free to roast me.

Note that it is you people making extraordinary claims and providing zero evidence.
What I wrote is based on facts that I can google anytime, but I am not going to do it more for you, unless I get payed to provide you that service. Otherwise, you can google yourself or keep being misinformed.

edit: in the end, do you think Zelenski and Ukraine can defeat the largest country in the world? Seriously?
I'm tired of posting the same things over and over. Especially when its common knowledge. But for you, I suggest you should have checked to see if there were actually days after the article you posted. You know, the next day, next week, maybe? A lot has happened since April 14th.


Sources and citations are at the bottom, just like the Moskva, though you may be the first that needed them.

And the most pleasant part of the sinking?


Want more?
 
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Ludak021

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I'm tired of posting the same things over and over. Especially when its common knowledge. But for you, I suggest you should have checked to see if there were actually days after the article you posted. You know, the next day, next week, maybe? A lot has happened since April 14th.
Guradin had that ship sunk 14.04 after it was hit and there was fire. Ship sank later (also 14.04 ) after the soldiers and crew were evacuated (I don't trust Russian figures, or any other figures in an on going war. Gurdian predicted that ship will sink. Or they just wrote what they had, and then asserted something that has not even happened using their clairvoyant reporter, with gender studies degree. :p

Want more?
Yes.
Not on that ship, we know all that we can know.
maybe we can talk about UKR Army mining the sea around ports to stop ships coming in. Then they proceed to say "we have no foood, no this no that" and blame Russia. Russia didn't block their ports, they took their ports by force. UKR Army, to spite Russians went and mined the sea.
Kids killed by Russian army...give me a break. That's a professional army, like every professional army. They have their orders. If they told UKR that valid targets are ones that host command centers and military, and then UKR makes a command center in the school - who killed those children? Doesn't even matter, some outlet made that up, got it trending ofc and now lives as "fact" on it's own.

as I have said: it's foolish to have a mindset that thinks by US propping a lvl12 jokster to fight a lvl50 warlord leader of the largest country in the world with ALL resources (food, energy, medicine....military, second in the world, state of the art war machine) and is self sustainable even without exporting oil and gas they are still fine. Ukraine exports the lowest tier products (thats why they are poorer than Russia) like wheat and apples and has no modern weapons, army, and a an actor as chief in command. I don't see how UKR could possibly loose.

News and events aside I can tell you what is going to happen:
Ukraine will loose. No NATO, no EU, Biden, will help them. They will put them into more credit lines (that's the main objective for Washington, keeps Dollar strong and relevant) Zelensky is moving to...forgot which passport he got but he will be long gone by the time Ukrainian people start searching for him to prop him on a tree to hang there for a while
Russia will be weakened but will have won. They don't need that dumpster land, they already have theirs. Like US, they will take what they think they need, guard that and game over.
US - China war will start then over an island. Pick one, doesn't matter which, as long as one side is being helped by US weapons via credit line. Probably Tibetans will be armed and fighting (and dying) China. US and EU will support Tibet, extend the credit lines. No one will send their people there. Till the last Tibetan, Ukrainian etc.
All that I sleft is for loosing countries, devastated by war, to pay off all that "help" they got.

So, again, at least keep your expectations in check. Chances of Ukraine winning this is same chance Mexico has if US invaded them.
 
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