Sam Altman says it's "terrible" for RAM to sit inside PCs instead of data centers

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The big picture: The AI boom has siphoned most of the tech industry's RAM supply, driving up prices and making consumer electronics less affordable. Recent comments from Sam Altman, arguably the man most responsible for launching the boom, frame the situation as a conflict between cloud and local compute, and he clearly favors the cloud.

In an interview on the YouTube channel Cheeky Pint, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman argued that it's more efficient to direct the world's tightening supply of memory to AI data centers than to local devices. The comments drew immediate backlash as hardware prices continue to climb.

About 29 minutes in, Altman says it's "quite terrible" for DRAM to be locked inside consumer hardware, where it may be used only 5% of the time. Because data centers run their hardware almost constantly, he argues, they can push the global supply closer to full utilization.

Altman specifically mentioned PCs with local AI capabilities and open-source LLMs. Devices like Microsoft's Surface Laptop Ultra can ship with up to 128GB of unified RAM to support local AI workloads, including open-source models like DeepSeek, which OpenAI sees as competition.

However, given the AI boom's broader impact on consumer devices, Altman's claim could be seen as an attack on the very idea of owning hardware. Many fear that the companies driving the AI boom ultimately want owners to become renters of cloud services running on AI data centers.

The data center buildout has quintupled DRAM costs since last year, pushing consumer hardware prices to unaffordable highs. Game consoles are approaching the $1,000 mark, dragging sales downward. PC shipments have also dropped significantly this year for similar reasons, contributing to Intel's worst stock price collapse in decades.

Meanwhile, high-end graphics cards like Nvidia's RTX 5080 and 5090 seem to have disappeared from store shelves after reaching astronomical prices. Even cameras could become more expensive because of RAM shortages, according to Canon.

Memory makers disagree on how long shortages will last. SK Hynix estimates that current conditions will continue past 2030, while Micron recently claimed that humanoid robots could keep demand high if the AI bubble pops (which might already be happening).

Acer's CEO, however, accuses the memory makers of wanting to prolong the situation to maximize profits, and thinks prices could start sliding as soon as next year.

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These people make me sick. All they give a flying F*ck about is how much money they can put in there pocket.
My questions is what are they doing with all that data they collect on people, and why?
Don't tell me all these data centers are for the purpose of training A.I.
Thats a bunch a bullsh*t.
They just want to control people like we are sheep
 
There is a still a chance to get some prebuilt pc while slightly inflated prices will probably be cheaper than things to come. Especially when these cronies are circling back money amongst themselves back and forth. If you still need a pc This black November might be the last time we will see pricing for PCs at consumer friendlyish pricing.
 

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There is a still a chance to get some prebuilt pc while slightly inflated prices will probably be cheaper than things to come. Especially when these cronies are circling back money amongst themselves back and forth. If you still need a pc This black November might be the last time we will see pricing for PCs at consumer friendlyish pricing.
This is a big reason why I finally ordered my 9070xt. If the bubble popped today it would still take several months for prices to normalize. I have a feeling hardware prices are going to continue to rise over the next several months

The chain from ordering parts, Manufacturing a product and putting it on store shelves takes months and people are manufacturing stuff today at inflated prices that could take weeks or months to end up on shelves. Then we have the stuff on shelves already made at higher prices that OEMs and retailers need to make their money back on.

I do have a feeling that things will be a lot better this time next year so I'm going to just going enjoy my layoff time this winter hermiting in front of my computer with my new 9070xt. Best part of blue collar work is I basically get a 3 month paid vacation every year.
 
This is a big reason why I finally ordered my 9070xt. If the bubble popped today it would still take several months for prices to normalize. I have a feeling hardware prices are going to continue to rise over the next several months

The chain from ordering parts, Manufacturing a product and putting it on store shelves takes months and people are manufacturing stuff today at inflated prices that could take weeks or months to end up on shelves. Then we have the stuff on shelves already made at higher prices that OEMs and retailers need to make their money back on.

I do have a feeling that things will be a lot better this time next year so I'm going to just going enjoy my layoff time this winter hermiting in front of my computer with my new 9070xt. Best part of blue collar work is I basically get a 3 month paid vacation every year.
Enjoy. While most of us want the ai bubble to burst unfortunately the elephant in the room some overlook is China's demand for hardware. They unlike the west do not have a data center infrastructure problem. If we look at Microcenter's approach to smuggling and the aftermath that came after consumers had to sign a form with identification, caused sales to drop allegedly.
We are also heading into the holiday season.
Last but not least there are some crypto coins that are becoming more profitable lately as well. Imagine hitting with another crypto mining boom in this shyte show?
Anyone thinking of selling old hardware at a profit, just be careful of potential fraudsters on the shipping and buying end as well.
 
Ofcourse he's going to say that, who really cares? They're gonna keep buying up all the hardware they can, I have my RAM, not going to give it away.

"Many fear that the companies driving the AI boom ultimately want owners to become renters of cloud services running on AI data centers."

This isn't anything new. I have my hardware, I pirate whatever software I need, I bought 1 game this year that I play almost daily. Don't give a **** about anything else.
 
Enjoy. While most of us want the ai bubble to burst unfortunately the elephant in the room some overlook is China's demand for hardware. They unlike the west do not have a data center infrastructure problem. If we look at Microcenter's approach to smuggling and the aftermath that came after consumers had to sign a form with identification, caused sales to drop allegedly.
We are also heading into the holiday season.
Last but not least there are some crypto coins that are becoming more profitable lately as well. Imagine hitting with another crypto mining boom in this shyte show?
Anyone thinking of selling old hardware at a profit, just be careful of potential fraudsters on the shipping and buying end as well.
Thanks

China is a complicated issue because they have almost all of the infrastructure to make their own chips from start to finish. Mines, refineries, factories and they're even making some pretty big pushes into making their own EUV machines. The interesting thing about AI and datacenters is that the limiting factory is mostly just memory speed and size, which they have CXMT for that. I don't think the West will see much of an impact from China. Most of our tech is made and packaged in South Korea and Taiwan.

I'm not going to go as far as saying you're wrong, but I don't Chinese demand for tech will have as big of an impact on western supply as some might assume
 
Ofcourse he's going to say that, who really cares? They're gonna keep buying up all the hardware they can, I have my RAM, not going to give it away.

"Many fear that the companies driving the AI boom ultimately want owners to become renters of cloud services running on AI data centers."

This isn't anything new. I have my hardware, I pirate whatever software I need, I bought 1 game this year that I play almost daily. Don't give a **** about anything else.
True but renting hardware is also becoming more expensive to run. Hardware is becoming more expensive, networking, security, local backlash pressure etc etc. Currently a prebuilt system long term is more cost effective, cheaper, (lower latency for gaming/ better image quality and no artifacts ) and potentially infinite use until hardware dies. Compared to cloud compute services are becoming more expensive every month/ quarter/year, with added capped allowance, lower bit rate ( for gaming and added of advertising). Also if the data centers compute is being demanded by another monopoly due to the lack of data centers being built then the consumers will also have to compete with the cloud computing. That's why there is such a rush to build these things.
A hybrid model is even currently more cost effective where you have the minimum of what you need and just use the cheapest subscription model to offset your needs imo.
 
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